Fire/EMS/ERs/disasters, etc.

[O Really]

Definition of "act of god."

Didn't think of that. But that would explain why all the prayers for rain or stopping winds aren't working.

[O Really]

There's 1700 fire trucks and thousands of firefighters from 10 different states plus units from Mexico and Canada, and they're still not even keeping up. Somebody explain how anybody could be "prepared" for this.

[GoCubsGo]

There's 1700 fire trucks and thousands of firefighters from 10 different states plus units from Mexico and Canada, and they're still not even keeping up. Somebody explain how anybody could be "prepared" for this.

Trump said they needed to turn the water on from San Francisco to take care of it.

Oh, and they're not very bright.

Dean Cain predicts California wildfire catastrophe will change how Hollywood votes

Cain placed the blame squarely on Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom.

"You screwed up, Gavin Newsom. You screwed up," he said. "There was plenty of water. Last year was record rainfall or the year before, record rainfall. Snowmelt, reservoir the water."

[GoCubsGo]

Wonder why they don't have more hydrants to put these out.

Thx Newsome.

[Vrede too]

Definition of "act of god."

Didn't think of that. But that would explain why all the prayers for rain or stopping winds aren't working.

It is written - 'Babylon shall be cleansed by fire.'

[Vrede too]

There's 1700 fire trucks and thousands of firefighters from 10 different states plus units from Mexico and Canada, and they're still not even keeping up. Somebody explain how anybody could be "prepared" for this.

One fire expert: There's not a city hydrant system in the world that could have stopped these blazes. Grow up and admit, cons.

Things that can help during the rebuilding and beyond:
AGW prevention and mitigation
Fire-resistant construction
Home/business water pipes that self-seal rather than bleeding pressure away, and/or the ability to cut off neighborhoods remotely
Fire-resistant development (firebreaks, access and egress). Eminent domain as needed
Drought-resistant landscaping
Brush clearing

[Vrede too]

It's almost like it's coordinated - RepuQs casting about for dubious and dumb reasons to blame Dems when the significant contribution of AGW, which RWers love, is undeniable.

If only they were that smart.

GOP Rep Flamed for Call to Halt California Fire Aid As State Burns
HEARTLESS
Congressman Warren Davidson claimed funds should be withheld until the Golden State changes forestry management policies.

Like an Ohio pol has any clue about California forest management. Plus, a huge chunk of California forests are federal, not state. Duh. For example, Eaton Canyon, origin of the fire that has wiped out much of Altadena, is in the Angeles National Forest:
https://mapcarta.com/Eaton_Canyon_Natur ... r_R7448394
I'll bet that Warren Davidson has never introduced any forestry bills. He doesn't sit on any environment or disaster related committees.

... “I swear to god next time Ohio has a disaster I will fight tooth and nail to make sure our politicians don’t vote to give you a dime. Anti-American POS,” one user wrote on the platform.

Great minds:

Another chimed in, “Republicans are really trying to blame everything except addressing the giant-sized elephant in the room called climate change.”...

[Vrede too]

... Their homes were their generational wealth. Now, their insurance, if they have any, is.

First, they lost their home insurance. Then, L.A. fires consumed their homes

Then, there are questions over the ability of private and the state insurance to cover such a massive disaster.

... Neither could he get onto the California FAIR Plan, which provides fewer benefits, because he said he would have to cut down 10 trees around his roof line to lower the fire risk — something else the 55-year-old personal assistant found too costly to manage.

... FAIR Plan's website says its claims exposure is nearly $6 billion in Pacific Palisades alone.

"The situation has been a train wreck coming down the track for a while," said Rick Dinger, president of Crescenta Valley Insurance, an independent brokerage in Glendale....

Firefighter Shuts Down Elon Musk to His Face
Extinguished.

Last night in a bizarre press-conference-for-one, a member of the LA County Fire Command Team schooled Tesla CEO Elon Musk in the basic physics of water pressure — and shut down his racist assertion that municipal diversity efforts are somehow to blame for the fires raging in California....

[Vrede too]

"Like other large international insurance companies, [Lloyd's] is bracing for an increase in weather disasters related to global warming."
-- Lord Peter Levene, board chair of Lloyd's of London, 2004

[Vrede too]

GOP Rep Flamed for Call to Halt California Fire Aid As State Burns
HEARTLESS
Congressman Warren Davidson claimed funds should be withheld until the Golden State changes forestry management policies.


Great minds:

Another chimed in, “Republicans are really trying to blame everything except addressing the giant-sized elephant in the room called climate change.”...

CTE-ravaged Tommy Potatotown, too.

Tuberville says California doesn’t ‘deserve’ funding after wildfires unless it makes ‘some changes’

Pols representing hurricane and tornado magnets like AL should be careful about making aid partisan and conditional. Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) is also piling on. Soulless morons.

[GoCubsGo]

Why do they always seem to overlook that it's primarily national forests that are burning?

[Vrede too]

Why do they always seem to overlook that it's primarily national forests that are burning?

It's all about partisanship, not anything resembling patriotism or honest accountability.
I believe:

The Palisades Fire began on state park land or on nearby private land. It burned in several state parks, the Santa Monica Mountains National Recreation Area, and a huge area of private land.

