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ICE agents sometimes use trains and buses for travel. Are protesters planning to block them?

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Anonymous too wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:52 pm
ICE agents sometimes use trains and buses for travel. Are protesters planning to block them?
Maybe they should try it and see how it works. I suggest starting with trains.

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supesalemgr2 wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:54 pm
Anonymous too wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:52 pm
ICE agents sometimes use trains and buses for travel. Are protesters planning to block them?
Maybe they should try it and see how it works. I suggest starting with trains.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 7:46 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:54 pm
Anonymous too wrote:
Fri Jan 23, 2026 2:52 pm
ICE agents sometimes use trains and buses for travel. Are protesters planning to block them?
Maybe they should try it and see how it works. I suggest starting with trains.
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neoplacebo wrote:
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You got you a buddy or did you just create one?
I've been part of a successful train blockade.
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Matt Frewer was hilarious as trashcan man.

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Time will tell about this event. The victim was supposedly armed and a 9mm gun was found at the scene.

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And nobody can trust what DHS tells us about the shooting and Minnesota will again be frozen out.
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Time will tell about this event. The victim was supposedly armed and a 9mm gun was found at the scene.
From my understanding he had a gun in his waistband. I saw another video showing an ICE member removing it. A few seconds later they lit him up. Saw another bystander video of ICE confiscating people's phones that had recorded the incident. Waiting for more videos before making an assessment.

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Here's another video

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/FwWjQo1RJD

Oh shit another

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/6GkEeX7hfU

Looks like the ICE thug shoved some woman, dude that later got shot had gotten between them and got maced. He wasn't even really getting all up in ICE's shit like some of the other protestors have in the past. He was off on the sidelines. Watch the first video. They kept escalating.

Slowed down and stabilized
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/5HwPSrRt1g

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Cosplay Kristi is already refusing to answer direct questions by deflection and then blatantly lying her ass off.


What's also astounding is the gross incompetence and chickenshit nature of the heroic ICE agents.
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Oh, and ICE, Cosplay Kristi and DonOld are murderers.

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Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:20 pm
Cosplay Kristi is already refusing to answer direct questions by deflection and then blatantly lying her ass off.


What's also astounding is the gross incompetence and chickenshit nature of the heroic ICE agents.
Yeah I saw Bovino making statements a few hours after the incident. You can tell they're just making shit up because any competent, serious, administration would offer a statement to quell outrage and calm nerves and wait until further investigation concludes before deciding who was in the wrong. Nah, they quite literally make shit up. Banana Republic USA.

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Whack9 wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 7:17 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 6:20 pm
Cosplay Kristi is already refusing to answer direct questions by deflection and then blatantly lying her ass off.


What's also astounding is the gross incompetence and chickenshit nature of the heroic ICE agents.
Yeah I saw Bovino making statements a few hours after the incident. You can tell they're just making shit up because any competent, serious, administration would offer a statement to quell outrage and calm nerves and wait until further investigation concludes before deciding who was in the wrong. Nah, they quite literally make shit up. Banana Republic USA.
Orders from the top, inflame and triple down. It's the Roy Cohn way.

Didn't work out well for Roy in the end either.
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Holy shit.

Also, how bout them Epstein files?

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We've seen over and over that "2A MAGA" does not care about liberals or non-Whites' right to carry. No point in asking except to expose their hypocrisy.
Whack9 wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 2:09 pm
Here's another video

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/FwWjQo1RJD

Oh shit another

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/6GkEeX7hfU

Looks like the ICE thug shoved some woman, dude that later got shot had gotten between them and got maced. He wasn't even really getting all up in ICE's shit like some of the other protestors have in the past. He was off on the sidelines. Watch the first video. They kept escalating.

Slowed down and stabilized
https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/5HwPSrRt1g
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Oh Gods, it's even worse than the other angle.

...He was just interjecting his body between those two other people and the agents.

They maced them. 4 of them piled on him. Somebody said 'GUN' and they all started groping him.

ONE OF THEM TAKES HIS GUN, and a split second later one shoots him 6 times. Can't tell if it's the same guy.

.....and then ANOTHER one shoots him 5 more times.

THEY. DISARMED. HIM. AND. IMMEDIATELY. EXECUTED. HIM.

