Ilhan Omar and the AK Senate Race

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Ilhan Omar and the AK Senate Race

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When the Omar story broke a few weeks ago I was surprised at how little outrage came from her congressional colleagues and the media. Now, it has come to me that the colleagues and media knew there may be substance to her possibly not being a citizen. They did desire not to be embarrassed.

As for the AK senate race, it is ugly for the challenger's campaign. There is debate if there is anything illegal. However, the political damage is significant.
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The issue of her citizenship has been examined at least once before during trump's first rodeo. No offense was noted and no charges were filed. I consider this new effort just another example of trump coming up with something he thinks will make his cult take notice. He engages in this type thing increasingly often.....James, Brennan, Comey, Cook to name a few. It's likely just more smoke and mirrors.

The Alaska situation has already been adjudicated by the Supreme Court of the state. The court directed the incumbent be so identified on the ballot. As far as I know, there's nothing illegal about another campaign encouraging another candidate to run in an election. Unless there's a law that says "nobody can do anything to intentionally create confusion relative to an election", I don't see what the problem is.

But have you heard about wjat Re[in;ocams are doing in MO? They are trying to "re do" the constitutional amendment the voters passed last year on abortion. Now the GOP state legislature wants to put the same issue up again for a vote, but they've called the initiative the identical name as last year's abortion initiative and they've flipped the language around so that is you voted "yes" on last year's initiative, if you vote "yes" on this new one, it means the opposite of what the prior year "yee" vote meant. This situation actually IS one where intentionally confusion is the intent. Aren't you outraged?
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It's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
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We shall see how this unfolds after the mid-terms.
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GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 10:37 amIt's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
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Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 10:37 amIt's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. Peltola is probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
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supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 10:37 amIt's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. Peltola is probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
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Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 10:37 amIt's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. Peltola is probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it.I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
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supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:18 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am
GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 10:37 amIt's like the left doesn't trust the Trump doj. I don't understand.
Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it. I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
Whose tactics?

Ftr, Peltola is denying any involvement with alleged trickery.
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Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:31 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:18 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it. I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
Whose tactics?

Ftr, Peltola is denying any involvement with alleged trickery.
Sorry. Meant to post "I have NOT claimed the campaigns tactics are illegal."
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supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 1:24 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:31 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:18 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm I tend to agree with you. probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it. I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
Whose tactics?

Ftr, Peltola is denying any involvement with alleged trickery.
Sorry. Meant to post "I have NOT claimed the campaigns tactics are illegal."
Cool. It's DoJ, DonOld and potentially the AK Gov who are on shaky ground.

The cleanest results will be if Sen Sullivan wins or if Peltola wins by a larger margin than alleged sham Sullivan's tally.

Has anyone seen what alleged sham Sullivan is saying about this whole brouhaha, and whether he's been actually campaigning? I haven't.

I had some sincere questions about local races for you here:
viewtopic.php?p=233282#p233282
Any interest in responding?
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Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:31 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:18 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:03 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 11:59 am Omar and AK are safe from DoJ, but Peltola (D) may not be safe from AK voters.
I tend to agree with you. probably in trouble. As for Omar, all depends what may or may not be found in the material in her home.
Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it. I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
Whose tactics?

Ftr, Peltola is denying any involvement with alleged trickery.
The legal beagles I've seen on the airways say this is a nothingburger, but if the governor tries to intervene it probably won't matter.
If Alaska Governor Mike Dunleavy refuses to sign the certification of the U.S. Senate election, it could create a serious constitutional and procedural dispute—but it would not automatically invalidate the election or give him the power to overturn the voters' decision.
There is an important distinction in Alaska: the governor does not actually certify the state's vote count. The director of the Alaska Division of Elections does that under state law.
The controversy is particularly significant because Dunleavy has recently suggested he might withhold his signature if Democrat Mary Peltola wins the Senate race against Republican Dan Sullivan.

What happens if he refuses?
There are several possible consequences:
1. The election results can still be certified by Alaska. Under Alaska Statute 15.15.450, the Division of Elections director must certify the candidate receiving the most votes after the state review. The governor does not have authority to simply substitute his preferred winner.
2. The governor could withhold the federal certificate. Federal law, 2 U.S.C. § 1a, says it is the governor's duty to certify a senator's election under the state's seal.
3. The winner could seek legal relief. A court could be asked to compel the governor to perform his statutory duty. The exact remedy and timing would depend on the litigation.
4. The Senate could decide to seat the winner anyway. This is particularly important. Under Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, the Senate judges the elections and qualifications of its own members. It has historically seated senators even when election credentials were disputed or incomplete.
Could Dunleavy actually keep Peltola out of the Senate?
Not permanently just by refusing to sign.
However, there is a potentially significant practical problem:
The Senate's new term begins January 3, 2027.
Dunleavy's gubernatorial term ends December 7, 2026.
Alaska's target date for certifying the election is November 25.
If Dunleavy refuses to sign, the matter could remain unresolved when the new Senate convenes.
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Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 1:45 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 1:24 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:31 pm
supesalemgr2 wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:18 pm
Vrede too wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 12:10 pm Here we go, the RepuQ AK Gov has refused to commit to certifying the election results. He may steal an election :x . Ftr, there is nothing illegal about recruiting sham candidates. Both parties have done it.
The governor should steer clear of the results. I'm pretty sure the voters will take care of it. I have claimed the tactics are illegal.
Whose tactics?

Ftr, Peltola is denying any involvement with alleged trickery.
Sorry. Meant to post "I have NOT claimed the campaigns tactics are illegal."
Cool. It's DoJ, DonOld and potentially the AK Gov who are on shaky ground.

The cleanest results will be if Sen Sullivan wins or if Peltola wins by a larger margin than alleged sham Sullivan's tally.

Has anyone seen what alleged sham Sullivan is saying about this whole brouhaha, and whether he's been actually campaigning? I haven't.

I had some sincere questions about local races for you here:
viewtopic.php?p=233282#p233282
Any interest in responding?
I heard a report this morning that he, the sham candidate, was missing in action. He has not been campaigning.
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GoCubsGo wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2026 1:53 pmThe legal beagles I've seen on the airways say this is a nothingburger, but if the governor tries to intervene it probably won't matter.
Thanks.


4. The Senate could decide to seat the winner anyway. This is particularly important. Under Article I, Section 5 of the Constitution, the Senate judges the elections and qualifications of its own members. It has historically seated senators even when election credentials were disputed or incomplete.


The RepuQ MN Gov and RepuQ US Senate delayed seating legitimately elected MN Sen Al Franken for 6 months in 2009 :roll: . The courts and ultimately SCOTUS had to force them to do the right thing.
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