What happened to Vrede? Answer inside.

[Wneglia]

... So Banni....it appears I have joined an elite club, doesn't it? You know, that "real ass and total bastard" club....? I had forgotten about the emails to Asheville you and Vrede initiated against nascarfan...so tell me...no---tell all of us here; just who are the real asses and total bastards here?

First I've heard of it. Got a link? Are you unethically revealing the content of PMs?

We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

Who have been the real "asses and total bastards" all along? Oh yeah...and about Vrede posting Wneglia's photo (twice)...?

More than that.

That wasn't a "real ass and total bastard" thingy?

Ummm, he had already told us publicly that Wneglia is his real name, where he worked and what he did, and he never complained about the pic except to laugh and say it wasn't the most flattering one. Try to make sense, try hard.

I'll be messaging him so he can weigh in, something you obviously did not do before trying and failing at being his champion.

O Really...you said (in essence) you've lost any respect for me for what I did.....what do you think of your "heroes" now?

Ummm, all of your examples are either nonsense, things that have never been discussed here and you haven't provided evidence of, or lies.

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)

That doesn't happen here, you and Colonel Taylor have a shared paranoid delusion.

Once again, it's hilarious that Colonel Taylor returns to the forum, posts so stupid and Mr.B swallows it.

I have been trying to avoid this fray, as it appears to me to be totally childish on all sides, (although I have to admit to some vicarious enjoyment-kinda like watching "professional" wrassling). But since my name has been brought up, while I didn't particularly enjoy seeing my ugly mug posted, I cannot fault Vrede, as it was not only done without malice, and was my fault for being stupid enough to use my real name when initially registering in the original Blue Ridge forum. This is the first non-professional forum I have participated in, and had I known the potential hazards of non-anonymitiy, I would never have done it, but once it was done, anyone could google my name and get pages of hits. While I don't feel threatened by any members here, or don't regret anything I've posted, I do at times take offense at some of the content posted that, while not being directed at me personally, denigrates by christian beliefs, but I try to forgive, rather than fight back.
Peace

[Mr.B]

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)
Just because you are unethical, doesn't mean I am.

Yeah it does...I'm a member of your elite club now, remember?

[Mr.B]

While I don't feel threatened by any members here, or don't regret anything I've posted, I do at times take offense at some of the content posted that, while not being directed at me personally, denigrates my christian beliefs, but I try to forgive, rather than fight back.
Peace

Just don't quote scripture; you ain't heard any denigration yet....

It's difficult to find forgiveness when you're being slammed by hateful God-hating heathens.
I'm still human enough to lash back. Good to hear from you!

[Vrede too]

... Oh yeah...and about Vrede posting Wneglia's photo (twice)...?

More than that.

That wasn't a "real ass and total bastard" thingy?

Ummm, he had already told us publicly that Wneglia is his real name, where he worked and what he did, and he never complained about the pic except to laugh and say it wasn't the most flattering one. Try to make sense, try hard.

I'll be messaging him so he can weigh in, something you obviously did not do before trying and failing at being his champion.

... Wngelia has never asked for anything to be removed, and he's never tried to hide his identity. If was trying to hide who he was he'd probably not use that username. (DUHHHHH). If he ever asked for it to be removed, it certainly would be.

If someone uses their real name, I don't think they care if their identity is known or not....

Deleted from Mr.B's reply and run shrieking away from, as usual:

... But since my name has been brought up, while I didn't particularly enjoy seeing my ugly mug posted, I cannot fault Vrede, as it was not only done without malice, and was my fault for being stupid enough to use my real name when initially registering in the original Blue Ridge forum. This is the first non-professional forum I have participated in, and had I known the potential hazards of non-anonymitiy, I would never have done it, but once it was done, anyone could google my name and get pages of hits....

Mr.B has no shame when he screws up, even when it's a fellow Christian con he posted untruthfully about.

[Mr.B]

First I've heard of it. Got a link? Are you unethically revealing the content of PMs? .....We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

Of course "we" can't be outraged...they're not there anymore; the BRN Forums are defunct, and if you had any posts in regard to the same here at BRD, they "ran shrieking away" when you frantically PM'd Banni and "asked" him to delete everything because you were afraid that somehow they might be used against you.

