Gun Legislation

[O Really]

107-year-old man killed in police shootout in Arkansas, authorities say

I wonder if they tried offering Metamucil first?

This is a sad story. But it did sound from the report that he kept shooting at them. If they knew he was very old, though, I wondet if they considered just leaving him alone for a while since "negotiations" were unsuccessful. I wonder if he knew he was "negotiating."

[O Really]

Yes, having decided to attack the cops may not have had a choice, but with a camera in the room and at 107 years old it probably wouldn't have been that long before he fell asleep. It's not like any innocents were still at risk.

Cops nowadays have little personal restraint or patience.

[O Really]

So if teachers were armed as some would like, I'm guessing there would have been another ground-standing killing.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09 ... cher?lite=

[neoplacebo]

I read this morning that Iowa is issuing firearm permits to blind folks. Some of the county sheriffs and some state legislators are not in favor of this, but as the article says, "the law" prohibits discrimination in issuance of firearm permits based on any "physical disability." Never mind common sense.

[bannination]

I read this morning that Iowa is issuing firearm permits to blind folks. Some of the county sheriffs and some state legislators are not in favor of this, but as the article says, "the law" prohibits discrimination in issuance of firearm permits based on any "physical disability." Never mind common sense.

[O Really]

How do you think he does it? I don't know!
What makes him so good?'

He ain't got no distractions
Can't hear those people yell,
Don't see blue lights a flashin'
Shoots by sense of smell.
Always has a reload,
Never turns to run.
That deaf dumb and blind kid
Sure fires a big mean gun.

(sorry, Pete)

[bannination]

They should at least equip the blind with fully automatic weapons. I mean..... they are blind.....and need the help.

[O Really]

Would it be possible for a person in a wheel chair to "stand his ground"?

[neoplacebo]

Would it be possible for a person in a wheel chair to "stand his ground"?

Certainly a point to consider, but I find myself wondering if there's a breath activated trigger available for those with more severe physical limitations. And if there's not, I expect the NRA to get right on it.

[O Really]

That, and a self-correcting motion control so that the Parkinson's people can shoot, too.

[Mr.B]

Opps!

[O Really]

Good idea here...why is there not an NRA group dedicated to assuring that black people have guns?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/0 ... ?ir=Comedy

[Mr.B]

Slide Fire, based in Moran, Texas.......

There's a country song in this somewhere.....c'mon Ray Stevens, you can do it...

[O Really]

Today's tragedy at the Navy Yard brings up a couple of interesting thoughts. First, it's too bad gunmen always attack "gun free zones" and that nobody was armed around there. Oh wait...
And about at least one unofficial guy who was armed? Got originally considered as a co-perp, a suspect. Opps.

[O Really]

According to reports so far, the shooter had a legal gun (except for the ones he took off of those he shot), and had a concealed carry permit, making him, according to Mad American's definition, one of the certified "good guys." He also had a history of, ummm, "irresponsible" use of his guns, and, according to his father, an "anger management" issue. So we're all OK with letting guys with anger issues and a history of shooting up stuff keep their guns, right? Well, at least the small percentage of Americans belonging to the NRA, who have a severely disproportionate effect on legislation are good with it.

[O Really]

Thanks to the NRA and its sheep like Mad American those with documented mental illness can own unless they've been committed and those with a history of gun convictions can own unless they were felonies. Both apply to Aaron Alexis, the Washington Navy Yard shooter.

Not to nitpick (well, OK, to nitpick), but I don't think he was actually tried for the ceiling shot, nor for the tire shooting incident. Should have been, for both. Apparently the "opps" defense works well in Texas and the Seattle police apparently didn't pursue the property damage claim they could have. Here's a good commentary from Dallas... http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/colum ... r-look.ece

[O Really]

Turns out that LEOs are far less effective at weeding out bad apples than the gunhuggers would have us believe.

I don't think the gunhuggers actually care if bad apples are weeded out or not as long as they aren't personally inconvenienced.

But law enforcement can only screen for what they are allowed to, which is not much. On the other hand, it wouldn't be right to rely only on charges, not convictions, to deny permits. I think the point at which this long trail went off the track is when the Fort Worth cops let him slide with that lame-sounding excuse. I think even if the story was true and accurate, and it was an accident, that he still and undeniably discharged his gun inside a residence, causing property damage and scaring the hell out of the neighbor. That's worthy of some charge itself, unless Fort Worth doesn't have an ordinance against firing a gun into a residence (which as I think about it, may be the case )

[Boatrocker]

. . . Drive a car into a home for any reason other than a medical crisis and charges are a certainty . . . .

Not necessarily: LINK

[O Really]

As you've often argued, they get a pass regardless of the actual law. Drive a car into a home for any reason other than a medical crisis and charges are a certainty. If there wasn't such a climate in favor of laxity towards gunhuggers I think Seattle and Fort Worth would have both resulted in convictions, though still of misdemeanors thus still allowing possession.

I don't think the gunhuggers actually care if bad apples are weeded out or not as long as they aren't personally inconvenienced...

We've had nascarfan88 admit to criminal activity with a gun and several of our gunhugging posters clearly fail the mental stability test.

But part of the problem is that "mentally unstable" isn't necessarily violent. Nor is it necessary to be "mentally unstable" to have a penchant for violence.

[Boatrocker]

. . . Drive a car into a home for any reason other than a medical crisis and charges are a certainty . . . .

Not necessarily: LINK

He was charged, pleaded guilty and got 500 hours of community service and probation. Whether the sentence should have been stiffer is a different matter.

Yeah. Charged with little more than littering.