The Religion Thread

[Mr.B]

"I don't believe God beaned Bean, but it does bring up an interesting question. What do church-goes say when their church is hit by lightning and burns to the ground? God took a shot at us? Or God helped us because nobody got roasted? God wasn't paying attention? God never liked the decor in that church anyway? I see on the news all the time that somebody gets into an accident and, upon climbing out of what used to be their car, says, "I could have been killed - God was looking out for me." My (real) question is, where was God when the truck was bearing down on him in the first place? To have any type of logic, one has to believe that either (a) God caused the accident; or (b) God wasn't paying attention."

Inasmuch as man is not promised a tomorrow, thanking God for sparing one's life is not completely out of order.

God is no respecter of persons; He would spare your life just as He would the life of one who is devout.

[O Really]

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God is no respecter of persons; He would spare your life just as He would the life of one who is devout.

So it's totally arbitrary, then?

[neoplacebo]

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God is no respecter of persons; He would spare your life just as He would the life of one who is devout.

So it's totally arbitrary, then?

Divinely, supremely, and definitively arbitrary. Anyone can be saved, spent, hoarded, exploited, exposed, brainwashed, whatever. Equal opportunity

[JTA]

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God is no respecter of persons; He would spare your life just as He would the life of one who is devout.

So it's totally arbitrary, then?

Divinely, supremely, and definitively arbitrary. Anyone can be saved, spent, hoarded, exploited, exposed, brainwashed, whatever. Equal opportunity

Calvinism!

[Mr.B]

"And, it's about your running away from how Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality"...... Are you now denying that Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality"?......I don't think that Christians who routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality" are funny at all.....even the ones that routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality"....

Do you think that by posting the same repetitive, dishonest whinings over and over is going to convince anyone here that you didn't ridicule the death of Ms. Bean because the chunk of concrete fell off a church? And if Christians do as you say, does that give you the right to ridicule the death of anyone?

You say "Christians routinely blame.......". Since you mingle so much among Christians, cite the source of this earth-shattering revelation you seem to have stumbled upon!

I mingle with more Christians in thirty minutes than you probably have in your lifetime, and I have never heard any "routine blaming" of deaths on lack of religious morals. FYI, devout Christians die in accidents as well as atheists, agnostics, semi-religious, Sunday 'Christians', Easter and Christmas 'Christians', etc. Because they die, is no reflection on their weakness or strength of faith.

You're simply to much of a wuss to admit that you screwed up, and you are desperately trying to shift blame on my postings as reasoning for your attempts to shine in the eyes of other posters. You can post all the whiny denials you like; you wrote it; you're not ashamed of it, own it.

[Mr.B]

"The other branches of the American military do not require the reference to God and make the phrase optional."
"This is the only branch to my knowledge that's actually requiring everyone in all instances to use the religious language,".....

Could be because when they're flying, they're closer to the Home Office than ground troops are......

"Just like Islamist militaries, right?"

I wouldn't think so. Deny 'Allah' and you fly no more; hard to fly with no head.

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Could be because when they're flying, they're closer to the Home Office than ground troops are......

So heaven is somewhere in space? :gayhappy: I'm kinda serious, is that what you guys believe?

[Mr.B]

"So heaven is somewhere in space? :gayhappy: I'm kinda serious, is that what you guys believe?"

I forgot you would be clueless on that remark, my bad.

[Mr.B]

"anyone", Mr.B? You're the only one whining about it, and it's especially pitiful since you unquestionably did mock a bereaved spouse because he's gay and have never manned up for it. You're the last person that should be throwing stones. This all about your lame and failed retaliation for having been shown to be that homophobic and crude."
Yes, "anyone"; and it's especially pitiful since you unquestionably did ridicule a victim of an accident and yourself have never manned up for it.
I would have "mocked" the choice of words of that "bereaved spouse" regardless of his sexual orientation; what he said was funny; people can make funny remarks at any given moment, you know......well, maybe you don't know after all; you're so high up on your soapbox and all.

"I exclusively ridiculed ugly Christians, as you know very well, and that's the only reason you care at all. You can't face that your ilk is no better than everyone else and you never have been able to."
I've never said that my "ilk" was any better than anyone else.

