The Religion Thread

[Mr.B]

"....are you just being whiny and dishonest again?.....you want gays to be lessor (sic) citizens.....your obsession with the gay.....You clearly don't understand consent.....You prefer a harsher Big Brother.....Try to make sense.....You advocate discriminatory law and policy......False witness.....you think law and policy should be enforced against gays.....you didn't get the clear message.....Your "logic" fails.....you don't know....

'bout time you got your mess back here....Banni ain't no fun to bicker with; not that you're more fun than a barrel of monkeys..
(oops! a racist remark just slipped out.....didn't mean to speak ill of your ancestors)

[Mr.B]

"Atheists aren't "offended by the sight of anything religious", though most are amused."
Wrong again. An atheist complained he was offended by the sight of Bibles placed in base housing on a Naval base. The Dept. of the Navy ordered them removed; the uproar from the public caused them to reverse the decision. The atheist could only pizz and moan in his mind that was clouded by the offensiveness of the moment...in addition, he was not amused by the decision. Next "false witness"...?.

"They are offended by the demands of Christians (mostly) that religion be subsidized by taxpayers. Are you really confused about this or are you just being whiny and dishonest again?"
I've not seen anything demanding such....are you really confused about this or are you just being whiny and dishonest again.....or did you just pull that one out'n your butt? Why aren't Christians allowed to be offended by homosexual perversions to be allowed under the law?

"It's not Christians "freedom" to insist on government support, it's parasitism."
It's not homosexual's "freedom" to insist on government support, it's parasitism and perversion.

[Mr.B]

"All the ways that you want gays to be lessor citizens in law and policy, for example. You are guilty by discrimination."

Not in any way more than atheists and homosexuals wanting religion completely removed from our society so that they won't have to hear about their hatefulness and deviated lifestyle. Deny it all you like...it's like you say...tick tock.

[Mr.B]

You say that (I, we) Christians "want to force our beliefs into law for the rest of us".... if (I, we) believe that homosexuality is a perversion, why should those who participate in these perversions want to force their lifestyles into laws for the rest of us?
No one wants "to force their lifestyles into laws for the rest of us". You will never be forced to marry a man. Try to make sense.
They may not "want to" , but it's already happening; as you say...tick tock....and no one will never force you to attend church or read the Bible either...try to make sense.


child-sex, bestiality, etc.; should those laws be deemed unconstitutional one day in the name of that "pursuit of happiness" thingy?...
You clearly don't understand consent. That's exactly how rapists and pedophiles are, yuck.
I understand consent; you favor a child should be able to give consent for an adult to have sex with them? That's exactly how rapists and pedophiles are, yuck.

You are correct when you say "everyone is worshipping their own god; a god that totally agrees with him or her"; the God-haters are aware what they're doing is wrong in the eyes of society and their Creator; they chose their lusts as their god;

It's just sex between consenting adults. It's only your obsession with the gay version that makes it "lusts" while your straight sex is not.
It's a perverted lustful act between two of the same sex. I'm not obsessed with it; who started this thread? There's your "obsessor". I'm merely responding with my opinions as well as you are. Guess that means you're obsessed with gay-sex too, huh?

they and their supporters want everyone to agree with them.

No one cares if you agree, just stop insisting on discriminatory law and policy.
Standard answer; "no one cares if you agree (or disagree)". I've not insisted on anything.

Banni originally wrote.....you know what it was..... along with my reply.

[bannination]

"All the ways that you want gays to be lessor citizens in law and policy, for example. You are guilty by discrimination."

Not in any way more than atheists and homosexuals wanting religion completely removed from our society government so that they won't have to hear about their hatefulness and deviated lifestyle. Deny it all you like...it's like you say...tick tock.

How are people both Christians and atheists alike making you any bit a lessor citizen? What right have they taken from you? Let's hear it.

I'm kinda curious about why "god" created people with both sexes, and how are they to know which is the "right" one?

[Mr.B]

"Mr.B can't logically think about this topic at all."
I think I'm holding up very well, thank you.

"He knows he's just a bigot that has too much time on his hands to be concerned with other peoples private matters."
That remark makes no sense at all....you wanna re-think that and.....never mind; I forgot about you and 'thinking'.

"Just ask him what Jesus said about the ghey and lessy sex and watch him squirm."
You won't see me squirming. Just because Jesus said nothing, doesn't mean it's OK.
He said nothing about eating boiled okra either.

[bannination]

"Mr.B can't logically think about this topic at all."
I think I'm holding up very well, thank you.

"He knows he's just a bigot that has too much time on his hands to be concerned with other peoples private matters."
That remark makes no sense at all....you wanna re-think that and.....never mind; I forgot about you and 'thinking'.

