The Religion Thread

[Mr.B]

"If human females chose aliens over human males, they were already pretty intelligent."

That doesn't say much for you, does it?

[Sometime Lefty]

Your ilk is the believer of evolution; therefore you must have evolved from a watery dribble of ejaculate that was spilled on the ground.

So are you saying the world is only 6ooo years old and evolution didn't happen?

[Mr.B]

Your ilk is the believer of evolution; therefore you must have evolved from a watery dribble of ejaculate that was spilled on the ground.

"So are you saying the world is only 6ooo years old and evolution didn't happen?"

:?:

[Mr.B]

Presbyterians approve gay marriage in church constitution
"Tick-tock. To many of the posters there and the former if not the very recently pro-equality Mr.B, they are not "real Christians".

A non-story. The PCA (USA) has had the largest member loss since their taking up the "gay" issue. The only reason this did pass was because of the loss of mainly conservative membership, and the deciding vote was from a liberal state. The PCA (USA) also has had 428 churches pull out of it's association.

Between 2011, when the Presbyterians authorized gay ordination, and 2013, the latest year for which figures are available, 428 of the denomination's churches left for more conservative denominations or dissolved, though some theological conservatives have remained as they decide how to move forward. The losses helped pave the way for approval of gay marriage, since many opponents had left the church.

Carmen Fowler LaBerge, president of the conservative Presbyterian Lay Committee, said the new definition was a repudiation of the Bible and approved "what God does not bless." She urged Presbyterians to protest by redirecting donations away from the national church until the original marriage definition is restored.

The Rev. Paul Detterman, national director of The Fellowship Community, a network of conservative Presbyterian churches that have stayed with the denomination, said his organization will "remain faithfully engaged in conversation" with those of different views in the church. He said the Fellowship's opposition to the amendment is not intended to be anti-gay but aims to uphold the traditional Bible view of marriage.

Although several Protestant denominations have taken significant steps toward recognizing same-sex relationships, only one other major Christian group has endorsed gay marriage church-wide.

So yes, it appears that those with real Christian values recognize homosexuality for what it is; an abomination and a lifestyle contrary to God's intention for mankind. Your tick ain't tocked yet.

[Mr.B]

"So many of these discussions are about Mr.B prolonging a losing argument with the English language."

[bannination]

428 left? Were those real Christians (tm) or the fake variety?

[Mr.B]

... The denomination has nearly 1.8 million members and about 10,000 congregations and is now the largest Protestant group to authorize gay weddings churchwide.... Ooooh, 4%.
So....what? Did I not "copy and paste" the 428 figure? So what if they are the largest Protestant group to authorize gay weddings? Didn't I "copy and paste" Although several Protestant denominations have taken significant steps toward recognizing same-sex relationships, only one other major Christian group has endorsed gay marriage church-wide. All of this is from the link you posted and are gloriously drooling over; I made none of it up nor changed anything, Mr. Obsessed With "Gay" Sex

"If you really thought it is a "non-story" you wouldn't respond to it and you wouldn't attempt to deceive by overemphasizing the significance of "428". Your desperation is showing. We both know that more and more Christians will accept SSM and that none will revert, just like with the death of Jim Crow.
My desperation? Damn, you're stupid! I wasn't attempting to deceive anyone...it's right there in black and white for all to read. If stupid was a commodity, you're be fabulously wealthy.

More and more people may "accept" it, but they aren't Christians. Christians don't turn their noses up at God's Word. Of course, you God-haters know that already.

[Mr.B]

"Why should I bother putting on a new tune when your whiny stupidity®, backtracking®, lies®, illiteracy® and rejection of equal rights® are so consistent® ?"

It's not the tune that's the issue, idiot; you've only got one vocabulary; you play it all the time. It's the repetitiveness of the record's skip that makes you repeat yourself over and over. As far as my illiteracy is concerned, I'm an Einstein compared to you.

Condescending much?

"428 left? Were those real Christians (tm) or the fake variety?"

What...? You can't read nor comprehend? What part of this are you having problems with?

"So yes, it appears that those with real Christian values recognize homosexuality for what it is; an abomination and a lifestyle contrary to God's intention for mankind. "

[Sometime Lefty]

Saw this last night and thought of Mr B. Loopholes for everyone!

[bannination]

"428 left? Were those real Christians (tm) or the fake variety?"

What...? You can't read nor comprehend? What part of this are you having problems with?

