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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Fires Back As 'Trump Country' Banner Flown Over Packed Rally
The New York congresswoman let the crowd size speak for itself as her Fighting Oligarchy tour with Bernie Sanders rolled into another Republican area.


... On Tuesday, Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez rolled into GOP-dominated Folsom in northern California, a city which sits within Republican Rep. Kevin Kiley’s district.

To underscore the point, a small plane was spotted overhead before the rally pulling a banner emblazoned with the words “Folsom Is Trump Country” in red letters.

The more than 30,000 people gathered at Folsom Lake College’s athletic track may have disagreed. Ocasio-Cortez certainly did.

“I heard that someone started flying a plane with a banner that said, ‘This is Trump country,’” she said to the crowd, prompting a chorus of boos.

She continued, “It sure don’t look like it today. I don’t think this is Trump country. I think this is our country. ”



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'Let's stand together,' Sanders and AOC's visit to Missoula draws packed stadium (with short video)

It’s not an election year, but an 83-year-old U.S. senator and 35-year-old U.S. representative are hitting the rally trail.

Roughly 7,600 Montanans crammed into the Adams Center in Missoula on Wednesday, with another 1,500 just outside the venue.

U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) continues his nationwide Fighting Oligarchy tour, joined by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York). The tour is primarily aiming for red states, including Montana where President Donald Trump beat then-Vice President Kamala Harris by 19.93%....

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They probably could have filled Grizzly Stadium, but April weather can be iffy in Montana.

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Another one of those porta potties marked leftists.
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GOP district in NJ erupts as out-of-state Democrat reveals how they lost election at anti-Trump town hall
Over 1,300 people in a Republican district of New Jersey turned up to a 'Benefits Over Billionaires' town hall event hosted by Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Cali.), who is among a handful of Democrats visiting GOP areas in light of many conservatives' refusal.


A Californian congressman flew from across the country to an unassuming Republican district of New Jersey to host a town hall in a jab at the local leader who has refused to do the same.

Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna turned out over 1,300 residents on Monday night in Bridgewater, where people of all stripes rallied around their mutual frustrations and fears about the Trump administration. Though New Jersey has historically been blue, it notably shifted in 2024 after Donald Trump only narrowly lost the state.

However, Bridgewater is located in New Jersey's 7th congressional district, which has been led by Republican Rep. Tom Kean Jr. since 2022 after beating Democratic incumbent Tom Malinowski....
"Over 1,300 people"!!!

Ro Khanna represents California's 17th congressional district - south of the SF Bay, Santa Clara and southern East Bay possibly including Useless.

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A blow-up chicken mascot holds up a 'Missing' poster mocking Republican Rep. Thomas Kean Jr. of New Jersey's 7th district for refusing to host an in-person town hall.

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Aaron Fisher:
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Protester stands up to National Guard: Trump 'laughs at you'
This White Guy Protesting ICE Somehow Gave The National Guard The Most Humbling Speech You've Ever Heard, And It's Just So, Soooo Good

... In the face of continued ICE raids, escalation by law enforcement, and displays of police violence at protests, the people of LA continue to show up to defend the immigrant communities that truly define the city. One protester in particular has gone ultra-viral for his brave confrontation of a group of California National Guard officers stationed outside the Los Angeles VA Clinic. The clinic is part of the complex that houses the LA Federal Building and the Metropolitan Detention Center, one of the focal points of the protests....

The original video alone has been viewed over 350,000 times, but it's been reposted by countless news outlets and social media users. COURIER posted it to their TikTok, where it currently has 3.4 million likes and a staggering 18 million views (and counting). As you can probably imagine, people were moved by the protester's courage and powerful words.

