Fascism Is here

[GoCubsGo]

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

You want to revise on Vance?

CNN
Vance says Roberts is ‘profoundly wrong’ about judiciary’s role to check executive branch

Vice President JD Vance called Chief Justice John Roberts’ comments earlier this month that the judiciary’s role is to check the executive branch a “profoundly wrong sentiment” and said the courts should be “deferential” to the president, particularly when it comes to immigration.

“I thought that was a profoundly wrong sentiment. That’s one half of his job, the other half of his job is to check the excesses of his own branch. And you cannot have a country where the American people keep on electing immigration enforcement and the courts tell the American people they’re not allowed to have what they voted for,”

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One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

They've basically fallen in line with authoritarians past and present who've done things in the name of that nebulous entity "the people". Trump's even slung around "enemy of the people" on multiple occasions.

I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance. The argument goes that a democracy results in tyranny of the majority, whereas in a constitutional Republic, the tyranny of the majority is kept in check by rule of law.

These people are trash. They have no values outside of power. They openly contradict themselves whenever it's beneficial to them. We (were) a nation of laws. The foundation of which is the US constitution. Without said foundation what's even the point?

Scenario: a candidate runs his/her campaign on confiscating all private property and distributing it to "the people" and wins. Clearly against the law. But because it's "the will of the people" it's suddenly ok? Following the line of reasoning of Trump and Vance, yes.

Did you go inside O Really's gated community uninvited?

[Whack9]

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

They've basically fallen in line with authoritarians past and present who've done things in the name of that nebulous entity "the people". Trump's even slung around "enemy of the people" on multiple occasions.

I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance. The argument goes that a democracy results in tyranny of the majority, whereas in a constitutional Republic, the tyranny of the majority is kept in check by rule of law.

These people are trash. They have no values outside of power. They openly contradict themselves whenever it's beneficial to them. We (were) a nation of laws. The foundation of which is the US constitution. Without said foundation what's even the point?

Scenario: a candidate runs his/her campaign on confiscating all private property and distributing it to "the people" and wins. Clearly against the law. But because it's "the will of the people" it's suddenly ok? Following the line of reasoning of Trump and Vance, yes.

"I'm also reminded of Republicans often condemning the use of "democracy" preferring the use of "constitutional Republic" when describing our system of governance."

Are you saying the USA is not a "representative republic"?

That was your takeaway? Lmao.

[Whack9]

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

You want to revise on Vance?

CNN
Vance says Roberts is ‘profoundly wrong’ about judiciary’s role to check executive branch

Vice President JD Vance called Chief Justice John Roberts’ comments earlier this month that the judiciary’s role is to check the executive branch a “profoundly wrong sentiment” and said the courts should be “deferential” to the president, particularly when it comes to immigration.

“I thought that was a profoundly wrong sentiment. That’s one half of his job, the other half of his job is to check the excesses of his own branch. And you cannot have a country where the American people keep on electing immigration enforcement and the courts tell the American people they’re not allowed to have what they voted for,”

I think that follows exactly what I said. Vance is claiming the courts are blocking what the American people voted for because Trump was elected, but that's not how things work. If an action is unlawful, just because the the a simple majority of voters chose that action, doesn't mean it's ok to proceed.

Unless you meant my statement on Vance not being stupid

[Vrede too]

Whenever some childish pedant whines, “our country is not a democracy,” we know that he never learned anything after a meaningless factoid in 5th grade Civics, and that he isn’t smart enough to contribute to the discussion at hand.

We are a republic that has a representative democracy as the form of government. All republic means is we aren't a monarchy. Hint:
UK: a monarchy, but a democracy
NK: a republic, but not a democracy
Why is this so difficult for people on the right to understand?

They are obviously confused about the words Republic and Democracy: they are not exclusive of each other.
A Republic is a specific structure of government. Democracy is a generic term to express the fact that the people of a nation are free and have a say in the way their government is structured.

One of the arguments against due process and checks on the executive from the judiciary coming from both Vance and Trump at the moment is "the judiciary isn't allowing us to do what the people elected us to do", ergo, the will of the people.

I know Vance isn't that stupid. Trump on the other hand...

You want to revise on Vance?

CNN
Vance says Roberts is ‘profoundly wrong’ about judiciary’s role to check executive branch

Vice President JD Vance called Chief Justice John Roberts’ comments earlier this month that the judiciary’s role is to check the executive branch a “profoundly wrong sentiment” and said the courts should be “deferential” to the president, particularly when it comes to immigration.

“I thought that was a profoundly wrong sentiment. That’s one half of his job, the other half of his job is to check the excesses of his own branch. And you cannot have a country where the American people keep on electing immigration enforcement and the courts tell the American people they’re not allowed to have what they voted for,”

I think Just Deranged has proved over and over that he IS that stupid.

