Obama_Clinton_Murder_Cover-Up_Why

[Tertius]

The illogical leaps your poor little overtaxed mind makes are amazing to behold.

All this happened, and Obama did nothing. So it's his fault.

Well, little one, what happens if it's not Obama's responsibility to do anything?

What happens if it's the decision of State Department flunkies -- following the frickin' chain of command -- who are responsible for making the decisions are the ones making the decisions?

Your whole little house of delusional, illogical cards comes tumbling down.

You're making this huge assumption that Obama knew about all these things . . . an assumption completely unsubstantiated by any fact, by any knowledge of how giant governmental organizations work, by logic, by rational thought, or by common sense.

That's it.

Your whole argument is based solely on a lame assumption that only you are ignorant and illogical enough to believe.

Crawl back to your Freeper hole with all the other gullible dimwits.

You clearly have not been keeping up with the news on this event. Your post is nothing but ad hominem. When you say something is illogical you are only calling names. For your post to be anything other than petty name calling you must show either my argument is not valid or the premises are false. You never do either.

I believe everything I posted is verifiable from a number of media sources. Not opinion sources but sources based on facts.

You say I am ignorant. Well, everyone is ignorant only about different things. I have attempted to understand what went on that night. From the reports and a few people I know I came to a conclusion. Actually two, one that Obama set the gay man up; two Obama exercised a depraved indifference to the safety of the people under his authority.

Regardless the outcome is the same for men are dead. Two people were responsible for the policies and lack of reaction that resulted in their death. Those two people are Sec. Clinton and President Obama. To date both have seemed to accept the depraved indifference conclusion.

This is the essence of a uniform opinion about this event.

Doctor tomorrow so enjoy your day without my post.

[Reality]

Libya Attack Emails: White House Told Of Militant Claim 2 Hours After Benghazi attack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... d%3D224596

Anybody heard from Hillary lately?

[Reality]

No Vrede you try to sugar coat all of Obama's screw ups and when all else fails you resort to using the Bush analogy. The media that hammered Bush are now hammering Obama. Goes with the job.

[Colonel Taylor]

I for the life of me can't figure out why Obama just didn't come out the next day say it was an attack and we will investigate and just NOT LIE for weeks. Then he could have said a few days or weeks before the election we are sending troops, or a handful of folks to capture the terrorist. He would have gained points instead of losing for ALL the LIES. Maybe brought some together instead of dividing. I figure lying is first and foremost with this administration.

Libya Attack Emails: White House Told Of Militant Claim 2 Hours After Benghazi attack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/2 ... d%3D224596

Anybody heard from Hillary lately?

[Stinger]

The illogical leaps your poor little overtaxed mind makes are amazing to behold.

All this happened, and Obama did nothing. So it's his fault.

Well, little one, what happens if it's not Obama's responsibility to do anything?

What happens if it's the decision of State Department flunkies -- following the frickin' chain of command -- who are responsible for making the decisions are the ones making the decisions?

Your whole little house of delusional, illogical cards comes tumbling down.

You're making this huge assumption that Obama knew about all these things . . . an assumption completely unsubstantiated by any fact, by any knowledge of how giant governmental organizations work, by logic, by rational thought, or by common sense.

That's it.

Your whole argument is based solely on a lame assumption that only you are ignorant and illogical enough to believe.

Crawl back to your Freeper hole with all the other gullible dimwits.

You clearly have not been keeping up with the news on this event.

ROTFLMAO!!! I've been keeping you updated since you first posted this delusion. Your tripping over nonexistent Marines and Special Forces has probably been forgotten by you, but I still remember. Your short-term memory problems are probably the only thing that allow you to keep posting -- you forget how badly you screwed up on all your previous posts.

Your post is nothing but ad hominem.

Your delusion is nothing but unhinged speculation. We're still waiting for you to show one tiny shred of truth.

When you say something is illogical you are only calling names.

No, I'm not. A logical fallacy is a logical fallacy. Don't try to blame me because simple logic is beyond your grasp.

For your post to be anything other than petty name calling you must show either my argument is not valid or the premises are false. You never do either.

Sorry, Sally, but you just did it again. You can't prove a negative. That's a logical fallacy.

There's a flock of bigfoots having a pig roast in my backyard right now. You must either show that my statement is not valid or the premises are false. You never do either.

See how it works?

Plus, this is an adult forum. We go by adult rules, little tyke. When you post something and it is challenged, it's up to you to provide factual support for your contention.

So far, you have a big fat ZERO for support of your delusion.

That's how grownups debate. If you can't hack it, toddle on back to your Freeper blogs where no proof is never a problem.


I believe everything I posted is verifiable from a number of media sources. Not opinion sources but sources based on facts.

Well, once you got over your nonexistent Marines and Special Forces and a few other errors.

There's just one problem.

None of the factual information you posted supports your bullshit delusions.

We all know there was an attack in Benghazi and Ambassador Stevens was killed. We all know that there were statements about the attack being caused by the video. We all know that it was days or weeks before it was admitted that a militia attacked the media.

But none of that offers the slightest proof in support of your cockamamie delusion.