This world is full of ugly, hateful, and even murderous people; some even call themselves Christians, some the Army of God, some Westboro Baptist Church, etc.

"Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined morality." Let's start with Pat Robertson and Oral Roberts and their millions of followers, we've discussed here often the ugly things they've said. You're in denial or you're lying, again, in saying you "never heard" it."
Neither. I'm not a fan of Pat or Oral; never watch(ed) them, don't plan to start. As far as their off-the-wall comments; I don't recall ever hearing that somebody died and left them in charge of spouting off official comments for Christians.

"Of course death is "no reflection on their weakness or strength of faith", that's why the Christians that say it is are so vile. Are you finally starting to get the point?"
You wanna back up and regroup on that? What are you trying to say?

LOL, I didn't bring up your mocking of a bereaved spouse because he's gay in this tangent, you did with your very first post. It's hilarious that you're repetitively blaming me for it. If you can't stand the heat don't strike a match.
Uhhhh......speaking of "can't stand the heat"....You're the last person that should be throwing stones..

"Since you mingle so much among Christians......"

I thought for sure neoplacebo would bring up that 'Christian Mingle' thingy...

"Great timing, another Christian with millions of fans:"
Duck Dynasty’s Phil Robertson says AIDS, syphilis God’s penalty for gays
"Gonna keep claiming you "have never heard any 'routine blaming' of deaths on lack of religious morals," Mr.B?"

Hate to disappoint you; I don't watch Duck Dynasty nor follow it's 'stars' either; one less fan..... so no; I haven't heard any 'routine blaming'. Fail.

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"So heaven is somewhere in space? :gayhappy: I'm kinda serious, is that what you guys believe?"

I forgot you would be clueless on that remark, my bad.

Clueless? Um... no. Christians used to believe that (Surely you knew this???), I didn't know it was still a thing. Judging from your attitude about it I guess they've outgrown that idea? :?:

[O Really]

Clueless? Um... no. Christians used to believe that (Surely you knew this???), I didn't know it was still a thing. Judging from your attitude about it I guess they've outgrown that idea? :?:

Wasn't all that long ago apparently...

"Will the circle be unbroken
Bye and bye Lord, bye and bye
There's a better home awaiting
In the sky Lord, in the sky"

(Johnny Cash, among others)

And discussed by recent Biblical scholars... http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/heaven-location.html

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In other news: Heathen Gynandromorphs. Apparently they can screw themselves. That's a creature that has got to be straight from satan himself.

SCIENCE!

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More reading for Mr. B.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_cosmology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament

[Mr.B]

"In other news: Heathen Gynandromorphs. Apparently they can screw themselves. That's a creature that has got to be straight from satan himself."

Is that the newest name for "gays"? Seems that evolution thingy is working for them, don't it? As far as their origin.......... :thumbsup:

[O Really]

Duck trash talking...
http://www.webpronews.com/duck-dynastys ... ys-2014-09

In 1985, Pat Robertson says he prayed Hurricane Gloria away from his Virginia Beach headquarters; it swerved onto other unfortunate areas, but Robertson admitted no liability for his part in the changed trajectory. In 2006 he claimed that — aided by his protein shake (available for you to purchase) — he leg pressed 2,000 pounds. The New York Times says that at that time the world record was 1,335 pounds.

In 2001 Jerry Falwell blamed 9/11 on the ACLU, pagans, abortion providers, feminists, gays, lesbians, and People for the American Way. He said they had led “God to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve.” Pat Robertson and the terrorists agreed that we “deserved” it — but not for the same reasons.

[Mr.B]

"Mr.B translated: Despite their having TV shows and even entire networks along with millions of fans and having been discussed here many times, Mr.B has "never heard" any Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality". And, if he ever did hear them or anything else he doesn't like he would instantly deem them to not be "real Christians".

Of course, many Christians reading this blatant false witness would deem Mr.B to not be a "real Christian". Maybe atheists, agnostics and
nonChristians (sic) should move on, there aren't really any Christians after all."

