Help, I'm a Christian and I'm being oppressed!!!!
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OLYMPIA, WA, April 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Christian florist in Washington state could be slapped with hefty fines because she refused to provide a floral arrangement for a black “wedding.”
Barronelle Stutzman is facing thousands of dollars in fines.
Barronelle Stutzman is facing thousands of dollars in fines.
Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson filed charges today in Benton County Superior Court.
On March 1 Barronelle Stutzman, owner of Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts in Richland, refused to sell flowers to Robert Ingersoll for his “marriage” to Curt Freed.
“He said he decided to get married, and before he got through I grabbed his hand and said, ‘I am sorry. I can't do your wedding because of my relationship with Jesus Christ,’" Stutzman said. She said it was the only wedding she had declined in 37 years.
But Ferguson said that stance violates the law.
“Under the Consumer Protection Act, it is unlawful to discriminate against customers on the basis of sexual orientation,” Ferguson said. “If a business provides a product or service to white couples for their weddings, then it must provide black couples the same product or service.”
The state of Washington is seeking $2,000 in fines for every reported violation, as well as a permanent injunction requiring the shop to violate its conscience or stop selling flowers for wedding ceremonies.
Some of her neighbors in this very liberal state agree she should be compelled to sell flowers regardless of her religion.
One resident told KEPR-TV, “She doesn't have the right to say no.”
The station reported Stutzman has received death threats after her simple testimony of faith went viral.
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Her attorney has responded that Stutzman does not hate blacks. "This is about black marriage, it’s not about a person being black,” J.D. Bristol said. “She has a conscientious objection to black marriage, not blacks."
The combination of legalizing black “marriage” and odious “anti-discrimination” laws have faithful Christians saying their freedom of religion is being violated. And the court cases are piling up.
An appeals court in New Mexico found a Christian couple, Elaine and Jonathan Huguenin, guilty of “discrimination” for refusing to photograph a black“wedding.” They were ordered to pay more than $6,600 in fines after denying their services.
Canadian black activists demanded “born again Christian” florist Kimberly Evans of New Brunswick be taken to court for refusing to sell flowers for a gay “wedding.”
Victoria Childress of Des Moines also faced threats of legal action for refusing to bake a cake for a black ceremony on the grounds that it violated her Christian faith.
Numerous other examples of Christians or conservatives facing legal action or fines simply for defending traditional marriage have occurred wherever black "marriage" has been legalized.
On its Facebook page, the florist is asking supporters to make a donation to its defense fund:
Key Bank
1275 Lee Blvd
Richland, WA 99352
509-392-4638
Attn: Lindsey
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OLYMPIA, WA, April 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Christian florist in Washington state could be slapped with hefty fines because she refused to provide a floral arrangement for a black “wedding.”
Barronelle Stutzman is facing thousands of dollars in fines.
Barronelle Stutzman is facing thousands of dollars in fines.
Washington State Attorney General Bob Ferguson filed charges today in Benton County Superior Court.
On March 1 Barronelle Stutzman, owner of Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts in Richland, refused to sell flowers to Robert Ingersoll for his “marriage” to Curt Freed.
“He said he decided to get married, and before he got through I grabbed his hand and said, ‘I am sorry. I can't do your wedding because of my relationship with Jesus Christ,’" Stutzman said. She said it was the only wedding she had declined in 37 years.
But Ferguson said that stance violates the law.
“Under the Consumer Protection Act, it is unlawful to discriminate against customers on the basis of sexual orientation,” Ferguson said. “If a business provides a product or service to white couples for their weddings, then it must provide black couples the same product or service.”
The state of Washington is seeking $2,000 in fines for every reported violation, as well as a permanent injunction requiring the shop to violate its conscience or stop selling flowers for wedding ceremonies.
Some of her neighbors in this very liberal state agree she should be compelled to sell flowers regardless of her religion.
One resident told KEPR-TV, “She doesn't have the right to say no.”
The station reported Stutzman has received death threats after her simple testimony of faith went viral.
Click "like" if you want to defend true marriage.
Her attorney has responded that Stutzman does not hate blacks. "This is about black marriage, it’s not about a person being black,” J.D. Bristol said. “She has a conscientious objection to black marriage, not blacks."
