Chris Matthews says it's unconstitutional to challenge Obama

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Chris Matthews says it's unconstitutional to challenge Obama

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This week, MSNBC “star” Chris Matthews made the following statement, clearly speaking out of frustration as he watched President Obama wilt under the scrutiny of the second presidential debates where he was challenged repeatedly by Republican Mitt Romney.

“I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’”

Chris Matthews was angry with Romney challenging the president on his record during the course of an election to unseat him.

Imagine that.

Matthews should be angry about the president’s poor performance not with Romney’s tenaciousness in seeking the truth.

But here's the truth, that Matthews hasn't seemed to have learned: the respect you give is the respect you get. If the president wants respect than he better stop acting like a potentate and more like a president of the United States. Romney gave the president the respect he deserved at the debates and during the course of the election.

You would think Matthews would know what is in the Constitution and what is not.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it set forth that a president of the United States is above the people and cannot and should not be challenged. Is that not what a presidential election is all about – challenging an incumbent president on his record?

The Founding Fathers specifically limited the powers of the president and did not exempt a president from abiding by the laws of the land in the same manner and to the same extent as the average citizen.

America was founded because of our dissatisfaction with a monarchy run by kings and queens who were above the people. The problem is that Matthews thinks that not only he is above the people but President Obama should be as well.

The president of the United States in the Oath of Office swears to the following:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Prior to the debates mainstream media bigs could craft the coverage of the race as they saw it and in the manner they wanted to communicate it. The problem for them now is that they cannot tell the people what to think when they watched the debates themselves in real time and formed opinions without the need for explanation or editorializing. Their “power” over the people has been marginalized and the liberal media can’t stand it.

I have news for Matthews: there is no greater responsibility a president has than to preserve, protect and defend the Constitutional protection of a citizens’ freedom of speech -- presidents are neither immune from it nor protected from it.

I suggest that someone needs to stuff Chris Matthews' 2012 Christmas stocking with a copy of the US Constitution.


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Hey who's going to tingle his leg the next four years? Maybe Growly can do it. Ewww

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Colonel Taylor wrote:Hey who's going to tingle his leg the next four years? Maybe Growly can do it. Ewww

Gowdy ticle his leg? Don't think so! Now if you had said Graham, you might be spot on. :mrgreen:

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gongoozler wrote:This week, MSNBC “star” Chris Matthews made the following statement,
“I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’”

Matthews is another third rate commentator. MSNBC was started to out liberal CNN. It has but CNN's market has shrank so they have the far left few. When your target market is a segment of the population that establishes political correctness to advance anti-American ideas you get unconstitutional ideologist.

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Of course Matthews said no such thing, but what a person actually said never stopped the
nutters from making stuff up.

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Bungalow Bill wrote:Of course Matthews said no such thing, but what a person actually said never stopped the
nutters from making stuff up.
What did he say?

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What he said is right there in the fist post. The word unconstitutional doesn't appear. I'm
guessing what Matthews meant is that Mitt shouldn't be rude, but that ain't going to happen.
Anyway you look at it, it's just another wingnut let's make a mountain out of a molehill non-starter.

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BB, you're the nut here. Is there anyhting about the left you will not defend and make a butt hole out of yourself while doing so.

BB, the consumate mouth of the south who doesn't vote, has never had a self start thread, sits on the bench, never gets into the game, leads a miserable self made life style, and is an all around pious left wing nut elitist.

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Bungalow Bill wrote:What he said is right there in the fist post. The word unconstitutional doesn't appear. I'm
guessing what Matthews meant is that Mitt shouldn't be rude, but that ain't going to happen.
Anyway you look at it, it's just another wingnut let's make a mountain out of a molehill non-starter.

Romney wasn't rude, Obama was. If I were debating Obama and he interrupted me, I'd tell him to sit his ass down and shut up, and he would get his chance to speak when I was done. And I would continue with my statement.
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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I'm just pointing out that the wingnuts are up to their old trick of posting headlines that don't
match what was actually said. That's not exactly breaking news.

Coach, this is a forum, not a ballgame. Your amateur psychology is as funny as it is idiotic.

Still can't figure out what Obama meant when he was talking about the possibility of bigots
attacking and even killing Muslims. Well, you can't fix stupid.

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Bungalow Bill wrote:I'm just pointing out that the wingnuts are up to their old trick of posting headlines that don't
match what was actually said. That's not exactly breaking news.

Coach, this is a forum, not a ballgame. Your amateur psychology is as funny as it is idiotic.

Still can't figure out what Obama meant when he was talking about the possibility of bigots
attacking and even killing Muslims. Well, you can't fix stupid.
Please tell us what this means:

“I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’”

What does understanding the Constitution have to do with saying "you'll get your chance"?

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I took it to mean that he is president under the U.S. Constitution, he ranks higher than Mittman
and deserves the respect of the office, which is a rather silly thing to say, but it's not the same
as saying it's unconstitutional. It's still of no importance in the larger picture.

