The Religion Thread

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Both men are still good Christians

Where is Christians or Christianity mentioned in the OT?

So this is one of those times when the OT isn't part of Christianity. As opposed to those times when it suits your bigotry and hate for it to part of Christianity so that you can quote from it.

I "cherry-pick" what suits the subject, and, believe it or not, each happens to be different.

You "cherry-pick what suits the subject" based on your bigotry and hate. Paul's letter to the Corinthians for example: You cherry-pick the directive against same-sex couples, while rejecting the directive against women speaking in church.

Christianity doesn't guide you, and you have no comprehension of what Christ taught. You have your bigotry and hate and phobias, and you tailor the religion and edit the Bible to comply.

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Salon: Catholic Bishops Want to Deny Raped Migrant Girls Access to Health Care

Stay classy, Christians.

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To be fair, they don't want raped altar boys using contraception, either.

Unless the alter boys tell police. Having them castrated for doing so counts as contraception.

[Mr.B]

Because same-sex relationships is an abomination in the sight of God.
But not Jesus.
"I and my Father are One....." John 10:30
"..Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me..." John 14:10
(Note: "cherry-picked" versions shown]

The point of my failed marriage post was to highlight (and agree) exactly what you said, and yet reinforce an earlier comment by me.
I merely commented on it without disagreeing.
I didn't say you disagreed.

The devil has seen to it that marriages fail,
The devil has seen to it that the financial stress of illness make marriages fail. The GOP is the devil.
Politics is of the devil; and yes, the devil uses financial stress to make marriages fail.

men turn away from their wives that they pledged to care for,
Some do, I'm sure, just as you have turned away from the Constitution you pledged to defend.
I was never married to the Constitution; only bound to it while I was being paid to do so. I never used it as crutch to whine about every little thing that offends me, my beliefs, or my ideologies.

and men (and women) are lusting for those of the same sex.
You obsess about others' lusts.
I don't have to lust about it. It's being thrown into our faces at every angle. Pick up the paper, click on a webpage or website; turn on the TV or radio...that's all you see or hear: "gay" this, "gay" that....it's the media and entertainment world that's obsessed with "gays".

Something about hell and hand-baskets come to mind.
It's hard to fix people, whichever ones you or I happen to disapprove of. However, we can fix the fact that illness hammers families financially, if we choose to.
For sure.

[Mr.B]

bb - did you see the article about proof of humans 2.8 million years ago
how do y'all work 2,800,000 into the 6,000 year book o truths plan ?

Yeah, p.b, I saw the article, but I don't have the answer you seek, or what you hope to hear me say. I've got enough sense to know that the earth is older than 6,000 years.

In Christianity, there are radical and raving fundamentalists, just as there is in any other belief. They staunchly believe that, along with a few other far-out opinions that they adamantly defend.

There are also free-thinkers, atheists, and perversion supporters who are just as radical and raving. It's the world as it is man.

[Mr.B]

"...You cherry-pick what suits the subject...."

<yawn> same 'o same 'o....

[Mr.B]

Salon: Catholic Bishops Want to Deny Raped Migrant Girls Access to Health Care

Stay classy, Christians.

I'm glad I'm not Catholic. You need Mike here to get on his case.

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I'm glad I'm not Catholic. You need Mike here to get on his case.

Don't worry, Mr.B. I wouldn't even mistake you for a Christian.

[Mr.B]

I'm glad I'm not Catholic. You need Mike here to get on his case.

Don't worry, Mr.B. I wouldn't even mistake you for a Christian.

And I wouldn't/couldn't mistake you for an idiot. You're so easy.

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I'm glad I'm not Catholic. You need Mike here to get on his case.

Don't worry, Mr.B. I wouldn't even mistake you for a Christian.

Just my opinion, but I would also think that Mr. B would fit in more with modern Muslim conservatives (even extremists) than modern Christians. That's actually a small compliment to Christians.

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Hey Mr. B, you know how we could star hearing less about gay this and gay that? Help legalize gay marriage.... I mean think about it, when is the last time you've heard a big deal out of a white woman marrying black man....???

Wait.... in your crowd, I probably don't want to know the answer to that.



Crap, wait, Vrede already said that better than I... oh well. I'm leaving it anyway.

[billy.pilgrim]

bb - did you see the article about proof of humans 2.8 million years ago
how do y'all work 2,800,000 into the 6,000 year book o truths plan ?

