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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pm
The retribution continues.

In theory there should be some credible evidence before a judge signs off on a warrant.

Im gonna guess trumpaloon judge or doctored evidence.

https://x.com/fox8news/status/2016583628684173540
I checked several sources, none name the judge. Must be the paper bag over his head.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pm
The retribution continues.

In theory there should be some credible evidence before a judge signs off on a warrant.

Im gonna guess trumpaloon judge or doctored evidence.

Also, don't forget Trump's very own DOJ under William Barr performed an investigation and found no evidence of widespread fraud.

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Tue Jan 27, 2026 2:42 pm
Pretti’s father, Michael Pretti, had issued a warning to his son.

We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid.
His blockade was unsuccessful. Should have listened to his dad.

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 6:19 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jan 28, 2026 1:54 pm
The retribution continues.

In theory there should be some credible evidence before a judge signs off on a warrant.

Im gonna guess trumpaloon judge or doctored evidence.

https://x.com/fox8news/status/2016583628684173540
I checked several sources, none name the judge. Must be the paper bag over his head.
It's probably The Unknown Judge sort of like The Unknown Comic was on the Gong Show. He had a paper bag over his head but it had cutouts in it.

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Two senior National Security officials leak info about secret watchlists

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices- ... -americans
Two senior national security officials tell me that there are more than a dozen secret and obscure watchlists that homeland security and the FBI are using to track protesters (both anti-ICE and pro-Palestinian), “Antifa,” and others who are promiscuously labeled “domestic terrorists.”

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Some of these, like Hummingbird, were created to vet and track immigrants, in this case Afghans seeking to settle in the United States. Slipstream is a classified social media repository. Others are tools used to link people on the streets together, including collecting on friends and families who have nothing to do with any purported lawbreaking.

There’s practically nothing available that further describes what these watchlists do, how large they are, or what they entail.

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Among other functions, the new watchlists process tips, situation reports and collected photographs and video submitted by both the public and from agents in the field; they create a “common operating picture” in places like Minneapolis; they allow task forces to target individuals for surveillance and arrest; and they create the capacity for intelligence people to link individuals together through geographic proximity or what is labeled “call chaining” by processing telephone numbers, emails, and other contact information

“One thing I’m pushing for right now … we’re going to create a database where those people that are arrested for interference, impeding and assault, we’re going to make them famous,” Tom Homan, Trump’s border czar, told Fox News earlier this month.

Watchlists in general fly in the face of the spirit of the Constitution and the protections it’s supposed to embody against unreasonable search and seizure, and relating to the right of privacy.

“Fairness can rarely be obtained by secret, one-sided determination of facts decisive of rights,” Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter said of a Justice Department list of subversives during the Red Scare. “Secrecy is not congenial to truthseeking.”

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When I asked civil liberties experts what might be the legal justification for the expanded watchlisting, Rachel Levinson-Waldman, the Brennan Center’s Liberty and National Security Program director said that NSPM-7 and Attorney General Pam Bondi’s December 5 memo implementing the presidential directive “might be their justification.”

A senior intelligence official, who confirmed the existence of the watchlists described earlier, characterized the problem another way.

“Lists of this and that—this social media post, that video taken of someone videoing ICE, the mere attendance at a protest—gets pulsed by federal cops on the beat to check for criminality but eventually just becomes a list itself of criminality, with the cops thinking that indeed they are dealing with criminals and terrorists.”
Some of the stuff going on ought to be a concern to all Americans regardless of political orientation. Ask yourself the question, "if this was done by the political party I didn't vote for, would I be ok with it?" No leader is above criticism.

Many of these things transcend political orientation. There's a common ground, a common kernal of truth, that all Americans ought to agree on. Instead our political climate has become raw tribalism focused on vengeance against resentments.

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I'm not sure "principles" exist anymore in the wild.

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O Really wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:33 am
I'm not sure "principles" exist anymore in the wild.
A few conservative/republicans I know, some of which I know voted for Trump in 2016 and possibly 2020, seem to have become disillusioned this time around. One of them even began sharing anti-ICE media to my complete suprisee. These aren't your run of the mill MAGAs though. They're reasonably intelligent.

Compare John McCain to Donald Trump. Man, how things have changed.

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"Doonesbury" isn't new except Sundays, and runs past panels. Currently, they're doing a Trump story line from back in the "Apprentice" days.
Trudeau at the time probably thought he was engaging in exaggerated satire - in fact he underestimated the level of despicability of he who became famous (infamous) for being abusive to people who followed him.

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2026/01/27

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If true, good news.

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O Really wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:56 am
"Doonesbury" isn't new except Sundays, and runs past panels. Currently, they're doing a Trump story line from back in the "Apprentice" days.
Trudeau at the time probably thought he was engaging in exaggerated satire - in fact he underestimated the level of despicability of he who became famous (infamous) for being abusive to people who followed him.

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2026/01/27
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Whack9 wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 9:56 am
Two senior National Security officials leak info about secret watchlists

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ices- ... -americans



Some of the stuff going on ought to be a concern to all Americans regardless of political orientation. Ask yourself the question, "if this was done by the political party I didn't vote for, would I be ok with it?" No leader is above criticism.