You say I am ignorant. Well, everyone is ignorant only about different things. I have attempted to understand what went on that night.

No, you haven't. You've attempted to come up with a way to blame Obama.

From the reports and a few people I know I came to a conclusion.

A conclusion sans proof. You and a few fellow Kool Aid chuggers got together and decided that Obama was gay -- without a shred of proof -- and that he set Stevens up to be killed -- again without a shred of proof.

That you clowns can so easily delude yourselves -- without a shred of proof -- is rather funny, but also a little alarming.

Actually two, one that Obama set the gay man up; two Obama exercised a depraved indifference to the safety of the people under his authority.

All without a shred of proof. All based on knee-jerk, unsubstantiated supposition. You should be proud of yourself.

Regardless the outcome is the same for men are dead. Two people were responsible for the policies and lack of reaction that resulted in their death. Those two people are Sec. Clinton and President Obama. To date both have seemed to accept the depraved indifference conclusion.

This is the essence of a uniform opinion about this event.

A uniformally stupid and uninformed delusion. This is held by such a tiny percentage of the populace that it doesn't even make Rush or Fox. It has to hide in whispered little corners so your relatives don't disown you and the attendants don't come and make you take your meds.


Doctor tomorrow so enjoy your day without my post.

Tell him or her to up your dosage.

[Reality]

Vrede said "Years later, unpatriotic revisionist, and so, so many cons still believe Shrub's lies. You one of them?"

Not only is Vrede the Editor in Chief she/he/it is now the Mind Reader in Chief.

You, Vrede, accuse others of still believing POTUS Bush while you believe everything Obama says. Have you had a chance to visit the 57 States or are you still looking for seven of them?

[Colonel Taylor]

Vrede said "Years later, unpatriotic revisionist, and so, so many cons still believe Shrub's lies. You one of them?"

Not only is Vrede the Editor in Chief she/he/it is now the Mind Reader in Chief.

You, Vrede, accuse others of still believing POTUS Bush while you believe everything Obama says. Have you had a chance to visit the 57 States or are you still looking for seven of them?

You don't get it, libs have slips of the tongue, Cons lie. Libs don't lie they stretch the truth is all. cons lie. Libs drink ObamAd by the jug, FACT.
Vrede and Stinger getting their daily cocktail.

[Tertius]

Well I see these liberals are still sticking to the argumentative fallacy of two wrongs make a right. This is coupled with false statements.

Of course Marines customarily are trained and on site for diplomatic protection. It has been proven that Special forces were part of Libyan protection before ordered out. The order to stand down to the Marines came from the State Department. The order to stand down to he Special Forces came from the Department of Defense.

It is clear we had and still have troops located close enough that they could have joined the battle before it was over.

[Colonel Taylor]

With that said do you think Obama was going to leave the campaign/fundraising trail to save an Americans life.
Oh that's right he didn't he headed to Nevada for some Money.

Well I see these liberals are still sticking to the argumentative fallacy of two wrongs make a right. This is coupled with false statements.

Of course Marines customarily are trained and on site for diplomatic protection. It has been proven that Special forces were part of Libyan protection before ordered out. The order to stand down to the Marines came from the State Department. The order to stand down to he Special Forces came from the Department of Defense.

It is clear we had and still have troops located close enough that they could have joined the battle before it was over.

[Crock Hunter]

I for the life of me can't figure out why Obama just didn't come out the next day say it was an attack and we will investigate

Do you mean like these statements that President Obama said the day after the protests and attack.. ??

"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation,"

"We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. "


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Again you are proven wrong... and again not one of those facts will get through to you... .

[Colonel Taylor]

Gee you forgot about all the statements over the next two weeks that it was all about a movie trailer. Or that they knew NOTHING. Drink up there now!

I for the life of me can't figure out why Obama just didn't come out the next day say it was an attack and we will investigate

Do you mean like these statements that President Obama said the day after the protests and attack.. ??

"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation,"

"We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. "


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Again you are proven wrong... and again not one of those facts will get through to you... .

[Crock Hunter]

Gee you forgot about all the statements over the next two weeks that it was all about a movie trailer. Or that they knew NOTHING. Drink up there now!

But that isn't what you requested.. .. . you said...

I for the life of me can't figure out why Obama just didn't come out the next day say it was an attack and we will investigate

I shove the "facts" up your ass with.. ...

Do you mean like these statements that President Obama said the day after the protests and attack.. ??

"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation,"

"We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. "


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Again you are proven wrong... and again not one of those facts will get through to you... .

and then you cemented your position as Alpha-Weasel by trying to changing the narrative...

[Tertius]

I for the life of me can't figure out why Obama just didn't come out the next day say it was an attack and we will investigate

Do you mean like these statements that President Obama said the day after the protests and attack.. ??

"And make no mistake, we will work with the Libyan government to bring to justice the killers who attacked our people."

"No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation,"

"We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done. "


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Again you are proven wrong... and again not one of those facts will get through to you... .

If Obama had been working our four citizens would be alive to day.

Obama made that statement once. Thought about it and went into lie mode. A.K.A. his comfort zone.

[Stinger]

Well I see these liberals are still sticking to the argumentative fallacy of two wrongs make a right.

