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The tell all books from WH insiders are now coming out. They all are indicating Biden was not in charge.

Just wondered who you guys feel was actually in charge? Do you all feel mislead?

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Maybe it was the people holding his disease ridden ass up. One said to the other "I think he shit his depends." Kamala whispers to a reporter "We've got stuff to get done."
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Whoever it was, it wasn't a crazed lunatic.
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Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
The tell all books from WH insiders are now coming out. They all are indicating Biden was not in charge.

Just wondered who you guys feel was actually in charge? Do you all feel mislead?
A president's job is to create strategy and broad policy inititives, to hire/appoint a capable cabinet, and to work with congress to achieve the goals of that strategy. Not everybody makes it work well - some do it better than others. But it isn't the president's job to get personally involved in every little aspect of daily life in the government. I think Biden set a good direction when he was first elected, and had a capable group of people managing day-to-day. So if he slows down a bit, things keep running. I doubt anybody believes Trump personally thinks up all this stuff he's doing, but he's following the Project 2025 people and other ummm "advisors". Personally, I'd rather he have better people (like some with applicable experience and no criminal record) and spend his days playing golf and hate-tweeting. Oh wait. He does that. Except for the "better people" part.

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O Really wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:58 am
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Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
The tell all books from WH insiders are now coming out. They all are indicating Biden was not in charge.

Just wondered who you guys feel was actually in charge? Do you all feel mislead?
A president's job is to create strategy and broad policy inititives, to hire/appoint a capable cabinet, and to work with congress to achieve the goals of that strategy. Not everybody makes it work well - some do it better than others. But it isn't the president's job to get personally involved in every little aspect of daily life in the government. I think Biden set a good direction when he was first elected, and had a capable group of people managing day-to-day. So if he slows down a bit, things keep running. I doubt anybody believes Trump personally thinks up all this stuff he's doing, but he's following the Project 2025 people and other ummm "advisors". Personally, I'd rather he have better people (like some with applicable experience and no criminal record) and spend his days playing golf and hate-tweeting. Oh wait. He does that. Except for the "better people" part.
Denial is in full bloom.

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Denial is in full bloom.
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O Really wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:58 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
The tell all books from WH insiders are now coming out. They all are indicating Biden was not in charge.

Just wondered who you guys feel was actually in charge? Do you all feel mislead?
A president's job is to create strategy and broad policy inititives, to hire/appoint a capable cabinet, and to work with congress to achieve the goals of that strategy. Not everybody makes it work well - some do it better than others. But it isn't the president's job to get personally involved in every little aspect of daily life in the government. I think Biden set a good direction when he was first elected, and had a capable group of people managing day-to-day. So if he slows down a bit, things keep running. I doubt anybody believes Trump personally thinks up all this stuff he's doing, but he's following the Project 2025 people and other ummm "advisors". Personally, I'd rather he have better people (like some with applicable experience and no criminal record) and spend his days playing golf and hate-tweeting. Oh wait. He does that. Except for the "better people" part.
Micromanaging pretty much sank Carter and almost sank early Clinton.

Getting the team to all row in the same direction is paramount.

We may never know the actual truth if Biden was as diminished as some allege. The fact that with a couple of exceptions the team is still rowing together and that's telling.
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Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 11:42 am
O Really wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:58 am
Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
The tell all books from WH insiders are now coming out. They all are indicating Biden was not in charge.

Just wondered who you guys feel was actually in charge? Do you all feel mislead?
A president's job is to create strategy and broad policy inititives, to hire/appoint a capable cabinet, and to work with congress to achieve the goals of that strategy. Not everybody makes it work well - some do it better than others. But it isn't the president's job to get personally involved in every little aspect of daily life in the government. I think Biden set a good direction when he was first elected, and had a capable group of people managing day-to-day. So if he slows down a bit, things keep running. I doubt anybody believes Trump personally thinks up all this stuff he's doing, but he's following the Project 2025 people and other ummm "advisors". Personally, I'd rather he have better people (like some with applicable experience and no criminal record) and spend his days playing golf and hate-tweeting. Oh wait. He does that. Except for the "better people" part.
Denial is in full bloom.
Basically, O Really is saying that disease ridden Joe was incapable of running the country, the leftist assholes kept it hidden from the public. Another hypocritical trait being that these fools scream transparency.
Like who knew that the Rainbow Superstar Cultmaster thought that all MAGA voters were white. :lol: Racist hypocrite, then there's O Really who complains about immigration but lives in a gated community.
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There's always another side.

Fake news: No, Joe Biden was not in decline

I have worked in the arena. As a White House intern in the Office of Presidential Correspondence, an elected delegate to the Democratic National Convention, and a veteran of campaigns at every level, I have had the chance to see how government really works — behind the speeches and the soundbites.

I have seen former President Joe Biden — not resembling the caricature in these new political tell-alls that people keep publishing, but as a man committed to serving others, listening when it’s hardest and leading when others duck responsibility.

That’s why it is disheartening to see the growing shelf of books peddling the idea of a president in decline.


narrative — a cheaply packaged tale of malarkey for the cable news set and the Beltway cocktail circuit. These books offer little that is new, but much that is convenient for those looking to profit from pessimism. They rely on anonymous sources, innuendo, and a tired playbook. They question the man’s faculties, reframe routine deliberation as dysfunction, and ignore inconvenient facts that contradict the thesis.

There is clearly a market for these portrayals — just not among those who actually take the time to govern.

The audience is a self-satisfied chorus of the “permanent, professional chattering class,” as Naomi Biden rightly put it. They rarely step into the arena but make a living from narrating its battles. And they seem far more comfortable speculating about the president’s gait than engaging with the gravity of his work.