"Just ask him what Jesus said about the ghey and lessy sex and watch him squirm."
You won't see me squirming. Just because Jesus said nothing, doesn't mean it's OK.
He said nothing about eating boiled okra either.

If he said nothing, it doesn't mean it's bad. Whoops.

[Mr.B]

"All the ways that you want gays to be lessor citizens in law and policy, for example. You are guilty by discrimination."

Not in any way more than atheists and homosexuals wanting religion completely removed from our society so that they won't have to hear about their hatefulness and deviated lifestyle. Deny it all you like...it's like you say...tick tock.

"How are people, both Christians and atheists alike, making you any bit a lessor citizen?"
I've not said they were. I'm happy with my position.

"What right have they taken from you? Let's hear it."
Again, I've not stated that I've lost any right. My complaint is that the *government* is legalizing perversion. I wouldn't want my kids taught that "loving ( ) relationships" between two of the same sex is normal.

[Mr.B]

"If he said nothing, it doesn't mean it's bad. Whoops."

If you saw your kid(s) stealing something, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!
If you saw your kid(s) cheating, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!
If you saw your kid(s) pick up a wallet with money in it off the street and stick it in their pocket, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!

Get the point?

[bannination]

"If he said nothing, it doesn't mean it's bad. Whoops."

If you saw your kid(s) stealing something, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!
If you saw your kid(s) cheating, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!
If you saw your kid(s) pick up a wallet with money in it off the street and stick it in their pocket, and you said nothing about it, does that mean it isn't "bad"? Whoops!

Get the point?

Completely, you don't get your morals from Jesus or the bible. It's a horrible source of moral guidelines. You hate on gays because it's a personal thing, and has nothing to do with religious beliefs.

[homerfobe]

You hate on gays because it's a personal thing, and has nothing to do with religious beliefs.

You weren't talking about me, but if you were you would be absolutely right. Now back to the oh so righteous one. How many times have I read where he said he hated faggots, queers, twat twinkies, cross dressers, trannies and so on? None, idiot. I do believe he's sincere in his religious beliefs, and you idiots want to cherry pick the fact that Jesus said nothing about being a filthy perverted coggzucker. How friggin stupid can you be.
And Vrede, where do you get the idea that demands are being made to have your tax dollars support religion? You probably don't pay taxes anyway, cliaing your deductions for donations to faggot organizations. And I noticed how you conveniently picked out the phrase 'forced'. Your right, no one is forcing anyone to adopt a queer lifestyle, but the goddam queers want us to accept their nasty filthy lifestyle as a loving relationship. Horseshit! Let 'em go marry a goddam dog if they want to act like a dog.

"That one is about haters that oppose equal rights and tolerance. It's you, and earlier homerfobe, that have continually insisted on posting about the gay-sex act that you're obsessed with. We don't discuss it at all." How can you argue for faggots if you aren't arguing about their right to have nasty filthy sex with others of the same sex, Dildo-Breath?

[bannination]

You hate on gays because it's a personal thing, and has nothing to do with religious beliefs.

You weren't talking about me, but if you were you would be absolutely right.

At least you're honest about it. That's more than I can say for Mr. B.

[bannination]

"...how do you explain one planet...

Trillions of possibilities, and you don't know that it's only "one planet".

Gotta wonder why there is such an unimaginable number of planets as well.

[Mr.B]

"You hate on gays because it's a personal thing, and has nothing to do with religious beliefs."

So my pointing out your nonsensical remark that because Jesus said nothing, it's OK; and using those 'whoops' scenarios is only me "hating on gays"?
You're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

"Almost all of your posts here are corny jokes or about God, me and your other obsession, gay-sex. Meanwhile, the rest of us discuss a wide variety of topics."

If you don't like my (or the other's "corny jokes"), don't read them...stay away from the 'Just For Fun' thread; you ain't got no sense of humor anyway; you're just a bitter old crony who thinks the world is victimizing you.....poor thing.

As far as any obsessions; quote: "It's you, and earlier homerfobe, that have continually insisted on posting about the gay-sex act that you're obsessed with.
We don't discuss it at all."
'False witness'.....you're the one with "gay-sex" obsessions, you accuse me yet that expression is in practically every one of your posts when you reply to me.
FWIW, the mere thought of "gay-sex" is nauseating.

As far as your "wide variety of topics", the most you post are petitions and griping against the least little thing that you think is going to magically make this world a better place.

