The homophobic thread :>

[O Really]

Any straight white couple with an unexpectedly biracial IVF child could be doing the same thing...

It wasn't a "straight white couple", it was two gays!

They were, but that's not relevant to their complaint. Any couple - white, black, asian, gay, straight, would have the same complaint if they found out their kid was of an unexpected different racial group. The only reason it made the news was because they were gay.

[O Really]

It was a mother or two parents, indago. As O Really and I have said, their orientation is irrelevant.

...The only reason it made the news was because they were gay.

I'm not sure you're right about that. It seems I've heard of this before and a different race donor is such an obvious screw up by the sperm bank, especially when a lawsuit is necessary to get justice, I think it's gonna be newsworthy regardless.

Yes, that's kinda my point. There have been others. You've heard it before and there may have been lawsuits. But their being gay makes it a bigger news deal. Not because the issue is different, but because it can get a bigger reaction - as we have seen here.

[indago]

Journalist Terry Shropshire wrote for The Atlanta Daily World 3 October 2014:
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[bannination]

Wow, something the Christians and Muslims can agree on: Kill the gays.

Rectums glued shut, force fed gasoline and set of fire. Sounds like some old testament crap going down.

https://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/20 ... et-alight/

[indago]

Journalist Terry Shropshire wrote for The Atlanta Daily World 3 October 2014:
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Are you that confused or just intentionally deceptive? She's saying that she and her partner don't object to the mixed race of their child, but:

...forced to move from Uniontown, Ohio, because of the hive of racial intolerance.

...wanted their child to bear some resemblance to them...

They thought they had selected a baby with blond hair and blue eyes. However, according to the lawsuit, the women did not get the sperm they ordered.

Cramblett said “we love her — she’s dream come true,” Cramblett said of her 2-year-old daughter, Payton. “For people to think I don’t want this child because of her skin tone is just not the case. It angers me that people would even think I don’t want my child.”

Payton isn’t completely white, Cramblett said the family will have to move away from their current home in Uniontown, Ohio — a place she described as white, conservative and too racially intolerant.

“This isn’t LA or New York. We’re not on the coasts. We’re in farm country,” Cramblett said. “That raises my concerns [for Payton.] Being a lesbian growing up in a small town, I went through a lot of things that were hard on me. I don’t want her to have to go through that.”

Cramblett said there are other reasons she wants to move daughter Payton. “I want her to feel very connected to all parts that that make up who she is. I’m not able to give her that part of heritage, and neither is anyone from her family,” she said to HuffPost, admitting that family members have no use for 2-year-old Payton.

Another reason for the move? Cramblett said since her daughter has curly, course hair, she has to drive far from where she lives and to an all-black neighborhood just so Payton can have her hair done properly...

Did you think I wouldn't check? Silly you. The only thing that isn't about race is their love for their child. What "it’s not about" is their sexual orientation (other than their knowing better than most what bigotry is) and we're still waiting for you to admit that.

I see; the actual participants in the situation are wrong, and you, a casual onlooker, are right, and you are calling them a liar.

[Mr.B]

"Back to homophobia:" The Export of Hate

"Hate"....haha...

The Sodomites will eventually win their battle, but not the war. I have no doubts.

World society is slowly moving to becoming a world-wide Sodom and Gomorrah......tick-tock.

[O Really]

"Back to homophobia:" The Export of Hate

"Hate"....haha...

The Sodomites will eventually win their battle, but not the war. I have no doubts.

World society is slowly moving to becoming a world-wide Sodom and Gomorrah......tick-tock.

I take it you're considering the "war" from a theological standpoint - sorta like the inevitable "wait 'til next year" wails of the losing team. It would make no sense to use the "war" from a real-life physical in the US standpoint. That war ended today. The rest is just technicalities.

[indago]

The only thing that isn't about race is their love for their child. What "it’s not about" is their sexual orientation (other than their knowing better than most what bigotry is) and we're still waiting for you to admit that.

The Affiant is GAY. Her family disapproves of her lesbianism. She is suing to, among other things, obtain enough money to move to a more accepting environment for her and her daughter. There is no amount of babblonious blustering on your part that will change these facts. In other words: You are pissing into the wind.