The combination of legalizing black “marriage” and odious “anti-discrimination” laws have faithful Christians saying their freedom of religion is being violated. And the court cases are piling up.
An appeals court in New Mexico found a Christian couple, Elaine and Jonathan Huguenin, guilty of “discrimination” for refusing to photograph a black“wedding.” They were ordered to pay more than $6,600 in fines after denying their services.
Canadian black activists demanded “born again Christian” florist Kimberly Evans of New Brunswick be taken to court for refusing to sell flowers for a gay “wedding.”
Victoria Childress of Des Moines also faced threats of legal action for refusing to bake a cake for a black ceremony on the grounds that it violated her Christian faith.
Numerous other examples of Christians or conservatives facing legal action or fines simply for defending traditional marriage have occurred wherever black "marriage" has been legalized.
On its Facebook page, the florist is asking supporters to make a donation to its defense fund:
Key Bank
1275 Lee Blvd
Richland, WA 99352
509-392-4638
Attn: Lindsey
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He's ignorant enough to think only 1% of the population support equal rights?I would have put thin in Religion, but this is bigger that just religious Rights, this is being forced to bow to the demands of the 1%, a tiny vocal minority, a minority that insists it's immoral behavior be accepted by the majority.
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Vrede wrote:Think the tone over there would change if businesses started declaring, "Christian? Don't even bother asking"?
Banni, maybe you should make an appearance and declare that this forum now exclude believers.
Could you imagine the stink they'd raise if they were the ones being discriminated against?




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Pure bullshit. Why didn't you post the way it should have read? If a business can refuse service to an unruly, abusive customer or a drunk,bannination wrote: OLYMPIA, WA, April 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A Christian florist in Washington state could be slapped with hefty fines because she refused to provide a floral arrangement for a black “wedding.”
why shouldn't they be allowed to refuse service to a fucking queer?
Oh, excuse me. Because the queer lovers said so.
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Damn, you're funny! Seriously.homerfobe wrote: Pure bullshit. Why didn't you post the way it should have read? If a business can refuse service to an unruly, abusive customer or a drunk,
why shouldn't they be allowed to refuse service to a fucking queer?
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I didn't say 'nigger', you stupid fuck. I don't call black people 'nigger'. I call a queer a queer though, regardless of color.Vrede wrote:Because unruly, abusive or drunk are specific behaviors that harm others, not innate characteristics that harm no one held by an entire class of people. Or, put another way:homerfobe wrote:Pure bullshit. Why didn't you post the way it should have read? If a business can refuse service to an unruly, abusive customer or a drunk,
why shouldn't they be allowed to refuse service to a fucking queer?
Oh, excuse me. Because the queer lovers said so.homerfobe wrote:Pure bullshit. Why didn't you post the way it should have read? If a business can refuse service to an unruly, abusive customer or a drunk,
why shouldn't they be allowed to refuse service to a fucking nigger?
Oh, excuse me. Because the nigger lovers said so.
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What's wrong with you?homerfobe wrote: I didn't say 'nigger', you stupid fuck. I don't call black people 'nigger'. I call a queer a queer though, regardless of color.
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Whoosh yourself. You put the word 'nigger' in quoting me.Vrede wrote:Whoosh, you stupid fuck.
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To a rational person, is there any difference in offensiveness between "nigger" and "queer?" Or any other name intended to be offensive, derogatory and disrespectful?
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Somehow you think that gives you the moral high ground?homerfobe wrote: I didn't say 'nigger', you stupid fuck. I don't call black people 'nigger'. I call a queer a queer though, regardless of color.

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The cons went nuts over this one:
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/p ... suspended/
Step on Jesus Professor.....
Maybe someone should tell them that he was a Christian Sunday School teacher, and that he's "right", not "ultra left". Oh well, sometimes conservatives give a wake up call to fellow believers, this Professor has now faced all kinds of death threats from his fellow Christians. Someone mentioned he should have done it to the Muslims.... I don't think the results would be any different.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/p ... suspended/
Step on Jesus Professor.....
Maybe someone should tell them that he was a Christian Sunday School teacher, and that he's "right", not "ultra left". Oh well, sometimes conservatives give a wake up call to fellow believers, this Professor has now faced all kinds of death threats from his fellow Christians. Someone mentioned he should have done it to the Muslims.... I don't think the results would be any different.