Yeah, p.b, I saw the article, but I don't have the answer you seek, or what you hope to hear me say. I've got enough sense to know that the earth is older than 6,000 years.

In Christianity, there are radical and raving fundamentalists, just as there is in any other belief. They staunchly believe that, along with a few other far-out opinions that they adamantly defend.

There are also free-thinkers, atheists, and perversion supporters who are just as radical and raving. It's the world as it is man.

glad to see that you haven't fallen for this bs. a believe more than 50% of repugs agree that the earth is 6,000 years old and would call you a heretic for not believing the bible book

[Mr.B]

glad to see that you haven't fallen for this bs. a believe (sic) more than 50% of repugs agree that the earth is 6,000 years old and would call you a heretic for not believing the bible book

Do you have proof of that percentage?

I would probably be considered a "heretic" in a lot of areas; but believing in the Bible would not be one of them. Some Bible publishers, namely Scofield, give a time-line of approximate dates that each book of the Bible was written. It dates the beginning of the writings of Genesis chapter one at approximately 4004 B.C.

That is not to be construed as the date of the Creation; in my opinion and common sense view. There are some who take that date as a literal interpretation of Earth's Creation, and because dinosaurs were not mentioned in the Bible, they weren't any.

If you or I sat down to write a history of our respective lives, that doesn't mean we were born on the date we began writing.

[Mr.B]

"It is true that nearly 100% of people that think the Earth is 6,000 years old are fundies and they would call you a heretic for not believing that the Bible says so."

So all "fundies" are Republicans? Also, I don't recall anywhere in the Bible that states the Earth is 6,000 years old.

[Mr.B]

Many fundies disagree with you. This is no secret.
Guess I'll get excommunicated. Man can do that, you know.

So many of these discussions are about Mr.B prolonging a losing argument with the English language.
So many of these discussions are about Vrede being a condescending (fill in as desired).

[billy.pilgrim]

now now bb, there has been plenty of info for years showing crazy shit the repugs believe - wasn't there some sort of 6,000 year old earth pledge required of the pres wannabbs

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"It is true that nearly 100% of people that think the Earth is 6,000 years old are fundies and they would call you a heretic for not believing that the Bible says so."

So all "fundies" are Republicans? Also, I don't recall anywhere in the Bible that states the Earth is 6,000 years old.

If I recall correctly the years are found by using the genealogy listed in the bible going all the way back to Adam and Eve.

I may be mistaken, not gonna fact check myself. With that logic in mind though, either the bible is wrong, or ~6000 years old.

[Mr.B]

now now bb, there has been plenty of info for years showing crazy shit the repugs believe - wasn't there some sort of 6,000 year old earth pledge required of the pres wannabbs

What are you using that's causing your hallucinations...?

[Mr.B]

GOP member of House Science Committee believes Earth is only 9,000 years old
It's his choice to believe what he wishes; at least he's sticking to his guns, and doesn't really give a damn what anyone else believes. Let 'em whine.

Creationism Controversies The Norm Among Potential Republican 2016 Contenders
Like I said earlier....election's coming up; gotta dupe the people like the Commander-of-Dupe was successful in doing.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) raised eyebrows Monday when he told GQ he couldn't answer a question about the age of the earth because "I'm not a scientist, man." ...
Good answer; he's not a scientist. I doubt anyone knows the correct answer.

Gov. Chris Christie (NJ)
... "That's none of your business," Christie said in May 2011 when asked where he comes down on evolution versus creationism....
Another good answer. Why should he open himself up to heathen ridicule?

Gov. Bobby Jindal (LA)
... Under Jindal's education reforms, thousands of Louisiana students can use taxpayer dollars to attend schools that, as Lance Hill, executive director of Southern Institute for Education and Research, explained to Reuters in July, "use an evangelical curriculum that teaches that humans walked the earth 6,000 years ago with dinosaurs." ...
So...what's the beef in that? If that's what they want to believe, who's business is it. Something else to pizz and moan about.

Sen. Rand Paul (KY)
... Paul declined to answer the question "how old is the world?"
See reply by Christie and Rubio.

"I forgot to say I was only taking easy questions," Paul said. "I'm gonna pass on the age of the earth. I think, ah, I'm just gonna have to pass on that one."
What was the one posing the question wanting to prove?

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What was the one posing the question wanting to prove?

In all cases it's good to know whether or not a politician is grounded in reality or not.

It's not the best idea to elect people that can't differentiate between fact and fiction.