The Eaton Fire originated on or near the Angeles National Forest. It burned a huge area in Altadena. I'm not sure if any state lands are involved.

Another RWer running away from the AGW cause is this Stepford Podcaster:

Megyn Kelly Melts Down Over Women Firefighters in Bonkers Rant
UNHINGED
“I believe I speak for all females in Los Angeles when I say we want a strong man to rescue us,” Kelly said.

... Though Crowley, Larson and Brown are the only women on the LAFD’s 14-person leadership team, they’ve become symbolic to critics who believe the department is focusing more on diversity than fire fighting....

No one who has risen to the leadership team of a huge FD is out there rescuing anyone, moron.

[Vrede too]

None of this is random chaos and stupidity. It's very deliberate and utterly shameful.

Donald Trump’s Disaster-Hijacking Playbook Exposed By Expert On Right-Wing Media
Nicole Hemmer also explored the potent cocktail — involving the president-elect — that means "everything just feels worse all the time."

Nicole Hemmer — an expert on conservative and right-wing media, and the effect they have had on American politics — this week explained Donald Trump’s penchant for whipping up anger and causing division amid tragedies and disasters.

“It definitely is the case that this is something Trump does, right?” Hemmer, an associate professor of history at Vanderbilt University, asked The New Republic’s Greg Sargent in the latest episode of his podcast, “The Daily Blast,” which was released Thursday....

Hemmer told Sargent:

You and I grew up in a period where we had the Oklahoma City bombing, the Columbine shootings, so many different natural disasters. And they have been these moments when people found a kind of common humanity. I don’t want to paint too rosy a picture of it, but I do think that there’s something substantially different about entering that moment and saying, ‘Actually, the person responsible for your problems are my political enemies, and instead of focusing on rebuilding, you should focus on hating them.’

Sargent suggested it was part of a “full-on right-wing MAGA effort to degrade public life” with everything “about seizing on every opportunity to spread deranged conspiracy theories” and “turn people against each other.”...

Truth.

‘What The F**k Is Wrong With You?’: Jon Stewart Burns GOPers Over Ugliest New Hypocrisy
The “Daily Show” host tore into Republican lawmakers for demanding conditions on aid to fire-ravaged portions of California.

Great minds . . . :

“Really, senator from Alabama? The state near the bottom in math, reading and test scores? Next time you get hit by a fucking hurricane, why don’t we have a little parent-teacher conference to see that if you got your scores up you would get the money. Or actually, let’s not do it because you’ll get the money anyway because we’re not fucking psychos. That is psychotic. There’s something wrong with you.”

[Vrede too]

super scooper palisades fire

That's incredible - two scoops and drops from a single videoing position!

[Vrede too]

The Los Angeles landmarks from film, TV damaged by wildfires

There will be more. For example, how often have Malibu beach homes appeared on the screen? But, singling out addresses and history is difficult in that line of rubble right now.

[Vrede too]

Out of the frying pan, into the mud:

Home that survived Palisades fire is split in half by landslide. 'This is devastating'


A Los Angeles Department of Water and Power worker inspects a Pacific Palisades home that survived the Palisades fire, only to be destroyed in a landslide.

... Landslides can be triggered by rainfall — or, in this case, water from the lengthy firefight — saturating weak or loose soil, causing it to slide downhill....

Bummer.

Silver lining, perhaps no residents:

... The nearly 1,000-square-foot house was listed for rent on Zillow last year...

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Gavin Newsom

Openly shilling for scammers and bottom feeder land speculators is a weird play -- even for you, Ted.

Our Executive Order doesn’t prevent anyone from selling their property.

It prohibits scammers from making unsolicited offers to buy property for pennies on the dollar.

Article

STFU, Teddy, Texas has problems galore and Abbott is the worst governor in the country (tied with Fascist DerSantis).

[GoCubsGo]

So, step-bro's house did survive but they think it could be up to two years before they can move back in from smoke and environmental damage from all the toxins that burned in the area.

Obviously, widespread urban fires have many more toxic components than a forest fire.

[Vrede too]

So, step-bro's house did survive but they think it could be up to two years before they can move back in from smoke and environmental damage from all the toxins that burned in the area.

Obviously, widespread urban fires have many more toxic components than a forest fire.

That sucks to be homeless for so long, regardless.

A dozen new fires in parts of Los Angeles, Riverside and San Diego counties. Winds over 50 mph. Multiple schools plus tens of thousands of residents evacuated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 861957007/

Largest, Hughes Fire: 8,096 Acres, Containment 0%
https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2025/1/22/hughes-fire
Zoom out for wind map

[GoCubsGo]

So, step-bro's house did survive but they think it could be up to two years before they can move back in from smoke and environmental damage from all the toxins that burned in the area.

Obviously, widespread urban fires have many more toxic components than a forest fire.

That sucks to be homeless for so long, regardless.

A dozen new fires in parts of Los Angeles, Riverside and San Diego counties. Winds over 50 mph. Multiple schools plus tens of thousands of residents evacuated.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 861957007/

Largest, Hughes Fire: 8,096 Acres, Containment 0%
https://www.fire.ca.gov/incidents/2025/1/22/hughes-fire
Zoom out for wind map

Blew up to 5,000 acres in an hour.