Many of these things transcend political orientation. There's a common ground, a common kernal of truth, that all Americans ought to agree on. Instead our political climate has become raw tribalism focused on vengeance against resentments.

"My side is better than your side. The means to the end don't matter so long as we win."
Edward Snowden's NSA revelations came in 2013, early in Obama's 2nd admin. I supported him then and recognized that things could get worse. Much worse. Palantir, the data management behemoth, is central to ICE's targeting individuals for detentions and neighborhood to raid.

Expose' articles from 404media (all with a pay wall, sorry):
ICE Just Paid Palantir Tens of Millions for ‘Complete Target Analysis of Known Populations’
Leaked: Palantir’s Plan to Help ICE Deport People
This Is Palantir’s Justification for Building ICE’s Master Database
Inside ICE’s Tool to Monitor Phones in Entire Neighborhoods
‘ELITE’: The Palantir App ICE Uses to Find Neighborhoods to Raid

Then, there are other tools like Tangles and Webloc:
Inside ICE’s Tool to Monitor Phones in Entire Neighborhoods

It's not just immigrants:
Police Told to Be ‘as Vague as Permissible’ About Why They Use Flock

We are building a mechanism for social control that the Stasi could have only dreamed of.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 11:35 am
O Really wrote:
Thu Jan 29, 2026 10:56 am
"Doonesbury" isn't new except Sundays, and runs past panels. Currently, they're doing a Trump story line from back in the "Apprentice" days.
Trudeau at the time probably thought he was engaging in exaggerated satire - in fact he underestimated the level of despicability of he who became famous (infamous) for being abusive to people who followed him.

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2026/01/27
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:lol: :headscratch: I get that it's downhill, but how is it being steered?


Then they came for the journalists:
Journalist Don Lemon has been arrested after he covered a Minnesota church protest

... Lemon was arrested by federal agents in Los Angeles, where he had been covering the Grammy Awards, his attorney Abbe Lowell said. It is unclear what charge or charges Lemon and the others are facing in the Jan. 18 protest at the Cities Church in St. Paul. Lemon's arrest came after a magistrate judge last week rejected prosecutors’ initial bid to charge him....

“Don has been a journalist for 30 years, and his constitutionally protected work in Minneapolis was no different than what he has always done,” Lowell said in a statement. “The First Amendment exists to protect journalists whose role it is to shine light on the truth and hold those in power accountable.”

... Shortly after the first attempt to charge him fell through, he predicted on his show that the administration would try again.

“And guess what,” he said, “here I am. Keep trying. That’s not going to stop me from being a journalist. That’s not going to diminish my voice. Go ahead, make me into the new Jimmy Kimmel, if you want. Just do it. Because I’m not going anywhere.”

... The Justice Department’s swift investigation into the church disruption stands in contrast to its decision not to open a civil rights investigation into Good’s killing by an ICE officer. The department has not said whether it will open a civil rights probe into the killing of 37-year-old Alex Pretti by federal officers.

“Instead of investigating the federal agents who killed two peaceful Minnesota protesters, the Trump Justice Department is devoting its time, attention and resources to this arrest, and that is the real indictment of wrongdoing in this case,” Lowell said.
Then they came for the caregivers:

A Texas man detained by ICE was his disabled son’s sole caregiver. His son will be laid to rest without him

Jackboots. Disgraceful. Inhuman.
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Has anyone seen her video?

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Jan 30, 2026 10:22 am
I can't find it on the Fox9 website. :(

ICE violated at least 96 court orders in January
:---P Ironic that they're supposedly chasing "illegals".
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Looked to good to be true, probably AI.
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It's gonna happen again.

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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Jan 31, 2026 6:46 pm
It's gonna happen again.

https://x.com/atrupar/status/2017659865733140587
It's happened before, many times. The only reason the nation cares now is because the victims were White and middle class.

Earning brownie points around the world :roll: :
Anger In Italy Over ICE Agents Going To Milan Cortina Winter Olympics
Italian politicians strongly criticised the presence of ICE in the country, highlighting how the image of the U.S. has been tarnished in recent months.


U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel will help protect U.S. delegations at next month’s Winter Olympics in Italy, causing a political uproar in the country....

HISTORY OF ICE DEPLOYMENTS

... “It seems sheer idiocy to me,” Maurizio Lupi, leader of a small centrist party in Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s governing coalition, told la Repubblica daily.

Giuseppe Sala, the left-leaning mayor of Milan, one of the cities co-hosting the Olympics, called ICE “a militia that kills”. Speaking to RTL 102.5 radio, Sala said: “It’s clear that they’re not welcome in Milan, there’s no doubt about it.” ...

‘IT’S NOT AS IF THE SS ARE ARRIVING’, MINISTER SAYS

Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani called for a measured response. “We’re not talking about the (ICE people) who were out on the streets of Minneapolis... It’s not as if the (Nazi) SS are arriving,” he told reporters at a Holocaust memorial event.
So, if it was Minneapolis ICE it would be . . .
:---P I agree.
... But Italia Viva, a centrist Italian opposition party led by former Prime Minister Matteo Renzi, said agents affiliated with ICE did not represent Italian values and should be barred entry.

The hard-left USB trade union said it would hold an “ICE OUT” rally in central Milan on February 6, to coincide with the Olympic opening ceremony.
:thumbup: ICE OUT of America!
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