I've got earth-shattering news for you: Your copy & pasted petition links, your screaming for 'gay' equality, bad cops, good cops, gun control, global warming, accusing others of being or thinking whatever you can imagine, and all that other anti-this and anti-that bantering you post is not going to be make any differences that you can realize in your lifetime. You're nothing more than a fly speck on the wall of time...you did nothing fantastic before you were born, you'll do nothing spectacular during your lifetime, and the world will continue on after your remains are long turned back into dust. Deal with it...you're not any better than anyone else here or anywhere else in this huge universe. Flap your trap all you wish.

[Mr.B]

"Gotta wonder why there is such an unimaginable number of planets as well."

Uh-huh....but how many of them do you know are inhabited and has just the right elements to support life forms that are highly intricate in design?

Let's make this easier....how many in just our own solar system are inhabited?

My point is Banni, that Earth is in just the right position from our sun to support life. The spheres surrounding Earth each serve a separate function to protect and maintain life. Every living creature on Earth has a body design specific to it's function and ability to survive......

I could go on, but you're not a complete idiot, and I know you know where this is going.....therefore science has yet to convince me that some slime-ball that crawled out of a mud-pit and took to walking and breathing an atmosphere with just the right mixture was responsible for the beginnings of life on this planet...That slime-ball did not nor could not have been responsible for the other elements required to sustain life; even science has admitted that. They've still not explained that "missing link".

One day, they may find other inhabited planets; they haven't yet, and they're now searching unimaginable distances from Earth with no success.

[bannination]

"Gotta wonder why there is such an unimaginable number of planets as well."

Uh-huh....but how many of them do you know are inhabited and has just the right elements to support life forms that are highly intricate in design?

Let's make this easier....how many in just our own solar system are inhabited?

My point is Banni, that Earth is in just the right position from our sun to support life. The spheres surrounding Earth each serve a separate function to protect and maintain life. Every living creature on Earth has a body design specific to it's function and ability to survive......

I could go on, but you're not a complete idiot, and I know you know where this is going.....therefore science has yet to convince me that some slime-ball that crawled out of a mud-pit and took to walking and breathing an atmosphere with just the right mixture was responsible for the beginnings of life on this planet...That slime-ball did not nor could not have been responsible for the other elements required to sustain life; even science has admitted that. They've still not explained that "missing link".

One day, they may find other inhabited planets; they haven't yet, and they're now searching unimaginable distances from Earth with no success.

There's a lot of "God of the gaps" arguments there. I think the problem for you is that some day we will know, and you'll have to back pedal further, just as religious people have since the scientific method was invented.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis

[Mr.B]

"....some day we will know...."

Yeppers....for sure....

I personally don't think it'll be in our lifetime; but then again, we are not promised tomorrow.

[Mr.B]

"homerfobe makes jokes? Since when?
You're really obsessed with him, aren't you? Homerfobe is the not the only other poster here, and that's not who I was referring to.

"False witness, again. I rarely complain about being a victim of anything."
"False witness" again. Most recent: "Almost all of your posts here are corny jokes or about God, me and your other obsession..."

"Using the phrase "gay-sex" to describe your obsession is not posting about gay-sex, dummy.
Oh, so you just think it and it magically appears.....you're good!

".....I propose and take action to try to make it happen."
Perhaps this escaped you:
"I've got earth-shattering news for you: Your copy & pasted petition links.......and all that other anti-this and anti-that bantering you post is not going to make any differences that you can realize in your lifetime. You're nothing more than a fly speck on the wall of time...you did nothing fantastic before you were born, you'll do nothing spectacular during your lifetime, and the world will continue on after your remains are long turned back into dust."

"Lengthy whining ignored. You've made your claims about petitions before to rationalize your apathy, defeatism and feelings of impotence....."
And what has all your link postings accomplished so far? What world-wide changes have you and the link authors accomplished? How do you and the link authors propose to force ours and other foreign governments to force their populace to make radical changes? If there was a remote chance of any of this happening, it's sure not to happen in mine or your lifetime....Call yourself impotent, it ain't gonna happen overnight. .

"In contrast, you never suggest anything, anything to create change, you just whine about things you don't like. That's how victims are."
And your link postings isn't whining? Maybe I should have said boo-hooing..

[Mr.B]

You ran away again....OK...so you've "linked several that have succeeded"; why aren't all these success stories in the news? What have YOU been successful at getting changed? All you've done is whined about what should be done, how it should be done...now, when's all these great earth-shattering changes going to take place?

Again........"...you did nothing fantastic before you were born, you'll do nothing spectacular during your lifetime, and the world will continue on long after your remains are turned back into dust."

Good luck in avoiding that one.

[Mr.B]

"But, let's take one of your favorite topics, gays......."

Point proven....you're obsessed with gays.