The LEO thread

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NC HENDERSON RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00 11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00 11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00 11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00 2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00 2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,7.62 MILLIMETER 1 Each $138.00 2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE,7.62 MILLIMETER 1 Each $138.00 2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON SHOTGUN,12 GAGE 1 Each $150.00 10/25/2010

Could be worse.

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NC BUNCOMBE ADJUSTABLE WRENCHES 1 LT $1,118.00

Worse.
Gold plated adjustable wrenches??

[Mr.B]

NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00.....11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00.....11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00.....11/20/2006
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00.....2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 5.56 MILLIMETER 1 Each $499.00.....2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 7.62 MILLIMETER 1 Each $138.00.....2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON RIFLE, 7.62 MILLIMETER 1 Each $138.00.....2/10/2007
NC HENDERSON SHOTGUN, 12 GAUGE 1 Each $150.00.....10/25/2010

Could be worse.

Think maybe the former sheriff had a bipolar disorder....fer shure?

[Mr.B]

NC BUNCOMBE ADJUSTABLE WRENCHES 1 LT $1,118.00...

"Any guess what "LT" stands for?"

I'm guessing 'LOT', as in one lot of assorted wrenches. From looking at the price, I'm guessing not Big Lots.

[Mr.B]

Texas police chief shot dead during traffic stop

Reuters
By Kevin Murphy (Reuters) -

The police chief of a small south Texas town was shot dead during a traffic stop on Saturday, a county sheriff said.

Michael Pimentel died of multiple gunshot wounds suffered in a confrontation with a motorist shortly before noon in Elmendorf,
a rural community of about 1,500 people just southeast of San Antonio, said Bexar County Sheriff Susan Pamerleau.

“We don’t know exactly what ensued between the two individuals but it did result in the suspect firing a weapon that hit the chief several times,”
Pamerleau said.

Pimentel was taken by air ambulance to a San Antonio hospital where he died a short time later, she said.

Joshua Manuel Lopez, 24, was taken into custody on charges of capital murder of a police officer, Pamerleau said.
When Lopez was stopped, he was wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for graffiti, she said.

Pimentel was in his 60s and had served as chief for about a year and a half, Pamerleau said.
He was head of a small department that included a sergeant, two officers and several volunteer reserve officers, she said.

“This tragedy today reinforces the fact that our law enforcement officers’ jobs are dangerous and you never know what they might encounter,”
Pamerleau said. “Here was a quiet and peaceful community in south Texas that in an instant turned to tragedy."

Where's the public outcry? the riots? the looting? the demand "for justice"? Oh wait....never mind, the cop was white.

[O Really]

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Where's the public outcry? the riots? the looting? the demand "for justice"? Oh wait....never mind, the cop was white.

Umm, the shooter was arrested. Unlike some others we won't mention.
A criminal was acting like a criminal. That's not news.

A cop acting like a criminal is, fortunately, still news.

[Mr.B]

"Where's the public outcry? the riots? the looting? the demand "for justice"? Oh wait....never mind, the cop was white."

"Umm, the shooter was arrested. Unlike some others we won't mention. A criminal was acting like a criminal. That's not news.
A cop acting like a criminal is, fortunately, still news."

So the shooter was arrested...wow! So if a cop shoots a punk thug in self-defense, he should be arrested? The investigation isn't over yet; you already have him condemned.

The riots, looting, etc. began as soon as the news of the shooting of Michael Brown was released....because MB was Black, the cop was white.

Never mind the fact the cop had gotten beaten up prior to defending himself; overkill, yes; self-defense obviously not allowed. I don't believe the cop knew whether or not MB was armed. All the public wants to see is a Black kid shot by a white cop. That calls for stealing TV's, smartphones, furniture, alcohol, and anything else not nailed down.

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That calls for stealing TV's, smartphones, furniture, alcohol, and anything else not nailed down.

Thanks for reminding me how much I hate people.

Edwards: Why the big secret? People are smart. They can handle it.
Kay: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.

-MiB

[O Really]

"Where's the public outcry? the riots? the looting? the demand "for justice"? Oh wait....never mind, the cop was white."

"Umm, the shooter was arrested. Unlike some others we won't mention. A criminal was acting like a criminal. That's not news.
A cop acting like a criminal is, fortunately, still news."

So the shooter was arrested...wow! So if a cop shoots a punk thug in self-defense, he should be arrested? The investigation isn't over yet; you already have him condemned.

The riots, looting, etc. began as soon as the news of the shooting of Michael Brown was released....because MB was Black, the cop was white.

Never mind the fact the cop had gotten beaten up prior to defending himself; overkill, yes; self-defense obviously not allowed. I don't believe the cop knew whether or not MB was armed. All the public wants to see is a Black kid shot by a white cop. That calls for stealing TV's, smartphones, furniture, alcohol, and anything else not nailed down.

You might want to double-check that "cop was beaten up" part.

[Mr.B]

"You might want to double-check that "cop was beaten up" part."

The last I heard was that the cop had a cracked cheek-bone.

