Obamacare

[RonJ]

Gosh. Funny how in two elections - and a majority of Americans agreed with this both times - the Republican Party wasn't able to find a single candidate in their own party who was better!

It's possible but ya gotta remember it's Republicans doing the choosing.

The Dems couldn't find anyone "better" either.....in fact, they couldn't have found anyone any worse.....

So, you're saying that no matter who the Dems picked the GOP candidate was sure to be worse. Cool.

Next time our strategy is to pick the most incompetent guy but can win a beauty contest....like the Dems did in 2008.

[RonJ]

The GOP had screwed things up so badly by 2008 with its sheer incompetence that winning was nearly a lock, and then along came Sarah. In its infinite wisdom, the GOP has done nothing but glorify incompetence since and incorporate into its fundamental being.

Depends how you look at it. Last time I checked, more Republicans control the House than Democrats....and governors, and state legislators. The farm teams are fully roster-ed up.

Obama is a lame duck already and the only thing he is able to do at this point is tweak policy within the executive branch around the edges. As of right now, there is a slightly better than 50/50 chance they'll take the Senate next year. Unlike Obama, they won't have term limits either. The presidential party will always take a hit when the economy tanks but that's not a "screw up" since the limited culpability that government had in the matter is rather shared between the parties.

[O Really]

The GOP had screwed things up so badly by 2008 with its sheer incompetence that winning was nearly a lock, and then along came Sarah. In its infinite wisdom, the GOP has done nothing but glorify incompetence since and incorporate into its fundamental being.

Depends how you look at it. Last time I checked, more Republicans control the House than Democrats....and governors, and state legislators. The farm teams are fully roster-ed up.

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Yeah, well, getting elected and screwing up are not mutually exclusive. In fact, sometimes they are sequential. You should know that from your Obama, ummm, "comments."

[Boatrocker]

. . . What our government DOES do, is negotiate bulk pricing on drugs. (You know, what Big Pharma's owned and operated Congressmen passed a law banning Medicare and Medicaid from doing.) . . . .

Amazing how many teabaggers defend such policies when Walmart does it, but squawk like ruptured parrots when it's suggested in reference to a single payer system.

[Boatrocker]

. . . The economy tanked after 12 years of GOP control of Congress, 8 years of WH occupancy and 6 years of both, and you can't point to a single thing the congressional Dems did or didn't do in 2007 that led to the start of the crash later that year. That said, please continue, I love it when screw-ups fail to admit that they are screw-ups.

Are you suggesting that facts and figures should trump KKKTeaOP bloviation and talking points?

[RonJ]

Depends how you look at it. Last time I checked, more Republicans control the House than Democrats....

Democrats don't "control the House" at all and Republicans have lost control of their own caucus.

Your right...Republicans own it outright...but lost control...I don't think so.

and governors, and state legislators. The farm teams are fully roster-ed up.

Yes, the GOP has gotten by with anti-democratic gerrymandering and voter-suppression but the demographics are rapidly swinging against it, while the straight white males refuse to allow it to change to reflect America.

Governor elections can't be gerrymandered. There are still more Republicans than Democrats...gerrymandering help make a clear distinction but if gerrymandering didn't happen, you'd still lose. Sucks when Republicans do what Democrats have done in years past, huh? As far as voter-suppression...that's a joke. There's no suppression. If you're commenting on voter-id laws...lets see...there's Medicare/Medicaid, S-CHIP, SNAP, Section 8 housing, free education, free school lunches, child care tax credits, Pell Grants, Social Security disability, Workers-Compensation, Unemployment Insurance,...and I'm sure I'm missing a few bennies....and a person can't afford a $20 ID every 4-5 years?? That's not a citizen...that's a parasite we're supporting. The majority of the public with exception of liberals aren't going to support your version of "voter suppression".

Obama is a lame duck already and the only thing he is able to do at this point is tweak policy within the executive branch around the edges.

That's silly, 3 1/2 years to go.

Really? Want me to spam you with articles that point to that fact? Republicans took Obama to the woodshed this year...sequester, the budget, gun control, who's controlling the immigration proposals now?, ....Obama hasn't led Congress on ANYTHING since his re-election. When Congress returns week after next, they've got Obama by the gonads. Republicans aren't going to let the country default but there will be additional spending cuts. And then there is ACA implementation...its unlikely it won't be bloody and the plan is already under 50% in popularity and will tank fast if it gets worse. Congress will spend the next year doing congressional oversight (as they should)--but no legislation, and then the election cycle hits..and nothing gets done. When the next Congress comes in, Obama will be down to his last 2 years. Let's see...last two years...Bush..Iraq War/economy, Clinton..something about a blue dress, Reagan...Iran Contra, Nixon...oh yeah!, he didn't get his last two years. I can't recall any meaningful legislation that a president got pushed through in the final years. Lame duck!!

As of right now, there is a slightly better than 50/50 chance they'll take the Senate next year.

The con RealClearPolitics has the Dems leading a "Generic Congressional Vote". Your prediction sounds like the dashed wishful con thinking of 2012 that resulted in Dem gains in the Senate.

Generic Congressional Vote--you're kidding me, right?? http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/07/15/nate-sil ... p-in-2014/

Unlike Obama, they won't have term limits either.

The GOP is doing an excellent job of ensuring a Dem successor.

