Billy Graham suggesting Mormons are a cult.

[Crock Hunter]

So you're still saying that gravity and vacuum are the same thing...

Never did say that, .

LMAO... yes you did and are just too stupid to know it...

Page # lizard boy...?

Sure thing Randy.. The Nitwit said...

[blackfoot]

Sure thing Randy.. The Nitwit said...

Ahhhh.... and you tried so hard. Sorry son, maybe next time. You sure read into things don't you lizard boy.

[Bungalow Bill]

That is one definition of supernatural. Another is 'of or relating to an order of existence beyond the
visible observable universe.' Either one works for me, though the latter is more what I had in mind.
The fact that the origin of the universe may not be completely explainable at this time doesn't mean it
never will be or that because it is not now explainable that there is a explanation for it outside of
natural law. Since the present universe is explainable by natural laws, why bother with the supernatural?

[AntiAlias]

That is one definition of supernatural. Another is 'of or relating to an order of existence beyond the
visible observable universe.' Either one works for me, though the latter is more what I had in mind.
The fact that the origin of the universe may not be completely explainable at this time doesn't mean it
never will be or that because it is not now explainable that there is a explanation for it outside of
natural law. Since the present universe is explainable by natural laws, why bother with the supernatural?

Why, to troll people of internet forums, of course.

[Bungalow Bill]

I'm not all that familiar with the palmetto state wingnuts, and sometimes it's hard to tell the
difference between a troll and someone who is adamant about their opinion. Doesn't change my
mind, whichever it is.

[Crock Hunter]

You sure read into things don't you lizard boy.

"Read" being the key word.. of course that's something that you've clearly never developed a talent for.. .. otherwise you'd know the difference between Gravity and Vacuum.. ..

[blackfoot]

Since the present universe is explainable by natural laws, why bother with the supernatural?

Oh really..."explainable".....

"THEORYS" is the word you may want to look up.

Theory of evolution, Big Bang theory etc...etc...

[blackfoot]

You sure read into things don't you lizard boy.

"Read" being the key word.. of course that's something that you've clearly never developed a talent for.. .. otherwise you'd know the difference between Gravity and Vacuum.. ..

We both can read lizard boy, the only difference is I understand what I read.

Still waiting on that page number where I stated something about gravity and vacuum. Got to be hard to swim so fast from the truth huh....lizard boy...?

[perspctv]

You left out "mythical" this time, progress being made maybe?

It was implied.

I think your problem is with the word "hope". While most people refer to "hope" when discussing one's eternal destiny, you tend to place "hope" on the same scale as what tasty meal you may have for supper. Another attribute of Atheist, nothing in the way of spiritual sustenance.

While you tend to turn your meal into something imbued with magic. Delusion doesn't sustain but the deluded.

And what of the minority? Where ever there is a majority, there's a minority.

What of them - which minority?

What is obvious is that you fight really hard against something you don't even believe exist, or at least thats your claim.

I would point out the delusion and illogic if you claimed to use your belief in elves or unicorns to discriminate against others and tell folks how to live.

Me, I would never argue and attack the Easter Bunny, because it doesn't exist, but you seem to thrive on attacking and arguing against something you claim to not even believe in. You have what is called the Don Quixote Syndrome.

If their were Easter Bunny loons trying to use their belief in His Furry Goodness to shape your life you might. My guess is you would be their High Priest.

Truth is, you nor any other Atheist for that matter will never disprove God, no matter how hard you try. At least with a believer, there is proof right before your eyes of an intelligent designer, that is if you understand the intricacies of creation, scientifically speaking.

You can't disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster. No one can disprove wasn't isn't. One cannot prove a negative. If you think otherwise, the Easter Bunny was offering through personal revelation a falsehood.

[perspctv]

There is only one time to question another's religious faith. When that religion seeks to prevent you from the free practice of your religious faith. That is exactly what Islam says. It is the only religion I know of that in its proper practice followers must prevent the practice of any other religious faith.

