Trayvon Martin
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Amazing the comments you get following an article like this - what, do only redneck bigots bother to post anymore? And those totally ignorant of the facts and law, at that?
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The law is if someone is killed wrongfully, someone's going to get a big payday.O Really wrote:Amazing the comments you get following an article like this - what, do only redneck bigots bother to post anymore? And those totally ignorant of the facts and law, at that?
Martin's parents didn't give a shit about him; until he got himself killed in an act of stupidity.
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"Got himself killed in an act of stupidity?" Exactly what act was that? Walking home? Being afraid of a guy confronting him? Tell us - Enquiring minds want to know.
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"Enquiring minds"? National Enquirer much?O Really wrote:"Got himself killed in an act of stupidity?" Exactly what act was that? Walking home? Being afraid of a guy confronting him? Tell us - Enquiring minds want to know.
Someone with a gun who identifies himself ....
Someone with a badass, gang banger attitude ....
you figure it out.
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Oh yeah, I forgot the part about Zimmerman "identifying himself." Seems the testimony was that he stayed in his vehicle, saw a neighbor kid walking in the rain and called out, "Excuse me...I'm Zimmerman, your neighbor from four houses down. Could I give you a ride home?" Martin then approached the car, opened the driver's door, and without warning and for no apparent reason, hauled Zimmerman out into the street, and began beating him over the head with his gun. Zimmerman, who was not armed, was able to take Martin's gun away from him and shoot him in a brave effort to save his own life. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Didn't he identify himself as "I'm not following you"?O Really wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot the part about Zimmerman "identifying himself." Seems the testimony was that he stayed in his vehicle, saw a neighbor kid walking in the rain and called out, "Excuse me...I'm Zimmerman, your neighbor from four houses down. Could I give you a ride home?" Martin then approached the car, opened the driver's door, and without warning and for no apparent reason, hauled Zimmerman out into the street, and began beating him over the head with his gun. Zimmerman, who was not armed, was able to take Martin's gun away from him and shoot him in a brave effort to save his own life. Yeah, that's the ticket.
After he had been following Martin.
"Hi, I'm just some random dude who's been stalking you."
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I wonder if nobody told homo the "gang-banger" pic of "Trayvon" was a fake. For example... http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp
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I wonder if facts make any difference to homophile. I'm sure he thinks that all black males who don't say "Yassuh, massuh" have badass gang banger attitudes.O Really wrote:I wonder if nobody told homo the "gang-banger" pic of "Trayvon" was a fake. For example... http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/martin.asp
I'm pretty sure his pea-brained bigotry doesn't stop with homosexuals.
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Personally , I don't give a rats ass about Martin or Zimmerman. Shit happens.Vrede wrote:Given this and homerfobe's oft expressed self-loathing latent homosexuality, maybe he's really a gay black.
You still a dumbass for thinking that those with anti-queer attitudes are themselves queer.
Maybe you're the one with the latent (if not open) queer desires and you're so disgusted with your self, you want to blame someone else?
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No surprise there. As far as has been reported, neither is a "queer." So why all the hostility toward Martin? "...Got himself killed in an act of stupidity..."homerfobe wrote: Personally , I don't give a rats ass about Martin or Zimmerman. Shit happens.
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Well, it's not like us queer-lovers thought up that here on our little forum. It's pretty well settled in psychoanalytic literature. If I had as much irrational disgust for any group as you do, I'd hie myself off to a shrink and find out why and if there's anything to do about it. Carrying all that around can wring the happy right out of life. Unless the group is rednecks, of course, and then total disgust is rational. You don't have to know any personally to know they're a bunch of slimey shit-sacks.homerfobe wrote: You still a dumbass for thinking that those with anti-queer attitudes are themselves queer.
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And it's not "those with anti-queer attitudes"; it's those with irrational, emotional, excessive, obsessive, out-of-the-ordinary "anti-queer" reactions ... like homophile has. Simply put, there has to be a reason behind the unhinged reaction.O Really wrote:Well, it's not like us queer-lovers thought up that here on our little forum. It's pretty well settled in psychoanalytic literature. If I had as much irrational disgust for any group as you do, I'd hie myself off to a shrink and find out why and if there's anything to do about it. Carrying all that around can wring the happy right out of life. Unless the group is rednecks, of course, and then total disgust is rational. You don't have to know any personally to know they're a bunch of slimey shit-sacks.homerfobe wrote: You still a dumbass for thinking that those with anti-queer attitudes are themselves queer.
Whatever is repressed is expressed.
In homophile's case, it just keeps going and going and going ....

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Dontcha love how the bigots are blaming the victim. After all, any black kid in the wrong neighborhood who fights back when being confronted by a gun-wielding idiot deserves to be shot dead, right???