The presidential party will always take a hit when the economy tanks but that's not a "screw up" since the limited culpability that government had in the matter is rather shared between the parties.

The economy tanked after 12 years of GOP control of Congress, 8 years of WH occupancy and 6 years of both, and you can't point to a single thing the congressional Dems did or didn't do in 2007 that led to the start of the crash later that year. That said, please continue, I love it when screw-ups fail to admit that they are screw-ups.

The GOP had control of the Senate from Jan 3, 2001 to June 6, 2001. Aside from those crucial months, Republican only controlled HALF of Congress throughout President Bush's term...facts, facts, fact...they tend to get in the way don't they? However, it was Republicans who balanced the budget in 1996 wasn't it?...Congress controls the purse strings and they controlled ALL of Congress from 1996 to 2001. They were ONE vote short of creating a balanced budget amendment too.

[O Really]

According to Health Care for America Now Representative Mark Meadows (R-NC11) is one of the destructive, unpatriotic Republicans in Congress threatening to shut down the government unless the Affordable Care Act is delayed or killed.

According to Meadows himself, too.

[neoplacebo]

Mark Meadows

[Troll Patrol]

Isn't it great having a conservative as our representative?

[homerfobe]

Obamacare Myths (again and still)

Impressive. Now, since you're in health care, tell us the truth about the elderly person who has been found to be with cancer or a heart condition--
or anything else that could be life threatening.
How high on a priority list would they be in getting the necessary care or treatment for their condition? Or would they be deemed too far gone to receive treatment and the treatment hey receive would be minimal? How about telling us why a patient who had a serious surgery might get sent home to recover in 1-2 days, rather than staying in the hospital to recover where they could get the proper post-surgery care?

And the list goes on. Are these just myths too? Or do we get to wait and see a "I told you so"?

[Ombudsman]

Obamacare Myths (again and still)

Impressive. Now, since you're in health care, tell us the truth about the elderly person who has been found to be with cancer or a heart condition--
or anything else that could be life threatening.
How high on a priority list would they be in getting the necessary care or treatment for their condition? Or would they be deemed too far gone to receive treatment and the treatment hey receive would be minimal? How about telling us why a patient who had a serious surgery might get sent home to recover in 1-2 days, rather than staying in the hospital to recover where they could get the proper post-surgery care?

And the list goes on. Are these just myths too? Or do we get to wait and see a "I told you so"?

Another stupid post. Do you have even the slightest idea what the Affordable Care Act is? If so then how do your questions relate to any aspect of it?

[homerfobe]

Now, about the GOP BS the article actually discusses?

I don't give a rats ass what the GOP discusses, or the braying Jackass party either for that matter.

[homerfobe]

Another stupid post.

Don't sweat it. We're getting used to you and your childishness.

[Ombudsman]

Another stupid post.

Don't sweat it. We're getting used to you and your childishness.

One more time Squirt, what do your questions have to do with the ACA? Can you respond semi-intelligently?

[homerfobe]

just as you are or soon will be on top of your socialist VA care, slacker.

You've already made us aware of your complete disdain for veterans receiving VA care. Your remarks are an insult and a slap in the face to every honorably discharged veteran who has earned the right for care at the nation's VA hospitals, including your looney liberal friends that so readily latch onto every word you say. Just because you weren't man enough to serve in the Armed Forces of The United States, you want to run down and badmouth anyone who did calling us slackers. Instead of serving your country, you were off protesting for some god knows what cause from saving horned toads and six winged mosquitoes to reforming dope laws.

OK Vrede's fellow libs, do you agree with me on this? If you served in the military, do you consider yourself a Socialist VA Care Slacker?
Are you proud of your service, whether it was a 2,4 year stint or career? I'm damn proud of my past and I hold nothing but the highest regard for the men and women who were and are brave enough to enlist, whether they were/are desk jockeys or combat personnel.

Get a friggin' life Vrede. Your the slacker, not to mention coward.

This is all you can manage after a thoughtful reply to your questions? Wow.

Now, about the GOP BS the article actually discusses?

I don't give a rats ass what the GOP discusses, or the braying Jackass party either for that matter.

:?: :?: :?: You must have had some reason for replying to my link. Did you forget what it was?

No I didn't forget. I told you what I felt. Sorry you're so in bed with politics.

[homerfobe]

Now we know why Vrede's such a dick. Just found the cause of his mental state.




Continued next week. Time to leave. It's been fun

[Boatrocker]

. . . Your remarks are an insult and a slap in the face to every honorably discharged veteran who has earned the right for care at the nation's VA hospitals, including your looney liberal friends that so readily latch onto every word you say . . . .

"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." Samuel Johnson

[bannination]

Obama care and a government shutdown..... wow, republicans just pissed away their chances for reelection.

[bannination]

It was a lousy day at work. Obamacare sucks.

LOL

I wish those that are against it would at least articulate why they are against it. Every time I ask I get that deer in the headlight stare.



I even asked over at CPF...... the question was either ignored or blah blah it's too expensive, which we all know isn't true, if anything it's an unknown, and it's certainly more expensive to do nothing.

[Bungalow Bill]

I'm sure Meadows would be happy to give an answer, though I'd triple
check his numbers. Hold steady Harry, until you see the first teardrop
fall from Johnny's eye.