This is no more true than for that of Christianity.

Have you ever read the Bible?

[perspctv]

Blackfoot:

You lopped off this in your reply.

YOU: If a believer in God is wrong, then he is worm food and nothing really matters any way, now does it. Worm food is preferred over the Atheist outcome, according to religious writings..

So you are saying you one should believe due to fear? Tiresome.

What you voice/argue is a rendition on Pascal's wager. An Imam could argue just the same gambit. Should one claim to believe all religions equally to 'win' your wager. That is your best bet here, balskfoot. Using your offered 'logic', you should clearly be praying to Mecca six times a day as well. I bet you have been ignoring your Super Dude assigned duties.

If one falls for such temptation with rewards [Heaven! - with or without virgins] of salvation in order to "believe" in such a Super Dude. the results will be at best a faint, tattered and ultimately unwholesome belief. Weakly suggesting another or admitting oneself does or should feign belief, which is dishonest, is rather silly. Any such Super Dude, being just and omniscient, would be able to see through this feigned belief, thus nullifying the benefits of the wager. right? For your tactic to work the Super Dude must be willing to reward dishonesty and subterfuge. This is the Super Dude you worship?

Seeking to control others with fear and willing to reward dishonesty.

You aren't making much of a case.

Are you yet worshiping Allah?

If you follow your advice, genius, you should. Do as you say and not as you do?

[blackfoot]

If their were Easter Bunny loons trying to use their belief in His Furry Goodness to shape your life you might. My guess is you would be their High Priest.



You can't disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster. No one can disprove wasn't isn't. One cannot prove a negative. If you think otherwise, the Easter Bunny was offering through personal revelation a falsehood.

Who is trying to shape your life by their belief system? Please tell us all so we can be warned as well. (Paranoia comes to mind.)

And me disprove the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Why would I try to disprove something that doesn't exist? That's your problem meatball, you are fighting something that doesn't exist, at least it doesn't in your mind, or does it? Hmmmmm.....

PS, pray that the Flying Spaghetti monster helps your spelling and Grammar...amen.

[Bungalow Bill]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

[bannination]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

Or in this case, anonymous forum trolls.

[blackfoot]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

You mean like the Mesopotamian astronomers? Or maybe you mean the early Egyptian astronomers, or mathematicians, or doctors of medicine? Or perhaps you are talking about the Persians who lead Persia to become a stronghold of Islamic science. All these "primitive desert dwellers" are responsible in many areas for modern science as we know it today.

[blackfoot]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

Or in this case, anonymous forum trolls.

What do you get when a forum troll starts his own forum?

[bannination]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

You mean like the Mesopotamian astronomers? Or maybe you mean the early Egyptian astronomers, or mathematicians, or doctors of medicine? Or perhaps you are talking about the Persians who lead Persia to become a stronghold of Islamic science. All these "primitive desert dwellers" are responsible in many areas for modern science as we know it today.

Too bad they didn't take the time to prove any supernatural claims.

[bannination]

I will take a persuasive, well-evidenced scientific theory over the mumblings of some primitive
desert dwellers any day.

Or in this case, anonymous forum trolls.

What do you get when a forum troll starts his own forum?

I give up what?

[Tertius]

There is only one time to question another's religious faith. When that religion seeks to prevent you from the free practice of your religious faith. That is exactly what Islam says. It is the only religion I know of that in its proper practice followers must prevent the practice of any other religious faith.

This is no more true than for that of Christianity.

Have you ever read the Bible?

I have. What would you like to discuss. Start a thread.

[Bungalow Bill]

The Egyptians and others might have done a little useful scientific work, while they weren't busy with
their fanciful gods, bizarre afterlife practices, and animal/human deities. So there was still a long way
to go on the path to rationalism. But I wasn't really thinking of the Egyptians or Persians, but of the
Israelites who came up with a lot of the supernaturalism that is still lurking around today.