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Zimmerman's defense is easily understandable to anyone who has seen "Chicago"
[GIRLS]
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you'd have been there
If you'd have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you'd have been there
If you'd have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
[BILLY (as Roxie)]
And yet we both reached for the gun
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes we both
Oh yes we both
Oh yes, we both reached for
The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun
Oh yes, we both reached for the gun
For the gun.
[BILLY AND REPORTERS]
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes they both
Oh yes, they both
Oh yes, they both reached for
The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun,
Oh yes, they both reached for the gun
for the gun.
[BILLY]
understandable. understandable
Yes, it's perfectly understandable
Comprehensible. Comprehensible
Not a bit reprehensible
It's so defensible!
source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/
[GIRLS]
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you'd have been there
If you'd have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
He had it coming
He had it coming
He only had himself to blame
If you'd have been there
If you'd have seen it
I betcha you would
Have done the same!
[BILLY (as Roxie)]
And yet we both reached for the gun
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes we both
Oh yes we both
Oh yes, we both reached for
The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun
Oh yes, we both reached for the gun
For the gun.
[BILLY AND REPORTERS]
Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes they both
Oh yes, they both
Oh yes, they both reached for
The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun,
Oh yes, they both reached for the gun
for the gun.
[BILLY]
understandable. understandable
Yes, it's perfectly understandable
Comprehensible. Comprehensible
Not a bit reprehensible
It's so defensible!
source: http://www.lyricsondemand.com/
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Great article. Thanks for finding it and sharing. It seems that Zimmerman's father has now written an "ebook" that is available for all of us to read. He contends:Vrede wrote:"...Emmett Till and Trayvon Martin, two black teenagers felled by violence..." - similarities and differences
Good article, I had not thought of the connection.
Dontcha love it? George is being charged and tried because the racism.In the chapter, "Who Are The True Racists," according to Think Progress, Zimmerman uses words like "pathetic," "self-serving" and "disgrace" when describing the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP and Martin's funeral director, among others. He says he believes they are promoting a racist agenda in the United States and around the Martin case.
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Zimmerman's toast. That joke left a bad taste in thinking people's mouths.
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He broke the first rule of joke telling.
Know your audience and the situation.
You don't tell a dead baby joke at a young child's funeral.
You don't tell legless dog jokes to someone in a wheel chair or a member of PETA.
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Juries.
I saw a video of that, and I can't believe that guy.
Zimmerman is in a world of hurt with this guy representing him.
I can understand that, for whatever reason, he wanted to break the ice with the jury, but that one sure fell flat.
As a recovering joke teller, here's how I would have tried it:
It's that kind of a joke.
Know your audience and the situation.
You don't tell a dead baby joke at a young child's funeral.
You don't tell legless dog jokes to someone in a wheel chair or a member of PETA.
You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Juries.
I saw a video of that, and I can't believe that guy.
Zimmerman is in a world of hurt with this guy representing him.
I can understand that, for whatever reason, he wanted to break the ice with the jury, but that one sure fell flat.
As a recovering joke teller, here's how I would have tried it:
Can't promise that it would work, but if it did work, it would really work.Ladies and gentleman of the jury, we've been asking you a lot of questions here, but I have just one more.
(pause}
What do you call a dog with no legs?
(pause while it sinks in an wait until they start looking at you for the answer....then shrug)
Doesn't matter.
It won't come anyway.
(pause for reaction)
And that, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, is what the prosecution's case against my client is.
A dog with no legs.
(start opening statement)
It's that kind of a joke.
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I'm not a litigator, and know next to nothing about criminal law. But - I have no idea what that idiot must have been thinking to offer up a lame joke when his client is on trial for murder, facing a loooong sentence. IMNVHO, Zimmerman never had a chance in this deal anyway. Who owned the gun? Who was the pursuer after being warned off? Who got out of his car? Who is dead? But there are some arguments that could have re-framed the story into one more favorable to Zimmerman. Maybe pick up somebody on the jury who has a personal fear of young black guys in hoodies, whatever. That "joke" didn't help. Zimmerman is doomed. And, IMNVHO, rightly so.
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Hoo-boy. Judge is letting in Zimmerman's previous bunch of calls to the cops...
Also on Wednesday, Judge Debra Nelson ruled that jurors in the second-degree murder trial will be allowed to hear phone calls Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, made to a Sanford Police non-emergency line in the months prior the shooting. The calls were placed between August 2011 and February 2012.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06 ... snhp&pos=1
Also on Wednesday, Judge Debra Nelson ruled that jurors in the second-degree murder trial will be allowed to hear phone calls Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch volunteer, made to a Sanford Police non-emergency line in the months prior the shooting. The calls were placed between August 2011 and February 2012.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06 ... snhp&pos=1