JD,
First, most Americans voted AGAINST you. Stop lying about that.
Then, the American people ARE allowed to have what they voted for. Just pass new law and get the funding from Congress to implement it. Few voted for governing by dictatorial fiat. Civics much?

[Whack9]

Whenever some childish pedant whines, “our country is not a democracy,” we know that he never learned anything after a meaningless factoid in 5th grade Civics, and that he isn’t smart enough to contribute to the discussion at hand.

We are a republic that has a representative democracy as the form of government. All republic means is we aren't a monarchy. Hint:
UK: a monarchy, but a democracy
NK: a republic, but not a democracy
Why is this so difficult for people on the right to understand?

They are obviously confused about the words Republic and Democracy: they are not exclusive of each other.
A Republic is a specific structure of government. Democracy is a generic term to express the fact that the people of a nation are free and have a say in the way their government is structured.

Also: Theres's this mysterious concept called common vernacular. Whenever someone calls the United States a democracy, everyone knows what that means.

These days, whenever we call a country a third world country, we don't mean a country that's unaligned with either NATO/The West (1st world) or the Warsaw Block/Soviet Union (2nd world). In common parlance 3rd world typically means poor/undeveloped. The original definition no longer applies but we still persist in using the term.

Taking things a bit further: Whenever "The West" is mentioned, depending on the context, it's known to refer to the a specific grouping of countries sharing similar values. Used in a different context it might refer to a cardinal direction.

This is how language works and always has. But this concept seems to go over some people's heads when they grab for the low hanging fruit of literal definitions thinking they've found a clever "gotcha". But instead they just make themselves look stupid.

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Also: Theres's this mysterious concept called common vernacular. Whenever someone calls the United States a democracy, everyone knows what that means.

These days, whenever we call a country a third world country, we don't mean a country that's unaligned with either NATO/The West (1st world) or the Warsaw Block/Soviet Union (2nd world). In common parlance 3rd world typically means poor/undeveloped. The original definition no longer applies but we still persist in using the term.

Taking things a bit further: Whenever "The West" is mentioned, depending on the context, it's known to refer to the a specific grouping of countries sharing similar values. Used in a different context it might refer to a cardinal direction.

This is how language works and always has. But this concept seems to go over some people's heads when they grab for the low hanging fruit of literal definitions thinking they've found a clever "gotcha". But instead they just make themselves look stupid.

Plus, someone mewling that we are a "representative republic" should be able to figure out that those representatives are chosen by democratic means. Duh.

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And leftists lost the House, Senate and the Presidency.

[Whack9]

One of the provisions buried in the stupidly named "Big Beautiful Bill" further removes the judiciaries power to enforce contempt rulings

https://robertreich.substack.com/p/the- ... e-big-ugly

What can the courts do in response to Trump’s open defiance of the judges and justices?

The courts have one power to make their orders stick: holding federal officials in contempt and enforcing such contempt citations against them.

Enforcing a contempt citation means fining or jailing the Trump lawyers who argue before them, and possibly invoking contempt all the way up the line to Trump.

...

[In the bill:]

No court of the United States may use appropriated funds to enforce a contempt citation for failure to comply with an injunction or temporary restraining order if no security was given when the injunction or order was issued….”

Translated: No federal court may enforce a contempt citation.

Obviously, courts need appropriated funds to do anything because Congress appropriates money to enable the courts to function. To require a security or bond to be given in civil proceedings seeking to stop alleged abuses by the federal government would effectively immunize such conduct from judicial review because those seeking such court orders generally don’t have the resources to post a bond.

Hence, with a stroke, the provision removes the judiciary’s capacity to hold officials in contempt.

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ICE apparently now has arrest powers against US citizens for misdemeanor criminal infractions.

Mayor of Newark arrested for trespassing at Ice detention center

The mayor of Newark, Ras Baraka, was arrested for trespass at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detention center in New Jersey on Friday as Democratic members of Congress also attempted to conduct what they say was a visit to the controversial facility to conduct “federal oversight”.

News of Baraka’s arrest at Delaney Hall was reported on X by Alina Habba, the acting US attorney for the district of New Jersey, and a former personal attorney and adviser to Donald Trump.

This one may blow up.

https://x.com/MarcoFoster_/status/1920927113021931933

Judge Tells DOJ To 'Operate With A Higher Standard' After Newark Mayor's Arrest
The DOJ charged Ras Baraka with trespassing outside an ICE facility, then dropped the charges. A federal judge called the DOJ's actions "embarrassing."

