The influence of politics

[Jasmine]

This is about musical artists, Hollywood entertainers, athletes, etc.

Question: Does a person’s politics impact your personal enjoyment or support of that person?

For me, the answer is no.

For example, John Mellencamp is a die-hard liberal. But I don’t let that affect my enjoyment of his music. I have almost all of his albums.

In my view, if you “boycott” a person because of his politics, you’re basically denying yourself the talents of roughly half of your entertainment options.

[GoCubsGo]

Hate to say it, but yeah.

Ain't listening to any Ted Nugent, done with Eric Clapton and never listened to Kid Rock.

Also done with Carrie Underwood.

[O Really]

Most of the time I don't care, and the less I know about a person the less I would care if I find out about their politics. But if I'm familiar with them in other aspects of their lives, then many things, including politics, would affect my view of them as a person. And if I think póorly of them as a person I'm likely to like their product less. I'm not into boycotts per se, though. Always seemed like a futile effort that includes cutting off noses.

[Jasmine]

Hate to say it, but yeah.

Ain't listening to any Ted Nugent, done with Eric Clapton and never listened to Kid Rock.

Also done with Carrie Underwood.

What about Clint Eastwood and Sylvester Stallone?

Ted Nugent’s and mine are pretty aligned, but I wouldn’t buy his music if it were the last CD on earth. His stuff is just noise!

Liberal performers that I regularly patronize: Madonna, Samuel L. Jackson, Bruce Springsteen, Lea Salonga, LeBron James, Steph Curry, etc.

[Jasmine]

Most of the time I don't care, and the less I know about a person the less I would care if I find out about their politics. But if I'm familiar with them in other aspects of their lives, then many things, including politics, would affect my view of them as a person. And if I think póorly of them as a person I'm likely to like their product less. I'm not into boycotts per se, though. Always seemed like a futile effort that includes cutting off noses.

[Vrede too]

Hate to say it, but yeah.

Ain't listening to any Ted Nugent,

Great minds . . . First one I thought of.

done with Eric Clapton and never listened to Kid Rock.

Also done with Carrie Underwood.

No interest in Ye, Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer , or Tim Allen, either.
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[GoCubsGo]

By and large they're B List wannabes, so I pay little attention to begin with.

[GoCubsGo]

Ted Nugent’s and mine are pretty aligned....

Seriously?
Plenty more at the link.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Politics

Nugent's views have been considered racist by some.[109][110][111][112] In an interview in 1990, a few months after the release of Nelson Mandela during the negotiations to end apartheid in South Africa, Nugent stated, "apartheid isn't that cut-and-dry. All men are not created equal." He described black South Africans as "a different breed of man" who "still put bones in their noses, they still walk around naked, they wipe their butts with their hands".[113][114]

In November 2008, coinciding with the election of Barack Obama as America's first black president, Nugent appeared on The Political Cesspool, a white nationalist radio show.[115] In 2012, he stated, "I’m beginning to wonder if it would have been best had the South won the Civil War."[116]

Nugent is also a staunch critic of Black Lives Matter, stating "Black Lives [Matter] don't give a shit about Black lives" and that they are a "terrorist organization".[117][118]

During an interview with Piers Morgan in 2011, Nugent was asked if he would mind if one of his children came out as gay, saying "Not at all ... I'm repulsed at the concept of man-on-man sex, I think it's against nature. I think it's strange as hell, but if that's what you are, I love you. I'm not going to judge another's morals. I say live and let live. I have friends that are gay."[119][120

[Vrede too]

What about Clint Eastwood and Sylvester Stallone?

Clint Eastwood backed off of his GQP support. Plus, he makes great movies with little evidence of con leanings.

Never was a Sylvester Stallone fan, anyhow.

Ted Nugent’s and mine are pretty aligned

Note: GoCubsGo beat me to it. Great (lefty) minds . . .

Teddy:
Supports animal cruelty
Is hardcore racist
Supported apartheid
Is an AGW denier
Defends mountaintop removal coal mining
Hates wolves
Is an Islamophobe
Wanted Iraq nuked
Is a hardcore ammosexual and wants the 1A suspended for gun control advocates so they can be jailed
Is antisemitic
Is an anti-vaxxer and had denied that the COVID-19 pandemic was real . . . until it almost killed him, hah
Is misogynistic
Is a MAGAt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Politics



Very revealing, Jasmine, very.

[O Really]

To the extent it's possible to separate a performer's art from their politics or other behaviour, I'll usually do it. But some things aren't so easily ignored or forgiven. DUI? Okayfine - bad irresponsible behaviour, but play on. Cheating? Despicable, but it happens. Domestic violence? Nope. Out of my life. Voted Republican all their life? Same as DUI/cheating and can be overlooked. Real Trump supporter? Nope. Here's why: there's a difference in what a person does and what they are.

The entire question reminds me of MilliVanilli. For anybody who doesn't remember, or might have been to young at the time, Milli Vanilli was a couple of pretty faces that fronted studio musicians' music. Their music was popular until it was discovered that they didn't sing it, at which point they were summarily canceled, shamed, shunned, and trashed. How they were different from the early Monkees is unclear, but for some reason the song you really liked this morning is no longer tolerable once you find the pretty faces didn't sing it.

[bannination]

Ted Nugent can kiss my ass.

[O Really]

There's a big difference in making bad political choices and being a bad person.

[neoplacebo]

I could never marry someone like Nancy Mace or Lauren Boebert. In each case, I'd rather be involved in a car wreck. As far as actors and musicians go, I still like "Layla" even though Clapton turned out to be a nutjob. I also still like watching Steven Seagall's movies even though he's a big bore nutjob. Always liked David Carradine with no regard to his rolitics.

[O Really]

Some of the same people who say it's petty to shun an actor/singer because of their politics have no trouble shunning Bill Cosby for his sexual attacks. Seems it's just a matter of where one's tipping point is.

[Jasmine]

Some of the same people who say it's petty to shun an actor/singer because of their politics have no trouble shunning Bill Cosby for his sexual attacks. Seems it's just a matter of where one's tipping point is.

I think the difference is that Cosby committed horrible crimes. Political opinions are just that - opinions.

[O Really]

Some of the same people who say it's petty to shun an actor/singer because of their politics have no trouble shunning Bill Cosby for his sexual attacks. Seems it's just a matter of where one's tipping point is.

I think the difference is that Cosby committed horrible crimes. Political opinions are just that - opinions.

Sure, but opinions can lead to actions. And if you're a lawyer in California, a person's opinion that California lawyers should all be shot isn't benign.

[Jasmine]

Some of the same people who say it's petty to shun an actor/singer because of their politics have no trouble shunning Bill Cosby for his sexual attacks. Seems it's just a matter of where one's tipping point is.

I think the difference is that Cosby committed horrible crimes. Political opinions are just that - opinions.

Sure, but opinions can lead to actions. And if you're a lawyer in California, a person's opinion that California lawyers should all be shot isn't benign.

I disagree. You can say that all lawyers should be shot. Those are just words.

When Madonna talked about blowing up the White House, was that crossing the line?

When Maxine Waters encoreged protestors to get more confrontational, was that crossing the line?

I don’t think so. In the end, it’s just words.

[O Really]

But surely I can be forgiven for not willing to be friends with someone whose opinion is that all lawyers should be shot? And BTW, threats are not protected speech.

[Jasmine]

But surely I can be forgiven for not willing to be friends with someone whose opinion is that all lawyers should be shot? And BTW, threats are not protected speech.

You don’t need to be forgiven. You should be able to pick your friends, and pick who you like and don’t like.