"So yes, it appears that those with real Christian values recognize homosexuality for what it is; an abomination and a lifestyle contrary to God's intention for mankind. "

The real Christians vs fake Christians part.

[O Really]

I've never given it any thought; no reason to; comfortably or uncomfortably, nor do I see that it's really any kind of an issue. finis

It may not be an issue of any importance, but it is an interesting theological proposition. The Bible humanizes God, who created the universe, and assigns Him the male gender. Clearly this is a cultural thing, based on the society during which events in the Bible occurred, or during the time it was written. Had the Bible been written by, for example, the Cherokees, God would have been portrayed as female. Not that they were right either. The humanization of God belittles the concept of God and places humans on a level with God who created the universe. Now that's "blasphemous."

[Mr.B]

:!: What was not put "right there in black and white for all to read" was that the "428" you made such a big deal out of is only 4% of the 10,000 Presbyterian congregations. You didn't even link the article so that folks could read the entirety. It's adorable how you repeatedly squirm when busted.

Idiot. Why would I link the whole article when you had already posted it? Do you really think that the others here are that stupid?
I'm just curious...did they have to burn the school down to get you out of the third grade? Your mind is still parked in the third grade; go sift through the ashes, maybe you'll find it.

The point is, Mr. "Gay" Obsessed, the entire PCA did not endorse homosexuality without dissension. Those who left stuck to their Christian and moral values.

Romans 12:2 (cherry-picked version)
"And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove
what is that good, acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

[Mr.B]

"It may not be an issue of any importance, but it is an interesting theological proposition....."

2 Timothy 2:23-24 - "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes."

[Mr.B]

It's "foolish and unlearned" to not admit the obvious implications of your insistence that God is male.
Never have. The Bible says "He".

My bad, I ran an auto search of your quote on the article I linked but must have screwed up doing so. That's why I thought you quoted a different article. See how easy that is? You should try it sometime when you screw up. Of course, this would be less likely to happen if you didn't put so much effort into altering quotes, like removing the link part of it in this instance.
Maybe you shouldn't put so much effort in trying to impress everyone that your responses are absolutely the correct responses. See how easy that would be.

No one ever said that "the entire PCA" endorsed homosexuality without dissension. Straw man much?
Your post title read "Presbyterians approve gay marriage in church constitution "; would that not imply the entire association without question?

Now, 96% of Presbyterians are not real Christians.
They are what they are.

Before long, Mr.B will be the only real Christian left
Hardly. I will be among the number who believes that the Bible is God's Word, and I'm happy with that. Fortunately I am not, nor will be left with the heathen.

....assuming, of course, that his serial false witness, ignoring of Biblical mandates from the same books he cites to justify his bigotry, and rejection of Jesus' calls for tolerance, nonjudgmentalism, compassion and solidarity with the oppressed don't disqualify him, too.

1..Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
2..And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour
3..But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
4..Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
5..For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6..Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7..Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

I think that pretty well says enough; of course, that's the "cherry-picked" version that I made up.

[bannination]

It's "foolish and unlearned" to not admit the obvious implications of your insistence that God is male.
Never have. The Bible says "He".

The bible also says that insects have four legs and four feet, and women were created from a rib, so consider the source.


Which, btw, off topic..... I got in an argument with someone recently who just couldn't believe I don't believe. He said it was so obvious the bible is true, because if you count the ribs on a man, they have one less than woman.

I quit arguing at that point, I knew there was no way to fix that kind of stupid.

[Mr.B]

"The bible also says that insects have four legs and four feet...."
Hmmm...that's strange indeed...was that after or before your ancestors crawled on their belly?

"....and women were created from a rib, so consider the source."
I'll accept that over your version of a slime-ball crawling out of a muck-pit.

""Which, btw, off topic..... I got in an argument with someone recently who just couldn't believe I don't believe. He said it was so obvious the bible is true, because if you count the ribs on a man, they have one less than woman."
I've heard that before; never investigated it though. Wonder how that slime-ball got it's ribs?

I quit arguing at that point, I knew there was no way to fix that kind of stupid.
Just as well. He couldn't fix you either.

[bannination]

To think that God created evolution is misguided, to think that evolution didn't occur is submoronic or insane.

Lump of clay is some how better than ball of slime?!

Religious people.

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[Mr.B]

And he got 'em....and he's saying "you're welcome!"....
and he's sayin' "see you in Hell" !

[Mr.B]

You, too.

... they (homosexuals) are entitled to every right that I have....

I don't have the right to sodomize another man, or vice versa; nor to pretend he's a lollipop.