... “The hasty arrest of Newark Mayor Ras Baraka, followed swiftly by the dismissal of these trespassing charges a mere 13 days later, suggests a worrying misstep by your office,” Magistrate Judge Andre Espinosa told federal prosecutors during a Wednesday hearing....

“The reality is this: I didn’t do anything wrong,” Baraka told his supporters after being released from custody.

The DOJ apparently agreed, and acting U.S. Attorney for the District of New Jersey Alina Habba said she would drop the charges against Baraka.

Wow, not even in office 2 months and HabbaDabbaDoo has to retract major stupidity.

Espinosa granted Habba’s request to dismiss the charges on Wednesday, but called the DOJ’s actions “embarrassing.”

“The apparent rush in this case, culminating today in the embarrassing retraction of charges, suggests a failure to adequately investigate,” Espinosa said. “Your office must operate with a higher standard than that.”

While charges against Baraka have been dropped, Habba has charged Rep. LaMonica McIver (D-N.J.) with assaulting two ICE agents during the May 9 clash outside the detention center. Federal prosecutors argue that McIver attempted to stop Baraka’s arrest by pushing and grabbing Homeland Security and ICE agents. McIver has denied the charges.

“I went to an ICE facility in my district to conduct oversight because that is my job and my lawful right as a member of Congress,” McIver wrote in a fundraising email....

This smells like desperate face-saving by HabbaDabbaDoo. IF her claim is accurate she will still have to argue in court that it was illegal for McIver to try to prevent an arrest that she has now admitted was ILLEGAL. Good luck with that.

[Whack9]

Harvard no longer permitted to enroll international students. All current international students must exit Harvard or lose legal status.

USA brain drain incoming

The Trump administration previously warned that the university’s federal funding was at risk if it did not comply with the president’s efforts to eliminate diversity programs, cooperate with immigration enforcement, dissolve pro-Palestine demonstrations and submit to a “viewpoint diversity” audit.

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Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused the university of “fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party

[GoCubsGo]

Our country is forever stained.

[GoCubsGo]

Harvard no longer permitted to enroll international students. All current international students must exit Harvard or lose legal status.

USA brain drain incoming

The Trump administration previously warned that the university’s federal funding was at risk if it did not comply with the president’s efforts to eliminate diversity programs, cooperate with immigration enforcement, dissolve pro-Palestine demonstrations and submit to a “viewpoint diversity” audit.

...

Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused the university of “fostering violence, antisemitism, and coordinating with the Chinese Communist Party

She's Habius Corpusing them.

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Harvard no longer permitted to enroll international students. All current international students must exit Harvard or lose legal status.

USA brain drain incoming

https://bsky.app/profile/the-independen ... rvbsl6b22t

Plus, the spread of US values among foreign intellectuals is also hampered. International students at all schools will be intimidated and many others will be discouraged from coming at all. It also denies American students the opportunity to be exposed to non-Americans, 1/4 of Harvard's student population.

[GoCubsGo]

[Supsalemgr]

"plain clothes" law enforcement is hardly a new concept.

[O Really]

Plain clothes is different from "undercover." Plain clothes officers wear a badge on their belt or pendant, and identify themselves when confronting a suspect or witness. Undercover officers try to blend in. Nobody wears bandido masks. These people have probably been told to be as intimidating and scary as possible and to treat people as harshly as possible.

[GoCubsGo]

Plain clothes is different from "undercover." Plain clothes officers wear a badge on their belt or pendant, and identify themselves when confronting a suspect or witness. Undercover officers try to blend in. Nobody wears bandido masks. These people have probably been told to be as intimidating and scary as possible and to treat people as harshly as possible.

Yep, it's bullshit jackboot tactics.

[Supsalemgr]

Plain clothes is different from "undercover." Plain clothes officers wear a badge on their belt or pendant, and identify themselves when confronting a suspect or witness. Undercover officers try to blend in. Nobody wears bandido masks. These people have probably been told to be as intimidating and scary as possible and to treat people as harshly as possible.

Yep, it's bullshit jackboot tactics.

Label as you choose. Waiting to arrest someone who has violated the law is not "jackboot".

[GoCubsGo]

Harvard no longer permitted to enroll international students. All current international students must exit Harvard or lose legal status.

USA brain drain incoming

https://bsky.app/profile/the-independen ... rvbsl6b22t

Plus, the spread of US values among foreign intellectuals is also hampered. International students at all schools will be intimidated and many others will be discouraged from coming at all. It also denies American students the opportunity to be exposed to non-Americans, 1/4 of Harvard's student population.

Let the judicial shitshow and DonOld nutty begin.

Federal judge blocks Trump administration from barring foreign student enrollment at Harvard