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Just asking, but is asking for "papers" considered an arrest?GoCubsGo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 1:11 pmExcept they're not.
And amazinglyICE arrests inside the U.S.: the numbers
The strongest recent evidence gives us a clearer picture of who ICE is arresting, although it does not provide a reliable exact percentage for undocumented status alone.
~40% No criminal record
Nearly 40% of ICE arrests during the administration's first year involved people with no criminal record, according to an internal DHS document reported by CBS News in February 2026.
~60% Criminal charges or convictions
Nearly 60% had criminal charges or convictions, but that includes pending charges, which are not proof of guilt.
13.9% Charged with or convicted of violent offenses
The DHS figures reported by CBS put this group at approximately 14%. This includes people with charges, not just convictions.
These figures cover ICE arrests nationally, including arrests away from the border. They are not a direct measure of the percentage who were undocumented., the "government" doesn't provide a number of undocumented arrestees vs documented.
Wonder why that is?
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Would you prefer illegally and unconstitutionally detained?supesalemgr2 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 1:18 pm
Just asking, but is asking for "papers" considered an arrest?
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Don't forget the unreasonable search and seizure. We have the right to not carry papers except when driving, and neither SoupySales nor I are ever challenged for papers.
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You obviously need to work on your tan.Vrede too wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 1:51 pmDon't forget the unreasonable search and seizure. We have the right to not carry papers except when driving, and neither SoupySales nor I are ever challenged for papers.
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Some would find their actions disturbing, but they are within their responsibilities.GoCubsGo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 1:27 pmWould you prefer illegally and unconstitutionally detained?supesalemgr2 wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 1:18 pm
Just asking, but is asking for "papers" considered an arrest?
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Being brown is not probable cause, which is what they would need for most ID requests.
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You obviously need to work on your DonOLD DoJ refreshers.O Really wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2026 2:39 pmBeing brown is not probable cause, which is what they would need for most ID requests.
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Illegal in any other time.
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Also:
White supremacy in action. Not even the courts are safe from its despicable tentacles.
Trump’s DOJ told a judge how to rule. Then it pulled her from court.
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The video clearly shows that unarmed and nonviolent Alex Pretti was executed.
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GoAG KeithGoAlex Pretti’s family says feds are still stonewalling efforts for justice
The parents of Alex Pretti, a US citizen shot and killed by immigration agents in Minneapolis in January, are accusing the Department of Justice of violating their rights under a federal victims' rights law, as they demand transparency and justice in their son's death.
In a July letter to Attorney General Todd Blanche — obtained exclusively by CNN — an attorney representing Michael and Susan Pretti wrote they have not received any substantive updates from the DOJ regarding an investigation into their son's death, and called the department's attitude toward the case "cruel."
"The government's pattern of conduct is not only unconscionable, but unlawful," the letter states.
Pretti's parents on Tuesday accused the federal government of "shielding Alex's killers" by not turning over the entire federal case file to state investigators.
"We will no longer stay silent about the actions of the Department of Justice in the 275 days since Alex's murder," Pretti's father, Michael, said in the family's first news conference since the 37-year-old ICU nurse's death.
... Federal investigators who briefly agreed to share their evidence with state law enforcement have since stopped cooperating, said Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who is leading a lawsuit against the Department of Justice.
"We are in litigation with the federal government right now to secure the rest of the remaining file, which they could give us this morning if they were inclined to do so, but it looks like we're going to need a court order. I'm sorry that it comes to that," Ellison told CNN's Sara Sidner Tuesday morning. "Any prosecutor can tell you, you can't go forward with half a file. You need the whole thing."
DonOLD's DoJ always LIES, always.... The Pretti family's attorney, Steve Schleicher, says they have heard nothing from the DOJ since sending their letter.
"I've never seen a family treated with such cruelty and disrespect," he said.
Pretti's death was captured in its entirety on video. Like some other incidents that occurred as a result of the Trump administration's ongoing immigration crackdown, the footage from Pretti's shooting differed from the version of events provided by the Department of Homeland Security.
Friendly Fire Barbie always LIED, always.Kristi Noem, then-DHS secretary, initially described Pretti as a "terrorist" who "attacked" officers after "brandishing" a weapon, though the video disputed those claims. White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller referred to Pretti as an "assassin" who tried to murder federal agents.
... At least 10 gunshots can be heard on the video.
... Pretti's death followed the fatal shooting of Renee Good on January 7 and the non-fatal shooting of Julio Sosa-Celis on January 14 by immigration agents during Operation Metro Surge. Those incidents prompted significant protests in Minneapolis and across the country for weeks.
... "No family should have to beg the U.S. government to do its job," the letter says. "And no government should act with such caprice." ...
