Gun Legislation

[O Really]

Come on, O....do you have to throw a monkey-wrench into every thing?
Ommy knew I wasn't serious where about where he could seek free help.

Not intended to be a monkey wrench, Mr.B. But your joke with O-man would have been the same of you had just said he should seek help at his local shrink's office.

Real people having psychiatric problems and no access to professional help isn't a joke.

[Ombudsman]

Not intended to be a monkey wrench, Mr.B. But your joke with O-man would have been the same of you had just said he should seek help at his local shrink's office.

I'm not sure anyone was surprised at his inability to be clever.

[Boatrocker]

Come on, O....do you have to throw a monkey-wrench into every thing?
Ommy knew I wasn't serious where about where he could seek free help.

Not intended to be a monkey wrench, Mr.B. But your joke with O-man would have been the same of you had just said he should seek help at his local shrink's office.

Real people having psychiatric problems and no access to professional help isn't a joke.

Speaking of which . . .

[neoplacebo]

Which begs the question; one partially fulfilled underwear bomber.....how come we don't have to hand over our shorts?

[O Really]

Yeah, it makes a funny story. And yeah, it makes TSA look stupid. But bottom line, the traveler didn't get arrested or detained, suffered no real loss except for the toy gun, and some degree of reason did prevail. And I agree with those who say much of the TSA security process is unnecessary and ineffective.

But c'mon people - that's your life if your travel a lot. Learn to deal with it instead of bitching about every little thing. I very rarely have any problem at all at security, because I prepare for it. You know you're going to have to take off your shoes - don't wear a pair that are difficult to take off. You know you have to go through the scanner - put everything you have into your bag before getting into line. Get on the TSA pre-check list. Smile at the agents and carry a relaxed demeanor. It's not rocket surgery.

[Boatrocker]

. . . Learn to deal with it instead of bitching about every little thing . . . .

Gonna have to disagree on that point. It's too much like being a good nazi for my tastes. The whole TSA thing is a total and extraordinary waste of time and money and has made traveling by air an exercise in masochism. It's bad enough to expect the abuse heaped upon us by the airline; submitting to this collection of pure fucking asshole idiots that the TSA seems to screen for is not something we should do passively or quietly.
Just my opinion. I don't fly except for unusual circumstances.

[Crock Hunter]

First they came for the sock monkeys, and I did not speak out— because I did not own a sock monkey.. ..

[O Really]

. . . Learn to deal with it instead of bitching about every little thing . . . .

Gonna have to disagree on that point. It's too much like being a good nazi for my tastes. The whole TSA thing is a total and extraordinary waste of time and money and has made traveling by air an exercise in masochism. It's bad enough to expect the abuse heaped upon us by the airline; submitting to this collection of pure fucking asshole idiots that the TSA seems to screen for is not something we should do passively or quietly.
Just my opinion. I don't fly except for unusual circumstances.

I fly a lot. I'm not happy about all of it, and I usually follow a personal "6 hour" rule. If I can drive it in 6 hours, I drive. In the past 3 or 4 months or so, I've been through security in Asheville, LaGuardia, Newark, Ft. Lauderdale, National, Charlotte, SeaTac, and Green Bay - some more than once. Joining me in that experience were hundreds of thousands of others, joined by millions nationwide. In the vast majority of cases, travelers incur at worst a relatively minor inconvenience, most of which they should know to expect. Only on one trip (Newark) did I spend more than 20 minutes on line, typically less than 10. I've been wanded, scanned, and "groped," without running into the "asshole idiots" that must abound at the airports I don't go through, or who work on lines I missed. I'm on the TSA pre-check program and that helps a little but not much - mostly I don't have to take off my shoes.

They may have some unnecessary requirements - hell maybe any search and scan is unnecessary, but it's hardly "good nazi" to make your own life better by avoiding making the TSA guy's life harder. In addition to the "little gun," security checks found a bunch of real weapons in a recent week... http://blog.tsa.gov/
I think there are a lot of improvements in security checks that could be made, from the travelers' perspective, but in my experience it's not TSA who heaps the most misery on the travelers - it's the airlines themselves.

[Boatrocker]

. . . but it's hardly "good nazi" to make your own life better by avoiding making the TSA guy's life harder.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. And it's not about "making the TSA guy's life harder;" it's about not kowtowing to heavy-handed official abuse from the sort of morons hired by TSA. The facts of the story that started this conversation are clear: the TSA goon was an idiot.

In addition to the "little gun," security checks found a bunch of real weapons in a recent week.

As they did in the 30-odd years prior to 9/11, when they had only metal detectors, the same shitty attitudes and much, MUCH less unfettered power to harass the paying public.
The TSA is a nasty, grotesquely expensive joke.

[O Really]

We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. .

OK, but I find it interesting that you say you don't fly much, yet your experiences must have been truly horrible to have such a rage on for the check agents, while I fly frequently and have rarely run into the sort of "goon" you have. Of course, that might be because I'm a "good nazi" and you're "not kowtowing to heavy-handed official abuse from the sort of morons hired by TSA."

[Boatrocker]

Every flight I have had to take since 2004 has included some episode- sometimes as a participant, sometimes as a fortunate observer- of at least one TSA rent-a-cop being an idiot, an asshole or both. Every one. Without exception. In locations as diverse as San Diego, Denver, Houston, Atlanta, Philly and Charlotte.
I employ the same 6 hour rule, and only fly when mandated for business.

[O Really]

I guess I'm just lucky so far. To me, the TSA pales in its ability to dish out needless, mindless, and rude abuse compared to the NC license plate/title places.

[O Really]

http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news ... picks=true

Very good article on school security.

[O Really]

Come on, O....do you have to throw a monkey-wrench into every thing?
Ommy knew I wasn't serious where about where he could seek free help.

Not intended to be a monkey wrench, Mr.B. But your joke with O-man would have been the same of you had just said he should seek help at his local shrink's office.

Real people having psychiatric problems and no access to professional help isn't a joke.

Speaking of which . . .

More than 31, at least as of today. And still nothing...

[neoplacebo]

You bet'cha.

[JTA]

Red indicates higher rates of violent crimes per capita.



(Kansas State University Department of Geography)

South Jersey represent!

[neoplacebo]

SC, got you covered.

[JTA]

What's up with Delaware?

Delaware is the problem. That state brings nothing good to the table. It's like the New Jersey of the Northeast.

[neoplacebo]

What's up with Delaware?

Delaware is the problem. That state brings nothing good to the table. It's like the New Jersey of the Northeast.

Well, let's not get excited....how about George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers?

[JTA]

What's up with Delaware?

Delaware is the problem. That state brings nothing good to the table. It's like the New Jersey of the Northeast.

Well, let's not get excited....how about George Thorogood and the Delaware Destroyers?

That's the only thing they have going for them.