A ton of people thought this was a display of true patriotism.
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Many thought he should be running for office right about now....
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He got my respect
Real patriot right here
This is the most powerful thing I have seen on the net all weekend. #revolution
With the LA kings hoodie on
That’s a TRUE American speaking! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Ice is getting bonuses 💵💵💵💵 for doing this. They sold their souls.
Long live the resistance. Power to the people.
Wow! Powerful
Bravo!!!👏🏽 Well said!!📚👍🏽🇺🇸
Speaking truth 👍🏽👊🏽
We must fight back!!
When tyranny becomes law rebellion is the only option
My respect for his bravery of standing up for our rights and saying everything that needs to be said !
Thank you, brother.
I really hope his message reaches even just one person but the reality is, they don't think they're on the wrong side of history. They believe they are saving the country.
He's so hot for that. This is the energy we need from men
When we say masculine energy, this is what we mean!
How beautiful and sexy is a man that protects and stands up for others. This is the energy!
did this guy keep getting hotter and hotter the more he spoke, was it just me?
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I agree. He would be a perfect democrat candidate.

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No, he'd be a perfect American candidate. But he would not be anywhere near a perfect fascist candidate.

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neoplacebo (to smarmy SoupySales) wrote:No, he'd be a perfect American candidate. But he would not be anywhere near a perfect fascist candidate.
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City of San Fernando removes statue of Cesar Chavez

Dolores Huerta opens up about Cesar Chavez abuse allegations: 'It was very hard to keep this'

:( He was a hero to me and tens or hundreds of millions of others around the world.
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OK, so give him an asterisk.
But like Pete Rose, et. al., publicly pretending the guy didn't exist doesn't erase his accomplishments.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:42 am
OK, so give him an asterisk.
But like Pete Rose, et. al., publicly pretending the guy didn't exist doesn't erase his accomplishments.
Are there other rapists we should excuse? What does Lady O think of CC now?
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 12:35 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:42 am
OK, so give him an asterisk.
But like Pete Rose, et. al., publicly pretending the guy didn't exist doesn't erase his accomplishments.
Are there other rapists we should excuse? What does Lady O think of CC now?
I didn't say "excuse" - add the allegations to his bio, but what are you gonna say, "some unknown person or person who shall remain nameless led a movement that revolutionized the agricultural industry"?

Or maybe give him name hint treatment "C***r C**v*S" like anybody wouldn't know who you're talking about.

He was also very autocratic in his leadership and some would say somewhat of an asshole, but his accomplishments still occurred.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 2:13 pm
Vrede too wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 12:35 pm
O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 10:42 am
OK, so give him an asterisk.
But like Pete Rose, et. al., publicly pretending the guy didn't exist doesn't erase his accomplishments.
Are there other rapists we should excuse? What does Lady O think of CC now?
I didn't say "excuse" - add the allegations to his bio, but what are you gonna say, "some unknown person or person who shall remain nameless led a movement that revolutionized the agricultural industry"?

Or maybe give him name hint treatment "C***r C**v*S" like anybody wouldn't know who you're talking about.

He was also very autocratic in his leadership and some would say somewhat of an asshole, but his accomplishments still occurred.
I never said anything about "publicly pretending the guy didn't exist," so you're arguing with a straw man. Just as an asterisk isn't sufficient for unrepentant slavers, I hope history heaps great scorn upon rapists - CC, DonOLD, Epstein, Diddy (probably), Bill Cosby, etc - whatever their other achievements
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Hey sometimes straw men make better arguments than some real people :lol:

But I wasn't necessarily referring to your post. When you're renaming holidays, changing street names, etc over 60 something year old allegations about a guy that's been dead for over 30 years and can't defend himself, it might be good to apply some context. Not saying he didn't do it, and he probably did. But he also did all the things we've previously honored him for.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 4:13 pm
Hey sometimes straw men make better arguments than some real people :lol:

But I wasn't necessarily referring to your post. When you're renaming holidays, changing street names, etc over 60 something year old allegations about a guy that's been dead for over 30 years and can't defend himself, it might be good to apply some context. Not saying he didn't do it, and he probably did. But he also did all the things we've previously honored him for.
That's fine. Bill Cosby's TV shows, if they were being shown, are probably as funny as ever, but I won't be watching them.
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Have to wonder, though - how can you have a guy with documented record of "doing good" can be canceled and lose his commemorative streets and holiday over an old allegation (even assuming truth), and another guy convicted of sexual assault and pussy grabbing can keep his job in the White House and name stuff after himself.

