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In addition to the oft-quoted Nazis, Trump and trumpsters are also showing signs that somebody must have read Mao, or at least the Cliff's Notes.
In May 1966, with the help of the Cultural Revolution Group, Mao launched the Revolution and said that bourgeois elements had infiltrated the government and society with the aim of restoring capitalism. Mao called on young people to bombard the headquarters, and proclaimed that "to rebel is justified". Mass upheaval began in Beijing with Red August in 1966. Many young people, mainly students, responded by forming cadres of Red Guards throughout the country. Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung became revered within his cult of personality. In 1967, emboldened radicals began seizing power from local governments and party branches, establishing new revolutionary committees in their place while smashing public security, procuratorate and judicial systems. These committees often split into rival factions, precipitating armed clashes among the radicals. After the fall of Lin Biao in 1971, the Gang of Four became influential in 1972, and the Revolution continued until Mao's death in 1976, soon followed by the arrest of the Gang of Four.
Now edit that slightly to bring up to date: "In January, 2020, with the help of the Proud Boys and other radical groups, Trump launched an attack and said that Deep State and Liberal Left elements had infiltrated government and society with the aim of enforcing "DEI" and liberal thought. Trump called on the militias to storm the Capitol, and proclaimed that 'saving the country is not illegal'. Many uneducated hordes responded by enlarging their militias and becoming more bold in their attacks on cultural norms. Quotations from Trump became revered within his cult of personality. In the early 20's, in places like Shasta County, CA and in Idaho, emboldened radicals, called "MAGAs", began seizing power from local governments and party branches, establishing new revolutionary committees in their place while smashing public security and judicial systems. The MAGA often spit among themselves allowing no deviance from their own rigid interpretation of "MAGA". ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution

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Perfectly normal.
Fox News host Jesse Watters: "We don't need friends. If we have to we will burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland. We’re big boys. We dropped a-bombs on Japan and now they are our ally"

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:50 am
Perfectly normal.

From Orwell:

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength."
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."
"Orthodoxy means not thinking—not needing to think. Orthodoxy is unconsciousness."

"Power is not a means; it is an end . . . not power over things, but over men. . . . In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. . . . There will be no loyalty, except loyalty toward the Party Trump. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother Trump. . .

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A fly in the 3rd term ointment.
Damn you twelfth amendment!

So that leaves him with changing the Constitution (ain't gonna happen) or far more likely just ignoring it probably using the argument that it applies only to felons, insurrectionists and what not, then let the Supremes decide.
The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:32 am
Many uneducated hordes responded by enlarging their militias and becoming more bold in their attacks on cultural norms.
You mean those that no longer tolerate liberal shit that's leftists norm. Just because a generation refuses to be influenced by liberal bullshit doesn't mean they have to continually tolerate it. I don't condone the violence that boiled over from enraged intolerance. The same can be said of the burning down of city blocks, riots, vandalism and stealing. Leftists loved that shit on a daily basis.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:50 am
Perfectly normal.
Fox News host Jesse Watters: "We don't need friends. If we have to we will burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland. We’re big boys. We dropped a-bombs on Japan and now they are our ally"
https://bsky.app/profile/jayinkyiv.bsky ... itqaqea22e
If Danish territory is attacked can Denmark invoke NATO? Would the US have to be expelled from NATO first?
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:23 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:50 am
Perfectly normal.
Fox News host Jesse Watters: "We don't need friends. If we have to we will burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland. We’re big boys. We dropped a-bombs on Japan and now they are our ally"
https://bsky.app/profile/jayinkyiv.bsky ... itqaqea22e
If Danish territory is attacked can Denmark invoke NATO? Would the US have to be expelled from NATO first?
Good questions.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:23 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 11:50 am
Perfectly normal.
Fox News host Jesse Watters: "We don't need friends. If we have to we will burn down a few bridges with Denmark to take Greenland. We’re big boys. We dropped a-bombs on Japan and now they are our ally"
https://bsky.app/profile/jayinkyiv.bsky ... itqaqea22e
If Danish territory is attacked can Denmark invoke NATO? Would the US have to be expelled from NATO first?
I was wondering about that just today, knowing Denmark is a NATO member. But then I thought that since Greenland is technically independent from Denmark, my head started to go wiggy so i had to rush to avail myself of what are generally referred to as dangerous and illegal substances just to get a grip on things. I never did decide what might happen on the Greenland ala Denmark thing.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:16 pm
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If Danish territory is attacked can Denmark invoke NATO? Would the US have to be expelled from NATO first?
I was wondering about that just today, knowing Denmark is a NATO member. But then I thought that since Greenland is technically independent from Denmark, my head started to go wiggy so i had to rush to avail myself of what are generally referred to as dangerous and illegal substances just to get a grip on things. I never did decide what might happen on the Greenland ala Denmark thing.
Greenland is autonomous, not independent yet. If it does gain independence I suppose it might try to join NATO. I hope this helped you recover from wiggy.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:42 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 8:16 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 31, 2025 4:23 pm
If Danish territory is attacked can Denmark invoke NATO? Would the US have to be expelled from NATO first?
I was wondering about that just today, knowing Denmark is a NATO member. But then I thought that since Greenland is technically independent from Denmark, my head started to go wiggy so i had to rush to avail myself of what are generally referred to as dangerous and illegal substances just to get a grip on things. I never did decide what might happen on the Greenland ala Denmark thing.
Greenland is autonomous, not independent yet. If it does gain independence I suppose it might try to join NATO. I hope this helped you recover from wiggy.
God hell! That's what happened....I got mixed up with autonomous, independent, and wasted. What ended up happening was that I became independently wasted and anonymous realizing the only connection I have with Denmark is my experience with Danish ham and the Van Morrison song "Listen to the Lion" which has this lyric...."and we sailed and we sailed and we sailed, away from Denmark way up to Caledonia..." and that about covers it.