There is a deeper cynicism at work here — one that goes beyond politics. These books reflect a broader contempt for the idea that decency can still exist in public life. To the authors and pundits profiting off these narratives, it’s unthinkable that someone would choose service over self-promotion, empathy over ego, or duty over drama. So they invent a version of Biden that makes more sense to them: a man propped up by aides, out of touch, fading. It is an easier story to sell, even if it is not true.
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O Really wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:58 am
A president's job is to create strategy and broad policy initiatives, to hire/appoint a capable cabinet, and to work with congress to achieve the goals of that strategy. Not everybody makes it work well - some do it better than others. But it isn't the president's job to get personally involved in every little aspect of daily life in the government. I think Biden set a good direction when he was first elected, and had a capable group of people managing day-to-day. So if he slows down a bit, things keep running. I doubt anybody believes Trump personally thinks up all this stuff he's doing, but he's following the Project 2025 people and other ummm "advisors". Personally, I'd rather he have better people (like some with applicable experience and no criminal record) and spend his days playing golf and hate-tweeting. Oh wait. He does that. Except for the "better people" part.
"in charge" is a phrase so vague as to be nearly meaningless. Carter was famously detail oriented (GoCubsGo beat me to it). This did not work out too well for him. Otoh, Reagan was famously delegating and disengaged. Different style, still "in charge". I didn't like his policy choices, but things pretty much worked until he was so oblivious that he allowed the Constitution to be shredded by Ollie North, William Casey, Caspar Weinberger, Elliott Abrams, Robert McFarlane, John Poindexter and others. Reagan was likely suffering from the early stages of Alzheimer's, yet the public was kept in the dark. Was he not "in charge" at some point?

"mislead"? Who is so naive that s/he doesn't always assume that of pols? It's hilarious to read a MAGAt whining about it when his dear leader LIES a documented thousands of times per year and is still desperately trying to mislead America about the 2020 election because he's too much of a snowflake to admit losing.

I never wanted Joe to run for a second term (nor a first) and his age was a big factor in that. IF he was less involved and competent toward the end it's sad, but I'm not surprised. Unlike RepuQs the Dems eventually showed the ability to correct their mistakes. The modern GQP wallows in them.

As O Really says, the big difference is that Joe built a team of qualified, experienced, intelligent, patriotic and competent people able to keep government ticking no matter what. Otoh, Dementia Don's only requirement has been slobbering loyalty. They range from barely functional to borderline psychotic. Will any of them ever be honest with us about TACO Trump's lapses? Don't make me laugh.
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The dementia trump books at the end of his term are gonna be interesting.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 3:23 pm
The dementia trump books at the end of his term are gonna be interesting.
Have you read any of the Bob Woodward books on the first Trump admin? I read the one filled with his unedited interviews. The dudes a moron. It was painful

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Yeah, and that was from the horse's mouth.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:54 pm
Yeah, and that was from the horse's mouth.
Rapepublicans: Biden was senile. Just listen to him.

- Trump: Exhibits the same qualms they had with Biden, but also has an absurdly high turnover in his first admin with plenty of tell all books spilling the details of the incompetence -

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 1:50 pm
There's always another side.

Fake news: No, Joe Biden was not in decline
Stage 4 prostate cancer that spread to the bones doesn't happen overnight. :lol:

The slurred mumbling speech and inability to walk without assistance has been obvious. :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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It's begun. This is an excellent leak. They certainly have the personnel to make it realistically look like a Faux Noise show.

Pete Hegseth
Dan Bongino
Sean Duffy
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Michael Waltz
Keith Kellog
Mike Huckabee
Jeanine Pirro
Michael Bastasch
Sara Carter
Kimberly Guilfoyle
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If all the allegations are true about Biden not really being in charge - and considering his obvious decline, I tend to believe the allegations - then this has to be the WORST scandal in the history of our country. Just imagine: The so-called leader of the free world was just a decomposing cadaver dressed in a suit while other people were calling the shots in leading our nation. That’s just unforgivable. And the media and DNC were complicit in covering it all up.

Worst of all is Biden himself. If he really cared about his country, he would have stepped aside instead of seeking re-election. Given his power lust and selfishness, it’s hard to feel sorry for his present state. It’s the least of what he deserves.

I will argue that Ronald Reagan should have been kicked out of power as soon as his memory started to short circuit..

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I think it is a gross exaggeration and intentionally childishly insulting to say he was a " decomposing cadaver dressed in a suit. There were enough public appearances both before and after the catastrophic ummm "debate" to show that wasn't true, even though it's pretty clear he's losing some faculties. Take the Republican exaggeration and spin out of it though, and I don't think you'll get much argument here that he should have stepped down. Had he done so with a year left in his term, Kamala would have had time to earn her nomination and would have run as an incumbent and likely we wouldn't have the mess we have now. But really, even if he was only a part-time President, the same people managing the various aspects of the government were the same ones that were hired/appointed to do so.

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Jasmine wrote:
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If all the allegations are true about Biden not really being in charge - and considering his obvious decline, I tend to believe the allegations - then this has to be the WORST scandal in the history of our country. Just imagine: The so-called leader of the free world was just a decomposing cadaver dressed in a suit while other people were calling the shots in leading our nation. That’s just unforgivable. And the media and DNC were complicit in covering it all up....
As O Really says we saw Joe in action over his last year. Perhaps diminished, but your exaggerations are ridiculous on their face.

Then, your US history education is clearly lacking. Look up the deceptions around FDR and Woodrow Wilson's illnesses for "WORST (medical) scandal(s) in the history of our country." There was also some lying around the seriousness of Reagan's gunshot injury. There may have also been some before Wilson, that's where my US history education is lacking. For example, Idk how much truth was told about William Henry Harrison's pneumonia during his 1 month presidency, death April 4, 1841.
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