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O Really wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2026 8:57 pm
Have to wonder, though - how can you have a guy with documented record of "doing good" can be canceled and lose his commemorative streets and holiday over an old allegation (even assuming truth), and another guy convicted of sexual assault and pussy grabbing can keep his job in the White House and name stuff after himself.
Sanity and decency would suggest that the pussy grabbing convict be an unemployed, unhonored scoundrel.
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Holidays, monuments, streets. What happens to Cesar Chavez’s legacy?

... U.S. Sen. Alex Padilla, D-California, the first Latino elected to represent California in the Senate, supported removing Chavez’s name from landmarks and institutions, according to spokesman Edgar Rodríguez. In 2025, Padilla introduced legislation to create the César E. Chávez and the Farmworker Movement National Park across Arizona and California. Rodríguez said Padilla would instead work to rename the legislation to honor farmworkers.

"Confronting painful truths and ensuring accountability is essential to honoring the very values the greater farm worker movement stands for – values rooted in dignity and justice for all," Padilla said in a statement.
Can government and others resist the calls from women and their allies to remove or rename honorifics much as Blacks and their allies have shed America of slaver/traitor honorifics? Should they?
What happens to this legacy and how history is reshaped by these allegations remains to be seen, although experts and labor leaders noted that Chavez's centralized power came at the expense of women, immigrants and others who made significant achievements for farmworkers nationwide.
Most of the nonpartisan organizations I've worked with have processes in place that encourage participation and preclude the rise of a charismatic leader.
"It’s unfortunate that Cesar’s legacy hangs over all of the really important work they did," said Matt Garcia, a Dartmouth College professor who wrote the 2012 history "From the Jaws of Victory: The Triumph and Tragedy of Cesar Chavez and the Farm Worker Movement," which chronicled some of Chavez’s abuses as a leader. "But it is the case he almost singlehandedly submerged what was an amazing movement in its time."

Garcia said the union facilitated Chavez’s unchecked power, failing to build democratic processes that could have protected those who were at odds with him....
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So, is nobody going to make any effort to verify the 60-year old allegations of a 94 year old woman? Assuming they're true, don't they deserve evidential validation? And if they're not quite true? Don't we have a couple of daughters running around out there somewhere with Chavez' DNA?

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O Really wrote:
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So, is nobody going to make any effort to verify the 60-year old allegations of a 94 year old woman? Assuming they're true, don't they deserve evidential validation? And if they're not quite true? Don't we have a couple of daughters running around out there somewhere with Chavez' DNA?
DNA matches would not prove rape, and Huerta only stepped forward after numerous other women had. I believe her. Even if it's all true I doubt any physical evidence remains.
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How many World War II veterans are left?
:shock: :crybaby:
As of 2026, there isn’t an exact live count, but the best estimates show:
🇺🇸 United States
Roughly 65,000–80,000 WWII veterans are still alive today �
Superlore
Other recent estimates (2024–2025) put it around ~66,000 �
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🌍 Worldwide
Globally, only a small fraction remain—likely well under 100,000 total �
Enviro Institute
📉 Why the number is dropping so fast
WWII ended in 1945 (over 80 years ago)
Even the youngest veterans are now about 98–100+ years old
The U.S. loses well over 100 WWII veterans per day �
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🧠 Big picture
About 16 million Americans served in WWII
In 2020, there were ~300,000 still alive �
Pew Research Center
Now it’s down to tens of thousands, and falling rapidly.
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He was born during Word War I. :o :-||
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