So you're saying I'm supposed to be glued to my TV every time some so-called Christian programming is on the air? Again, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't watch any of the religion channels on TV; their opinions are their own, and believe it or not, those who watch them are not automatically in agreement with them. If a TV preacher is preaching the Gospel, I'll listen; if he's spouting opinions, mixing religion, politics, and laying blame, my attention is elsewhere.

As far as your saying "Despite.......having been discussed here many times, Mr.B has "never heard" any Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality"."

The only time I've ever "heard" any blame being laid down, was from you and your ilk, and you and your ilk for da*n sure ain't no Christians; I've not heard any such from anyone I hang with, past or present, and unless you've got more proof other than TV shows, I challenge you to provide such proof..... i.e, put your money where your mouth is.

"In 1985, Pat Robertson says he......In 2001 Jerry Falwell blamed....."

Who are they?

[neoplacebo]

"Mr.B translated: Despite their having TV shows and even entire networks along with millions of fans and having been discussed here many times, Mr.B has "never heard" any Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality". And, if he ever did hear them or anything else he doesn't like he would instantly deem them to not be "real Christians".

Of course, many Christians reading this blatant false witness would deem Mr.B to not be a "real Christian". Maybe atheists, agnostics and
nonChristians (sic) should move on, there aren't really any Christians after all."

So you're saying I'm supposed to be glued to my TV every time some so-called Christian programming is on the air? Again, sorry to disappoint you, but I don't watch any of the religion channels on TV; their opinions are their own, and believe it or not, those who watch them are not automatically in agreement with them. If a TV preacher is preaching the Gospel, I'll listen; if he's spouting opinions, mixing religion, politics, and laying blame, my attention is elsewhere.

As far as your saying "Despite.......having been discussed here many times, Mr.B has "never heard" any Christians routinely blame the victims of accidents or natural disasters if there's any blemish on their Christian-defined "morality"."

The only time I've ever "heard" any blame being laid down, was from you and your ilk, and you and your ilk for da*n sure ain't no Christians; I've not heard any such from anyone I hang with, past or present, and unless you've got more proof other than TV shows, I challenge you to provide such proof..... i.e, put your money where your mouth is.

"In 1985, Pat Robertson says he......In 2001 Jerry Falwell blamed....."

Who are they?

You mean to tell us that you've never heard or had any inclination to think or believe that any of your "ilk" have never, in your presence, placed blame for any general or specific societal ills that they believe are happening on "liberals." "gays," or any sort of politically or socially active organization? As a non believer, I must say I don't believe that.

[Mr.B]

"You mean to tell us that you've never heard or had any inclination to think or believe that any of your "ilk" have never, in your presence, placed blame for any general or specific societal ills that they believe are happening on "liberals." "gays," or any sort of politically or socially active organization? As a non believer, I must say I don't believe that."

I repeat; I've not heard anyone place blame....what anyone thinks, or what I would be inclined to think, is a different matter. Vrede's claim is that I'm lying because I've never heard any of my Christian "ilk" belittle the aforementioned in the name of morality. What I would think is irrelevant, it's not my place to judge why people do what they do....I can however, express my opinion.

We are aware that the Almighty Vrede is all-knowing; he follows me and others every where we go, and he knows that I'm a blatant 'false witness' (his latest word for liar) when I deny his claims of superior knowledge of the Christian community and their personal thoughts.

I'd say that I wish I was that smart, but I don't want to belittle myself.

[neoplacebo]

I'm pretty smart, but I know my limitations.

[JTA]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/09 ... 02532.html

British Female Jihadists 'Are Running Brothels Full Of Captured Sex Slaves For Islamic State Militants'

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British female jihadists are running 'brothels' where thousands of Iraqi women are being forced to work after being captured by Islamic State militants, it has been reported.

Shocking new details have emerged after it was revealed young British girls are behind an ultra-religious all female militia in Raqqa that is brutally punishing "un-Islamic behaviour" in the area, according to the Sunday Telegraph.

Sources now claim that the women, who travelled from the UK to marry militant fighters, have set up brothels for the IS fighters to use.

Whaaaat.