Mr.B wrote: "And I gave you credit for being intelligent...."
bannination wrote: I wonder how one would tell the difference. If anything "satan" of the bible was less evil than the "god" of the bible. Things that make you go hm....
Mr.B wrote: "And I gave you credit for being intelligent...."
bannination wrote: I wonder how one would tell the difference. If anything "satan" of the bible was less evil than the "god" of the bible. Things that make you go hm....
I rest my case.
What am I missing Mr. B? Let's say both god and satan come to you and ask you to kill your first born, or murder a few hundred people? How do you determine which one is the good guy?
AFAIK the satan guy has never gone on record asking people to do such evil things, but the god guy certainly did, many times.
Vrede wrote:"....my duty to health won't end once the paychecks stop. That's the difference between us." That's what you say...with your attitude towards others, you actually think you're believable.
I swore no oath to God, I swore to protect the Constitution, obey my superiors, etc. "so help me God" ...(with God's help)
I'm not in the military, I'm no longer bound by that oath, so I no longer require God's help to uphold it. You're sure having a hard time with that, aren't you?
"Huh? I think it's big of you to finally admit that you cherry pick those parts of the Bible that suit your bigotry while ignoring equal mandates that don't. Why would I argue?" Have you been asleep? I said before that the "parts of the Bible" that dealt with the subject at hand were right there, and all I had to do was pick them out. Your Ugly Sisters were the first to use that phrase, and it melded itself in your mind....now it's a part of your everyday mentality.
"...you should still respect the Constitution you swore to uphold." Never said I didn't respect it, those are your words because I frown on homosexual activity; I no longer am required to "uphold" it..as far as that goes, I'm not even "required" to respect it...Get over it and live with it, Mr. Self-Righteous.
"Fwiw, I would do my job for lots less but there's no legal way to do that with the level of illness and injury that I treat." Enematology is a bitch, ain't it?
"Your intellectual similarity to Det.Thorn comes to mind." Your condescending self-importance comes to mind.....constantly.
bannination wrote: "What am I missing Mr. B?" We could start by your admission that you're 2 French-fries short of a Happy Meal.....
"Let's say both god and satan come to you and ask you to kill your first born, or murder a few hundred people? How do you determine which one is the good guy?" To quote the Great Vrede, that is a non-sensical question; however, it takes a weak mind not to know the difference. How many unstable people do you think blames God for their murdering someone? Are you so weak-minded, you wouldn't know the difference?
"AFAIK the satan guy has never gone on record asking people to do such evil things, but the god guy certainly did, many times." God tested their faith...same as allowing Satan to test Job's faith. Eternity with God beats "Hell" out of living on this wicked earth.
bannination wrote: "What am I missing Mr. B?" We could start by your admission that you're 2 French-fries short of a Happy Meal.....
"Let's say both god and satan come to you and ask you to kill your first born, or murder a few hundred people? How do you determine which one is the good guy?" To quote the Great Vrede, that is a non-sensical question; however, it takes a weak mind not to know the difference. How many unstable people do you think blames God for their murdering someone? Are you so weak-minded, you wouldn't know the difference?
"AFAIK the satan guy has never gone on record asking people to do such evil things, but the god guy certainly did, many times." God tested their faith...same as allowing Satan to test Job's faith. Eternity with God beats "Hell" out of living on this wicked earth.
So, I guess you saying that all those times God commanded someone to murder another person in the bible, that person was just unstable and it wasn't god telling them to do it? I'm not sure where you're really going with this, other than avoiding a real answer. We weren't even talking about unstable people.
bannination wrote: "What am I missing Mr. B?" We could start by your admission that you're 2 French-fries short of a Happy Meal.....
"Let's say both god and satan come to you and ask you to kill your first born, or murder a few hundred people? How do you determine which one is the good guy?" To quote the Great Vrede, that is a non-sensical question; however, it takes a weak mind not to know the difference. How many unstable people do you think blames God for their murdering someone? Are you so weak-minded, you wouldn't know the difference?
"AFAIK the satan guy has never gone on record asking people to do such evil things, but the god guy certainly did, many times." God tested their faith...same as allowing Satan to test Job's faith. Eternity with God beats "Hell" out of living on this wicked earth.
Not that I'm the great Bible scholar, but didn't God ask Abraham to "sacrifice" (kill) his son Isaac? Regarding Banni's question, how would Abraham know it was God and not Satan? Likewise, if God sometimes pretends to make people do things just for verification of their submission, how did Eve know it wasn't God telling her to eat the apple? (not that it was really an apple, of course). And not that "serpents" were likely to be any more evil than any of the other animals Adam and Eve had "dominion" over. But nevermind the technicalities, it just confuses things.
O Really wrote: "Not that I'm the great Bible scholar..."
Nor am I, nor will I ever pretend I have all the answers; however I can see when I'm being badgered...
therefore, I avoid "foolish and unlearned questions, knowing that they do gender strifes."
Let's see here..Vrede calls it "running away from"® ... :thumbsup:
bannination wrote:What's nonsensical about the question?
2 Timothy 2:23---- "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes."
Good thing our education system doesn't work that way. Actually, good thing normal human beings don't work that way, except when dodging hard questions.
I know no one knows everything, but that seems like a very important question when you can't differentiate between god's orders and satan's orders.
O Really wrote: "Not that I'm the great Bible scholar..."
Nor am I ...
Why not? It is clearly the document by which you live your life - and which you believe will affect your afterlife into infinity. Seems to me being a Biblical scholar would be at the top of the physical life's bucket list. Putting into lowly Earthly terms, if I'm negotiating a new contract or handling grievances or challenges to an existing contract, I'm going to know that document like it was my wife's ass (from another thread). You believe that the Bible is inerrant, and that following it will determine whether you spend life after death lolling around with angels or frying on the brimstone. And you're not a scholar of that document? Seriously?
O Really wrote: "Not that I'm the great Bible scholar..."
Nor am I ...
Why not? It is clearly the document by which you live your life - and which you believe will affect your afterlife into infinity. Seems to me being a Biblical scholar would be at the top of the physical life's bucket list. Putting into lowly Earthly terms, if I'm negotiating a new contract or handling grievances or challenges to an existing contract, I'm going to know that document like it was my wife's ass (from another thread). You believe that the Bible is inerrant, and that following it will determine whether you spend life after death lolling around with angels or frying on the brimstone. And you're not a scholar of that document? Seriously?
bannination wrote:What's nonsensical about the question?
2 Timothy 2:23---- "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes."
What's "foolish and unlearned" about bannination's question?
Firstly, it's a foolish question, secondly, I am not "learned" enough to attempt to answer it. I am "learned" enough to know the difference between God and Satan.....I think.
Mr.B wrote:
Firstly, it's a foolish question, secondly, I am not "learned" enough to attempt to answer it. I am "learned" enough to know the difference between God and Satan.....I think.
it's not a foolish question in context. You have said several times that Satan tries to get humans to do things; and that Satan takes various forms. So if Satan is pretending to be God, or God is asking for something Satanic, how does a mere mortal tell the difference. Might be metaphysical, but not foolish.