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Hey everyone, especially supsale, remember how we had a conversation the other week about why due process is important, and why it's bad when it's ignored?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... fH-zT91Z90

An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison
The Trump administration says it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.


The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.

...

But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, was deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring him back now that Abrego Garcia is in Salvadoran custody

...

If the government wants to deport someone with protected status, the standard course would be to reopen the case and introduce new evidence arguing for deportation. The deportation of a protected status holder has even stunned some government attorneys I’ve been in touch with who are tracking the case, who declined to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press. “What. The. Fuck,” one texted me.
This guy was here legally. Complied with immigration rules, had protected legal status. Sent to prison in El Salvador. He didn't do anything wrong.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:32 am
Hey everyone, especially supsale, remember how we had a conversation the other week about why due process is important, and why it's bad when it's ignored?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... fH-zT91Z90

An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison
The Trump administration says it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.


The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.

...

But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, was deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring him back now that Abrego Garcia is in Salvadoran custody

...

If the government wants to deport someone with protected status, the standard course would be to reopen the case and introduce new evidence arguing for deportation. The deportation of a protected status holder has even stunned some government attorneys I’ve been in touch with who are tracking the case, who declined to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press. “What. The. Fuck,” one texted me.
If this true then he should be brought back. I am sure the El Salvadoran government could be convinced to release the guy.

This guy was here legally. Complied with immigration rules, had protected legal status. Sent to prison in El Salvador. He didn't do anything wrong.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:32 am
Hey everyone, especially supsale, remember how we had a conversation the other week about why due process is important, and why it's bad when it's ignored?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... on/682254/

An ‘Administrative Error’ Sends a Maryland Father to a Salvadoran Prison
The Trump administration says it mistakenly deported an immigrant with protected status but that courts are powerless to order his return.

The Trump administration acknowledged in a court filing Monday that it had grabbed a Maryland father with protected legal status and mistakenly deported him to El Salvador, but said that U.S. courts lack jurisdiction to order his return from the megaprison where he’s now locked up.

...

But in Monday’s court filing, attorneys for the government admitted that the Salvadoran man, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, was deported accidentally. “Although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abrego Garcia was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error,” the government told the court. Trump lawyers said the court has no ability to bring him back now that Abrego Garcia is in Salvadoran custody

...

If the government wants to deport someone with protected status, the standard course would be to reopen the case and introduce new evidence arguing for deportation. The deportation of a protected status holder has even stunned some government attorneys I’ve been in touch with who are tracking the case, who declined to be named because they weren’t authorized to speak to the press. “What. The. Fuck,” one texted me.
This guy was here legally. Complied with immigration rules, had protected legal status. Sent to prison in El Salvador. He didn't do anything wrong.
DoJ is saying they don't know how to get him back :wtf: . Even if one supports the mass deportations without due process a competent admin would have figured out how to correct the inevitable mistakes ahead of time. But noooo, Gnome, InHoman and Pam Bondage are running the show.

Ftr, Abrego Garcia lived in and was arrested in College Park, MD, near my childhood home. He is a hominy. :(
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Typical twist of the news by a leftist news outlet. If one reads the article it is stated the planning of the event of the Army's 250th anniversary began last year. This was even before the election.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:32 pm
Jesus.

Just what the country needs. :lol:
Trump planning military parade through DC for 79th birthday

Where's DOGE. We've got some government waste right here.