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EXPANDED CONTEXT - FOR THOSE WHO WANT IT

~ ~ ~

Two people (women?) were confronting ICE agents while the victim (Alex Pretti?) was waving traffic through. They said in an interview that they were all trying to direct traffic around what ICE was doing, and warn people away.

Helping, in short.

ICE gets irritated by the two women, and orders them to back up, physically pushing them towards the camera angle, and the victim interjects himself between the ICE agents and the two people.

ICE sprays all three with chemical irritant.

They start to focus on forcing the victim down to the ground, at least 3 agents are hands-on, when SOMEBODY says 'GUN!' and the ICE agents start REALLY wrestling with him.

The gun is in his back left side, tucked into his waist band. There are some still images that show it before ICE figured out where it was.

(Please keep in mind this is happening in fractions of a second here)

One ICE agent appears to begin hitting the victim with... something. A gun, or a flashlight, or something small that can be seen outlined as he raises it, and appears to hit the victim in the head repeatedly.

An agent in the Grey Coat, who is closest to where the gun is shown in other photos appears to grab the gun with his right hand, stands up, and moves away from the victim who is still being piled on. This APPEARS to be the victims gun, and from the hot-and-fresh wikipedia page he appears to be the lawful gun owner, and licensed to conceal carry. Obviously I'm just... doing the best I can to keep the facts straight.

When Agent in Gray is roughly one step away from the victim, holding the gun out... somebody fires into the victim several times, and keeps firing.

....I honestly can't tell who.

All the ICE agents start to scatter, and the victim is still moving.

He is then shot again. Somebody said 11 times... which sounds about right. 5 and 6, or something like that.

I can't tell who the two shooters are.

....but the gun owner was helpless, piled on, didn't appear to ever touch his gun or even have his hands anywhere but on the pavement as the Agents piled on him. It would have been nearly impossible for him to reach back and grab a weapon from the angle that this went down.

~ ~ ~

This... is just my opinion, but this makes Renee Goods killing look like... happier times.

I'll maintain this until I find somebody who has done a better job than me, and then post a link redirecting to them.

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Final expanded context -

There is now clear, stabilized footage... and I'm taking a mental health break from the internet.

TL;DR - Brown Beanie roughs up women, Victim steps between them, Brown Beanie sprays everyone and his buddies pile on the Victim. Gray Jacket disarms him. Black Beanie shoots him 5 times for no good reason.

... and then Brown Beanie shoots him 5 or 6 more times for not dying fast enough.
:cry: :angry-cussing: Still, never a good idea to take a gun to a protest no matter how legal it is to do so.

Alex Pretti - who DHS labeled a domestic terrorist - honoring a veteran that passed away in the ICU.

Of note: The deceased victims of this crackdown are named Pretti and Good. Are we getting the message yet?
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Trump's America.



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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Jan 24, 2026 9:41 pm
We've seen over and over that "2A MAGA" does not care about liberals or non-Whites' right to carry. No point in asking except to expose their hypocrisy.


:cry: :angry-cussing: Still, never a good idea to take a gun to a protest no matter how legal it is to do so.

Alex Pretti - who DHS labeled a domestic terrorist - honoring a veteran that passed away in the ICU.

Of note: The deceased victims of this crackdown are named Pretti and Good. Are we getting the message yet?
My bad. :oops:
Major Gun Rights Group Condemns Trump Official’s Claim Shooting Was ‘Legally Justified’

A major gun rights organization condemned a Trump official’s claim that Saturday’s shooting death of Minneapolis protester Alex Jeffrey Pretti was “legally justified” because he carried a gun.

U.S. attorney Bill Essayli wrote on X ...

DHS: LIES and more LIES. :ateeth:
Video showed Pretti approach ICE with his phone in hand — not a gun — so he could record their actions.

Pretti’s family said he had a lawful permit to carry a concealed handgun in Minnesota, which ICE agents were seen on video removing from his person when tackling Pretti to the ground. They then shot Pretti nine times “in self-defense,” according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Podcaster Emily Jashinsky published a statement from Gun Owners of America on X:
Emily Jashinsky

NEW statement to me on the Minneapolis shooting from @GunOwners:

"We are saddened by the loss of life in Minneapolis, Minnesota earlier today during a federal law-enforcement operation. Because details remain limited and facts are still emerging, it is essential that the Department of Justice conduct a complete, transparent, and prompt investigation so the public can fully understand what occurred and maintain confidence in the rule of law.
:lol: Good luck with that, the "unheard of" DHS, not even FBI, coverup is already in high gear.
... The group — which has about two million members — then defended Pretti for carrying a licensed concealed handgun....
Furthermore, we condemn the untoward comments of U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli. Federal agents are not 'highly likely' to be 'legally justified' in 'shooting' concealed carry licensees who approach while lawfully carrying a firearm. The Second Amendment protects Americans' right to bear arms while protesting—a right the federal government must not infringe upon.
I don't agree with the laws about public carry, but I'm glad that GOA is balanced and nonpartisan about them.
Finally, the Left must stop antagonizing immigration and border patrol agents who are taking criminals off the streets and play a crucial role in protecting communities and upholding the rule of law."
:bs: I won't hold my breath waiting for GOA to tell the Right to stop antagonizing LEOs.

SOME ammosexuals are objecting to the ICE murder.
... The National Rifle Association, with five million members, has not commented yet on the situation.

Commenters flooded social media asking why the NRA hadn’t yet taken a stand on Pretti’s right to carry a licensed firearm.





What video shows in the shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis

... Videos show the deadly encounter in South Minneapolis at about 9:05 a.m. between several agents and Alex Pretti, a registered (ICU) nurse.
:o :crybaby: That could have been me at 37, but without the gun.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security said the man approached Border Patrol agents with a handgun, and agents tried to disarm him.

“The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted. ... Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots.” Tricia McLaughlin, DHS assistant secretary for public affairs, said in a statement.

Videos do not show Pretti wielding a gun.
:angry-banghead: MAGA always LIES. 1312
In the moments leading up to the shooting, Pretti is seen holding up his phone toward the agents. Local officials have told protesters to use their phones to record agents conducting immigration enforcement.

Pretti then appeared to step between an agent and another person who was pushed by the agent.
Again, could have been me. :problem:
... The shooting is under federal investigation. Local officials said they were prevented from their own investigation....
Coverup. :puke-left:
The Minneapolis Shooting Videos Are Horrifying—and Incredibly Clear. Stephen Miller’s Response Is Downright Chilling.

... “An assassin tried to murder federal agents,” Stephen Miller said. (JD Vance, the heir apparent to the Republican presidential nomination, reposted Miller.) And what about the man who is nominally still running the country? Donald Trump pointed to a picture of Pretti’s handgun, confiscated by the agents, and noted it was loaded and “ready to go – What is that all about?”
:roll: Murderous MAGA always LIES.
... But the Trump administration has already told you what happened. One, the man had a gun, which is bad now. Two, the man was out to kill federal agents, which is obvious, because he had a gun.

We all have to decide for ourselves what we’ll believe about this case.

On the one hand, Pretti was a nurse who worked at the Veterans’ Administration. (If there’s one job that screams “disrespect for federal officers,” it’s “nurse at the VA.”) Pretti was reaching for a woman whom an anonymous federal agent had just launched into a snowbank in frigid weather. It even looks like if anyone fired Pretti’s gun, it was a federal agent who had disarmed him and accidentally shot it into the pavement. And, fine, the physical altercation was initiated entirely by the agents, who put the woman on the ground and mobbed Pretti before shooting him to death.

But on the other hand, Stephen Miller says the man was an assassin. Would Stephen Miller lie?

Then there’s the matter of the gun itself. As Trump noted, the gun was “ready to go.” Pretti, though, had a legal right to carry that gun, thanks in large part to the gun-rights movement that has been part of Trump’s base for his entire political career. And most people who carry guns also carry bullets for those guns, as bullets are the primary projectile that guns send flying through the air.

But on the other hand, Alex Pretti had a gun. And would any American carry a gun in public without the intention to murder federal agents in cold blood? Remember, the sum total of violent crimes this ICU nurse had been charged with in his life was zero.

Miller says Pretti was a “domestic terrorist,” a label the administration also applied to the also-37-year-old Renee Good after one of its agents shot her through her car’s side window. The feds left their victim’s body splayed out on the road after taking the life from it, but they were at least a bit more dignified with him in one way. Nobody appears to have called Pretti a “fucking bitch,” as Good’s killer did right after shooting her.
ICE and DHS are the domestic terrorists murdering peaceful protesters.
You might get the impression from this series of federal killings that the real crime against this administration is opposing it in any way. But can you really trust yourself?
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