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Meanwhile, the loser (who says he won) of Brazil's presidential election left Brazil for the US today. I bet he's having dinner at Mar a Lago this evening. trump loves these guys...the dad (the former president( is in jail for doing the shit trump tried to do here and the son is now reveling in a lying and whining love fest with trump. It's Twilight Zone level shit while trump spews nonsense about election fraud and weaponized justice.
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House arrestneoplacebo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 5:17 pmMeanwhile, the loser (who says he won) of Brazil's presidential election left Brazil for the US today. I bet he's having dinner at Mar a Lago this evening. trump loves these guys...the dad (the former president) is in jail for doing the shit trump tried to do here and the son is now reveling in a lying and whining love fest with trump. It's Twilight Zone level shit while trump spews nonsense about election fraud and weaponized justice.
From your lips . . .
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Fire flares up again at Hitler's Eagle's Nest retreat in Bavarian AlpsVrede too wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2026 2:57 pmFire largely destroys Hitler's former Eagle Nest retreat in Bavaria
Awww
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SCOTUS colludes:Vrede too wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 10:20 amAlso:
White supremacy in action. Not even the courts are safe from its despicable tentacles.
Trump’s DOJ told a judge how to rule. Then it pulled her from court.
Fascism Is here.
US Supreme Court denies immigration judges the power to shelve deportation cases
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Vrede too wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 5:31 pmHouse arrestneoplacebo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2026 5:17 pmMeanwhile, the loser (who says he won) of Brazil's presidential election left Brazil for the US today. I bet he's having dinner at Mar a Lago this evening. trump loves these guys...the dad (the former president) is in jail for doing the shit trump tried to do here and the son is now reveling in a lying and whining love fest with trump. It's Twilight Zone level shit while trump spews nonsense about election fraud and weaponized justice.![]()
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This may be the most un UN thing I've ever seen.
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GoCubsGo wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:56 am This may be the most un UN thing I've ever seen.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2115415254322610420
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Technically, but with big exceptions which someone should try explaining to Waltzo.Vrede too wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 12:39 pmGoCubsGo wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:56 am This may be the most un UN thing I've ever seen.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2115415254322610420Is the UN "America"?
Then again, you can explain it but that doesn't mean he'll understand it.
No. The United Nations headquarters building in New York is not a sovereign territory. It is located on U.S. soil, in Manhattan, and the United States retains sovereignty over the land.
However, the headquarters has a special legal status that gives the UN significant independence from ordinary U.S. jurisdiction.
U.S. sovereignty: The land remains within the United States. It has not become an independent country or a separate sovereign state.
Special legal privileges: Under the 1947 UN Headquarters Agreement, the United States must respect the UN headquarters district's inviolability. U.S. authorities generally cannot enter the premises to perform official duties without the Secretary-General's consent.
UN independence: The UN has authority to establish and administer its headquarters, subject to the applicable international agreements.
Not completely outside U.S. law: The headquarters' special status does not mean that everything occurring there is exempt from U.S. law. The precise rules depend on the issue, the people involved, and applicable agreements.
The agreement explicitly preserves U.S. sovereignty. The U.S. State Department's historical record explains that the headquarters' protected status “does not transfer sovereignty over United States territory to the United Nations.”
In short: the UN headquarters is protected international premises on U.S. territory—not sovereign UN territory.
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Thanks. Sounds like Waltz cannot enforce his "This is America" bluster. All hat, no cattle.GoCubsGo wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 1:26 pmTechnically, but with big exceptions which someone should try explaining to Waltzo.Vrede too wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 12:39 pmGoCubsGo wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2026 9:56 amThis may be the most un UN thing I've ever seen.
https://x.com/atrupar/status/2115415254322610420Is the UN "America"?
Then again, you can explain it but that doesn't mean he'll understand it.
No. The United Nations headquarters building in New York is not a sovereign territory. It is located on U.S. soil, in Manhattan, and the United States retains sovereignty over the land.
However, the headquarters has a special legal status that gives the UN significant independence from ordinary U.S. jurisdiction.
U.S. sovereignty: The land remains within the United States. It has not become an independent country or a separate sovereign state.
Special legal privileges: Under the 1947 UN Headquarters Agreement, the United States must respect the UN headquarters district's inviolability. U.S. authorities generally cannot enter the premises to perform official duties without the Secretary-General's consent.
UN independence: The UN has authority to establish and administer its headquarters, subject to the applicable international agreements.
Not completely outside U.S. law: The headquarters' special status does not mean that everything occurring there is exempt from U.S. law. The precise rules depend on the issue, the people involved, and applicable agreements.
The agreement explicitly preserves U.S. sovereignty. The U.S. State Department's historical record explains that the headquarters' protected status “does not transfer sovereignty over United States territory to the United Nations.”
In short: the UN headquarters is protected international premises on U.S. territory—not sovereign UN territory.
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