Looks like there were some times in the past we've had military parades. For example, the end of the Gulf war. The price tag was nowhere near what's being proposed for this one though. Even adjusted. Seems like it's a waste, especially so after the dipshit playing president has been claiming he wants to cut government expenses

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:23 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:32 pm
Jesus.

Just what the country needs. :lol:
Trump planning military parade through DC for 79th birthday

Where's DOGE. We've got some government waste right here.

Looks like there were some times in the past we've had military parades. For example, the end of the Gulf war. The price tag was nowhere near what's being proposed for this one though. Even adjusted. Seems like it's a waste, especially so after the dipshit playing president has been claiming he wants to cut government expenses
I do not disagree this is a luxury that could be done without.

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 7:23 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Apr 07, 2025 9:32 pm
Jesus.

Just what the country needs. :lol:
Trump planning military parade through DC for 79th birthday
Where's DOGE. We've got some government waste right here.

Looks like there were some times in the past we've had military parades. For example, the end of the Gulf war. The price tag was nowhere near what's being proposed for this one though. Even adjusted. Seems like it's a waste, especially so after the dipshit playing president has been claiming he wants to cut government expenses
Is it really "a waste" if it looks North Korean? :puke-left:
... President Trump in his first term in 2018 ordered the Pentagon to plan a large military parade after he visited Paris and was inspired by a French Bastille Day event.

“We’re going to have to try to top it,” he reportedly told French President Emmanuel Macron.

But that event, set for Nov. 10, was canceled after defense officials quoted the price tag at $92 million and were slow to plan it, citing more pressing issues. The event also was heavily criticized both publicly and in private within the administration.

Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) at the time called the military parade plans a “fantastic waste of money to amuse the president.”
:---P
And Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), a staunch Trump backer, warned against treating the parade as a “Soviet-style” display of military might....
:---P :---P

Fascism can happen to anyone:
Idaho GOP Lawmaker claims ICE raid followed political targeting
Rep. Mickelsen says she became the target of immigration raids after being politically targeted by members of her own party for opposing "far-right extremism."


... Idaho Representative Stephanie Mickelsen (R), said, "I think a lot of it has to do with I've been one of the few that have stood up to the to the far right extremism."

Because of that, she believes that she has had a pretty big target on her back for the last several years. Rep. Mickelsen was censured and told by her local legislative GOP committee that she could no longer run as a Republican....
Cancel culture.
Mickelsen said ICE raised her business shortly after Trump's second inauguration, after a January 21 social media post made by Ada County GOP Vice Chairman Ryan Spoon.

"He started targeting me on Tuesday, and they were there by Friday," Mickelsen said....
Rapid response Brown Shirts.
Liar, as usual.
... For Mickelsen, her biggest worry is not her family business but the chilling effect it has had on her ability to do her other job, like when a similar immigration bill came back this session.

"This year? I didn't stand up and talk about it," Mickelsen said. "I felt like that. I didn't need to make myself and my family and our businesses a bigger target than it needed to be, and so I simply stayed quiet on the issue."

... Mickelsen said legislators need to start standing up and saying this is enough....
RepuQs? Hah.
Mickelsen and her family said they would never knowingly employ an undocumented worker, and they follow all federal and state laws to be in compliance.

Yet, Mickelsen voted in favor of that immigration bill during the last session.
:roll: Doesn't leave her much room to gripe.
... As for Spoon, who has made no secret of wanting to make Idaho unbearable for anyone who does not align with his politics, even though he only moved here six years ago, he refused to speak with us about this story.
Coward, typical extreme RWer.

Yeah, fascism is here.
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Supsalemgr wrote:
Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:15 am
Typical twist of the news by a leftist news outlet. If one reads the article it is stated the planning of the event of the Army's 250th anniversary began last year. This was even before the election.
So glad the Army didn't entertain the idea of having a gay disco group perform as a recruiting tool.

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U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth ordered 381 books to be removed from the Nimitz Library at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.

The books removed contained content addressing diversity, gender, and race including Maya Angelou‘s ‘I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings,’ the 1970 autobiographical coming-of-age story of a young Black girl in Alabama which addresses identity, rape, racism, and literacy....
Of course they do, White supremacy in action.
A lesser known academic book also removed by the Defense Department is the 2021 non-fiction book Rich Thanks to Racism: How the Ultra Wealthy Profit from Racial Injustice.

According to the book’s description, the author, civil rights lawyer Jim Freeman, “uncovers billions of dollars in aligned investments by Bill Gates, Charles Koch, Mark Zuckerberg, and a handful of other billionaires that are dismantling public school systems across the United States.”

Of course it was, White oligarchy in action.

Thank you for your future service, midshipmen. We appreciate that you are willing to risk your lives to defend freedom, but Nanny Pete is still going to decide what you're allowed to read. Deal with it.
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