No. No one has said that. You just lied. Only a loser resorts to lying to try to buttress a losing argument.

You, on the other hand, have disingenuously tried the logical fallacy of requiring someone else to prove the impossible negative rather than standing with honor and integrity and supporting your own argument with facts.

You run from your own responsibility and then lie about what others have said. 100% loser.

This is coupled with false statements.

From you.

Of course Marines customarily are trained and on site for diplomatic protection.

Customary has nothing to do with this. There were never any Marines in this equation, regardless of your mistaken claim to the contrary.

I've already discredited your silly nonsense. Bringing it up again is not going to make it true.

It has been proven that Special forces were part of Libyan protection before ordered out.

No, it hasn't. That's another one of your factual mistakes. There was a 16-member security support team (SST) whose rotation was up.

Kind of childish for you to keep claiming that things have "been proven" when you have offered no evidence they are true.

The order to stand down to the Marines came from the State Department.

There were no Marines there. Repeating your lies is not going to make them come true.

The order to stand down to he Special Forces came from the Department of Defense.

There were no Special Forces. Repeating your lies is not going to make them come true.

There was no order to stand down. They rotated out on schedule.

What should have happened is that the request for an extension should have been granted. Then the SST would have been in Tripoli when the attack began.

Then, they could have arrived win Benghazi and abandoned the compound when they began taking mortar fire, just like the support that arrived from Tripoli had to do.


It is clear we had and still have troops located close enough that they could have joined the battle before it was over.

Some arrived from Tripoli but had to abandon the compound when they began taking mortar fire.

Any of the rest of your fairy tail is just more uninformed and misinformed supposition.

[Stinger]

If Obama had been working our four citizens would be alive to day.

If you had been working, our four citizens would be alive today.

One grandiosely false statement deserves another.

Obama made that statement once.

Really? When?


Thought about it and went into lie mode. A.K.A. his comfort zone.

Really? Post the lie he told.

Or, do your usual cut and run and pop back up later with one of your "It has been proved ..." lies.

A.K.A. your comfort zone.

[Stinger]

Gee you forgot about all the statements over the next two weeks that it was all about a movie trailer. Or that they knew NOTHING. Drink up there now!

Dolt, every piece of credible evidence shows that the militia was angry about the video and was attacking just like the mob in Cairo had done.

The only difference is that this was a somewhat-trained, more-heavily-armed militia.

Being an attack by a terrorist militia doesn't negate the fact that they were pissed about the video.

Why does such simple logic escape such simple minds?

[Stinger]

.He chose an ambassador that was known to be gay...

He chose the most qualified man for the job. Being gay has no bearing on anything unless you're a homophobe or a frickin' loon.

Stevens had been our Deputy Chief of Mission from 2007 to 2009. Perhaps Bush appointed the gay man to Libya to get him killed. You know how wild some of those parties were in Crawford. All that cattle and all those stumps.

Stevens had also Special Representative to the transitional government in 2011. He was the natural, most qualified choice when relations normalized to the point of naming an ambassador to Libya.

But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good delusion.

[Stinger]

...let's work one nut job accusation at a time. I thought we were still working the Obama let Stevens get wasted because he was gay accusation...

If even Reality thinks you're a wingnut . . .

What do you know? Really Butt Ugly agreeing with Bungalow Bill.

[Reality]

Nice try Verd; "If even Reality thinks you're a wingnut . . .

No you and especially Bungalow think Tertius is a wingnut. Your perogitive but you haven't determined if his post about Obama wasting Stevens is valid or not.

mama's post is right there in your so called wingnut land so why no respoonse from you or do wingnuts only reside on the right.

Let's prove or disprove that Tertius is a wingnut before we validate mama is a wingnut which shouldn't take long.

[Stinger]

Nice try Verd; "If even Reality thinks you're a wingnut . . .

No you and especially Bungalow think Tertius is a wingnut. Your perogitive but you haven't determined if his post about Obama wasting Stevens is valid or not.

Well, since all credible evidence and common frickin' sense goes agin it, we're going to say it's not true.

He hasn't presented one single shred of evidence that it is true.

That means you have to JUST BELIEVE -- something you low-level cons excel at.

mama's post is right there in your so called wingnut land so why no respoonse from you or do wingnuts only reside on the right.

Let's prove or disprove that Tertius is a wingnut before we validate mama is a wingnut which shouldn't take long.

We've pretty much done that. All proof is against him. None supports him. He's had two or three days, and not a single shred of support. That would clue in even your lower double-digit IQ's. Sorry you haven't gotten it yet.

If you say that it's still credible just because he believes it's true, then let me introduce you to some more loons who think September 11th was an inside job, that there actually were WMD's in Iraq, that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

There are any number of loons out there.

I can say that Romney has an evil spirit named Bugly who controls his mind.

Are you going to ask that we prove or disprove it? Are you going to say that it's true until disproven?

When something's far-fetched, asinine, beyond belief, and doesn't pass the sniff test, intelligent people will wait for proof that it's true. They won't just chug the Kool Aid. They don't hold that it's true until someone disproves it.

I just spoke to you in a foreign language, didn't I?