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Ragin Rebel wrote:
Bungalow Bill wrote:What he said is right there in the fist post. The word unconstitutional doesn't appear. I'm
guessing what Matthews meant is that Mitt shouldn't be rude, but that ain't going to happen.
Anyway you look at it, it's just another wingnut let's make a mountain out of a molehill non-starter.

Romney wasn't rude, Obama was. If I were debating Obama and he interrupted me, I'd tell him to sit his ass down and shut up, and he would get his chance to speak when I was done. And I would continue with my statement.
That would make you just as rude and classless as Willard. Obama didn't interrupt. He stood because Willard had asked a question that required a response, and Willard, to show how commandingly macho he really is, barked out "You get your chance in a moment."

If Obama had done that to Romney, there would be 8 billion more clueless wingnut blogs denouncing Obama. You whiners even made a mountain out of Michelle Obama's brief and indistinguishable hand clap.

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gongoozler wrote:
Please tell us what this means:

“I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’”

What does understanding the Constitution have to do with saying "you'll get your chance"?
It means you shouldn't act that rude and disrespectful to the President of the United States. It doesn't mean you can't debate him. It means you shouldn't show disrespect for the office, no matter who's in it. You don't do something so truly classless as to yell out "You lie" in the middle of the State of the Union . . . unless you're a Republican.

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Stinger wrote:
gongoozler wrote:
Please tell us what this means:

“I don’t think he understands the Constitution of the United States…He’s the president of the United States. You don’t say, ‘you’ll get your chance.’”

What does understanding the Constitution have to do with saying "you'll get your chance"?
It means you shouldn't act that rude and disrespectful to the President of the United States. It doesn't mean you can't debate him. It means you shouldn't show disrespect for the office, no matter who's in it. You don't do something so truly classless as to yell out "You lie" in the middle of the State of the Union . . . unless you're a Republican.
IOKIYAR. It's OK If You Are Republican. Then you're never to be held accountable for your personal actions.[/
quote]


Nonsense,
You liberals put such a spin on every issue you can without so much as an inkling of a mention to past performances by presidents that were clearly unpresidental. Want to tell us how Nixon got a pass? I know all of you will defend Slick Willie on the pass that he did get. Bush didn't get a pass. Obama is definitely getting a pass on every sleazy mis-step he takes. BTW, respect has to be earned, the president is included.

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Stinger wrote:Obama didn't interrupt.
ORLY?

Study: Obama Won Interruption Debate
http://cmpa.com/media_room_press_10_19_12.html

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keyboarder wrote: You liberals put such a spin on every issue you can without so much as an inkling of a mention to past performances by presidents that were clearly unpresidental. Want to tell us how Nixon got a pass? I know all of you will defend Slick Willie on the pass that he did get. Bush didn't get a pass. Obama is definitely getting a pass on every sleazy mis-step he takes. BTW, respect has to be earned, the president is included.
Only in the deluded mind of you rightwing extremists should Nixon have gotten a pass... and just what "pass" did Clinton get... ??

Seriously, there has never been another President that has suffered as much open and public disrespect from other elected officials as President Obama .. From Redneck Joe Wilson, Yertle the Turtle impersonator Mitch McConnell, to trailer-trash Jan Brewer, to Mittens .. .

Which bring us to your hideously arrogant "respect has to be earned, the president is included" .. President Obama DID earn respect by being duly elected to the office of the Presidency by a 52.9% margin.. Your mindless hatred for the man aside.. he holds the office of President and that office is due respect from all other elected officials... How arrogant of you to insist the President "earn" your respect.. .

Ahh but the simple mind of the conservative nitwit is now saying.. " Look.. Crock.. you just disrespected Wilson, McConnell and Brewer.. . See.. you do it too.. " But I am not an elected official taking part in a formal event..

Even then, as much as I despised President Bush's destructive policies... I wouldn't have interrupted a President's address to a joint session of congress .. .. That would be disrespectful..
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That would make you just as rude and classless as Willard. Obama didn't interrupt.

This was a Joke right, you don't really believe that Obama didn't interrupt do ya?

He stood because Willard had asked a question that required a response, and Willard, to show how commandingly macho he really is, barked out "You get your chance in a moment."

If Obama had done that to Romney, there would be 8 billion more clueless wingnut blogs denouncing Obama. You whiners even made a mountain out of Michelle Obama's brief and indistinguishable hand clap.

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gongoozler wrote:
Stinger wrote:Obama didn't interrupt.
ORLY?

Study: Obama Won Interruption Debate
Perhaps if Rmoney hadn't broken the debate rules that he agreed to so many times, he wouldn't have had to be interrupted... Then Rmoney has made it abundantly clear that "his kind" doesn't have to play by the same rules as do common folk.. .
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Crock Hunter wrote:
gongoozler wrote:
Stinger wrote:Obama didn't interrupt.
ORLY?

Study: Obama Won Interruption Debate
Perhaps if Rmoney hadn't broken the debate rules that he agreed to so many times, he wouldn't have had to be interrupted... Then Rmoney has made it abundantly clear that "his kind" doesn't have to play by the same rules as do common folk.. .
So if one person breaks the rules it's OK for everyone else. That's mighty liberal of you to let us know we should live in chaos.

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