[O Really]

They might still be considering cases - and it's possible though unlikely they could pick the MIchigan case - but they won't be reconsidering on these. Once cert is denied, it's denied for a given case. North Carolina, et. al., who still have cases pending in lower courts will find those decisions made in accordance with the appeals ruling (for the Virginia case), and will fall into the "marriage equality" list. It is unimaginable, according to some who are far more knowledgeable than I, that the Supreme Court would let 30 states go merrily along marrying people and then say, "opps" If some appeals court decides to uphold a state ban, then the Supremes could take that one - and undoubtedly overturn the decision. But bottom line, the war for marriage equality is indeed over. The rest is just clean-up.

[indago]

There IS help for Gays...

Reparative Therapy

[O Really]

If they accepted a case, say, Michigan, and from that ruled that states could ban marriage equality, then yes, that decision would apply to everybody nationally. Nagonnahappen. Too many lower case decisions; too much reliance already on their DOMA decision. No remaining arguments for marriage discrimination that haven't been shot down numerous times, from several different facts and circumstances.

As to what they expected, knew, or are satisfied with - who knows? I wouldn't presume to guess how this crowd thinks. They are, after all, the ones who think corporations are people. But I think Roberts (and probably others) really is hesitant to make a national ruling before the culture caught up. I think the culture has pretty much caught up and they think they can avoid being known as the court who allowed gay marriage over every states' protests... or whatever.

[O Really]

Here's a good analysis.... http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... story.html

[Mr.B]

"Mr.B must be a little shaky about "the war." Otherwise, he wouldn't spend so much time and energy on the "battle" here and now."

Shaky....? Not even a "little".

The sodomites are digging their own grave; it's not my battle; hence I'm expending no energy, time, or effort aside from expressing my "hateful, bigoted, homophobic" opinions that get your step-ins all in a wad. :cussing:

[O Really]

Somewhat real question: Is it only the actual "sodomites" who are going to Hell, or will those who think the sodomites ought to be treated equally under earthly law also be sent there without passing "Go"?

[indago]

WindPisser wrote:

Sigh, the article says, "that family members have no use for 2-year-old Payton," not, "disapproves of her lesbianism," though that may be the case.

Your other article says, "The couple had actually relocated from Akron to the less-racially diverse town of Uniontown because there would be better schools, but now those schools might present a bigger challenge for Payton’s academic and psychological well-being." Guess what, they were lesbians when they moved there.

There is nothing in either article that says that they want to "move to a more accepting environment for her (the mother)".

There is nothing in either article that says her disapproving family is in Uniontown or even in Ohio.

You're digging your hole deeper.

More pissing into the wind...

[O Really]

I'm sorry - I lost track. Exactly what is your point here, Indago? Why do you think they are suing the clinic? (Majorly cool avatar, BTW)

[indago]

Tick-tock, the chime is about to peal and America will greet a new and slightly sunnier day.

Like a plague, sweeping across the country...

[Mr.B]

"As linked above, many argue that the collective sin was the act of inhospitality. This makes Mr.B the Sodomite."
<snicker>......words of a Strawman.

"We've heard the predictions of doom and gloom so many times before and all that ever happens is that the hateful bigots lose another battle because they are really the immoral ones."
Everybody has a certain degree of immorality; homosexuals just happen to openly define theirs.
There's nothing immoral about opposing depravity.

"NC will be one of the 6 states to push us from 24 states to over half the states with around 3/5 of the population being equal and tolerant."
You've denied in past posts that you're a homosexual; yet you display the colors and speak of "us" ....would you like to make an admission, or are you ashamed of your orientation? Homosexuality is still a perversion; regardless of whether it's tolerated or not. People have adaptability to accept change (remember that line?); that doesn't necessarily mean they like it or approve of it....it's just another form of change (remember that line?) that comes along.

"Tick-tock, the chime is about to peal and America will greet a new and slightly sunnier day."
We call it a trumpet; but I doubt the sunniness......tick-tock.

[indago]

Yes, it looks like Ol' WindPisser is definitely "COMING OUT"...

[Mr.B]

Let's make a wording change:

"Tick-tock, the chime is about to peal and America will greet a new and slightly sunnier day."

We call it a trumpet; but I doubt the sunniness and gaiety of the occasion; if there is, it'll most certainly be "slightly"......tick-tock.