This is the most recent report I found: CNN

[O Really]

Keep looking... http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... _says.html

[O Really]

"Where's the public outcry? the riots? the looting? the demand "for justice"? Oh wait....never mind, the cop was white."

"Umm, the shooter was arrested. Unlike some others we won't mention. A criminal was acting like a criminal. That's not news.
A cop acting like a criminal is, fortunately, still news."

So the shooter was arrested...wow! So if a cop shoots a punk thug in self-defense, he should be arrested? The investigation isn't over yet; you already have him condemned.

The riots, looting, etc. began as soon as the news of the shooting of Michael Brown was released....because MB was Black, the cop was white.

Never mind the fact the cop had gotten beaten up prior to defending himself; overkill, yes; self-defense obviously not allowed. I don't believe the cop knew whether or not MB was armed. All the public wants to see is a Black kid shot by a white cop. That calls for stealing TV's, smartphones, furniture, alcohol, and anything else not nailed down.

It seems to me you may be putting a lot of diverse information or misinformation in an oversize mixed bag. While I may not be able to clarify your thoughts, I can at least clarify mine.
1. I'm not defending or explaining looting, rioting, etc. But that activity results from what people think - not necessarily what the facts are. And whatever the facts are, the Ferguson police handled it poorly and should have reasonably expected a less than enthusiastic response from the community. Some people will take advantage of any excuse to riot (often going into somebody else's neighborhood to do so). Isn't that something a well-equipped and trained force like the FPD should know?

2. There is a difference in an explanation of the situation Wilson faced and in the totality of his action. The totality of his action starts from the time he first initiated contact with the people in the street. Did he handle that first encounter correctly? I'm guessing not. Do people usually "bum's rush" a cop in the street in the middle of the day, or would they be more likely to run if they feared capture? Can a highly trained police officer create a situation in which he gets attacked and then claim he was afraid for his life?

3. Cops are allowed to shoot until the threat to them or to others ends. Did it really take eight shots to bring down the guy (two of which missed)?

4. I don't have Wilson "condemned." I don't even know if he did anything illegal. It is more than obvious from what has been found so far that he handled the situation poorly and killed an unarmed citizen. Then the FPD compounded the problem. There seems to be plenty of blame to go around, except for Brown, who is dead. But a lot of people are happy to blame Brown for his own death.

[neoplacebo]

Big high speed chase through downtown Hendersonville the other night; cops saw a couple of guys with open drinks driving around and tried to stop them; they take off right through downtown at about 1130 at night and finally their car quits; one guy runs with a gun in his hand; turns out he's a felon from Charlotte thinking he can come up here in my house and drive around and drink and wave his stupid gun around. Dumbass. Good job for cops in this one. Nobody got shot or even hurt.

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Big high speed chase through downtown Hendersonville the other night; cops saw a couple of guys with open drinks driving around and tried to stop them; they take off right through downtown at about 1130 at night and finally their car quits; one guy runs with a gun in his hand; turns out he's a felon from Charlotte thinking he can come up here in my house and drive around and drink and wave his stupid gun around. Dumbass. Good job for cops in this one. Nobody got shot or even hurt.

Wait, how are you posting this from jail?

[Mr.B]

"Big high speed chase through downtown Hendersonville the other night; cops saw a couple of guys with open drinks driving around and tried to stop them; they take off right through downtown at about 1130 at night and finally their car quits; one guy runs with a gun in his hand; turns out he's a felon from Charlotte thinking he can come up here in my house and drive around and drink and wave his stupid gun around. Dumbass. Good job for cops in this one. Nobody got shot or even hurt."

"Wait, how are you posting this from jail?"

Somehow t'other, I don't think this is our buddy neoplacebo........... ....

[neoplacebo]

"Big high speed chase through downtown Hendersonville the other night; cops saw a couple of guys with open drinks driving around and tried to stop them; they take off right through downtown at about 1130 at night and finally their car quits; one guy runs with a gun in his hand; turns out he's a felon from Charlotte thinking he can come up here in my house and drive around and drink and wave his stupid gun around. Dumbass. Good job for cops in this one. Nobody got shot or even hurt."

"Wait, how are you posting this from jail?"

Somehow t'other, I don't think this is our buddy neoplacebo........... ....

Yeah, I don't have any tattoos. I once thought of getting a bar code tattoo on the bottom of one of my feet but then thought "ah, nobody will even see it except the coroner."

[neoplacebo]

Oh look, not-neoplacebo is a Christian.

Others are similarly decorated, but not as committed to it:

Nah, if that were me I'd have something from the book of Revelation up there on my face; some of that certain death and utter doom stuff.

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How does a police department lose a Humvee?
Theft, fraud plague controversial Pentagon program spotlighted by Ferguson

Of all the crimes listed I think the biggest one is a PD for a town of fewer than 700 people wanting and getting two Humvees.

Gotta support those defense contractors I suppose.
:cussing:

[O Really]

Why Darren Wilson will walk... http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/04/us/ch ... picks=true

[Mr.B]

"Nah, if that were me I'd have something from the book of Revelation up there on my face; some of that certain death and utter doom stuff."

Never can tell...it may become a reality before you check out....

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)

16... And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17... And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.