In the BRN forums, I recall the 'conversations' back and forth with nascarfan about your obsession with the probability of his using city owned computers to post in the forums.; you constantly made a big issue out of it. He also implied that you may very well be using the computers at your job. That's where the IP address snafu started.

My dog's not in this fight; I dunno if you actually wrote any emails to the city or not, don't really care, but I do recall your wonderment of what might happen to nascarfan's job if you did... all I'm pointing out here is that I'm not the founding member of the "real ass and total bastard" club.

[Vrede too]

... Mr.B has no shame when he screws up, even when it's a fellow Christian con he posted untruthfully about.

Just don't quote scripture ...

Thou shalt not bear false witness

[Mr.B]

Deleted from Mr.B's reply and run shrieking away from, as usual:

... But since my name has been brought up, while I didn't particularly enjoy seeing my ugly mug posted, I cannot fault Vrede, as it was not only done without malice, and was my fault for being stupid enough to use my real name when initially registering in the original Blue Ridge forum. This is the first non-professional forum I have participated in, and had I known the potential hazards of non-anonymitiy, I would never have done it, but once it was done, anyone could google my name and get pages of hits....

Mr.B has no shame when he screws up, even when it's a fellow Christian con he posted untruthfully about.

Are you stupid all the time, or just when you're awake?

I didn't delete anything; I had no dog in that fight, so no reason to comment on that portion of his post....nor did I post anything that was untruthful.

Did you get Doc's permission to post his photo in this forum when you first posted it..? If you didn't, despite the fact that he states it could have been easily found, was it still ethical for you to post it here in this non-professional dung heap without asking? What makes you think your actions don't warrant ridicule alongside mine?

[rstrong]

Just don't quote scripture; you ain't heard any denigration yet....

No-one minds if you quote scripture. You won't be degenerated for it, but someone may disagree with you.

Of course, if you quote a directive from the Bible that degenerates others... even then you're unlikely to be degenerated yourself. Again though, someone will likely disagree with you.

But as Mr.B has found out, you may be asked whether you also follow the directives on the next page. And if not - as in Mr.B's case - THEN you'll be degenerated for your hypocrisy.

Not for religion. Not for quoting scripture. But for using religion as merely an excuse, cherry-picking scripture to back hatred and bigotry.

Of course it doesn't help that to disavow inconvenient directives in the Old Testament, Mr.B denies that the Old Testament is part of Christianity. And then quotes it himself when convenient.

[Vrede too]

... So Banni....it appears I have joined an elite club, doesn't it? You know, that "real ass and total bastard" club....? I had forgotten about the emails to Asheville you and Vrede initiated against nascarfan...so tell me...no---tell all of us here; just who are the real asses and total bastards here?

First I've heard of it. Got a link? Are you unethically revealing the content of PMs?

We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

Who have been the real "asses and total bastards" all along? Oh yeah...and about Vrede posting Wneglia's photo (twice)...?

More than that.

That wasn't a "real ass and total bastard" thingy?

Ummm, he had already told us publicly that Wneglia is his real name, where he worked and what he did, and he never complained about the pic except to laugh and say it wasn't the most flattering one. Try to make sense, try hard.

I'll be messaging him so he can weigh in, something you obviously did not do before trying and failing at being his champion.

O Really...you said (in essence) you've lost any respect for me for what I did.....what do you think of your "heroes" now?

Ummm, all of your examples are either nonsense, things that have never been discussed here and you haven't provided evidence of, or lies.

(btw...Banni, if you just happen to delete this or the Colonels' posts, I've made copies)

That doesn't happen here, you and Colonel Taylor have a shared paranoid delusion.

Once again, it's hilarious that Colonel Taylor returns to the forum, posts so stupid and Mr.B swallows it.

Now, the only question is whether Colonel Taylor is lurking or whether Mr.B was actually so foolish as to contact him and ask for help in rationalizing his own immorality.

Of course "we" can't be outraged...they're not there anymore; the BRN Forums are defunct,

There was never any discussion on BRN of emails to Asheville initiated against nascarfan and, if it really happened at all, no one ever accused me of being the source. You're lying again and, once again, are you unethically revealing the content of PMs?

and if you had any posts in regard to the same here at BRD, they "ran shrieking away" when you frantically PM'd Banni and "asked" him to delete everything because you were afraid that somehow they might be used against you.

If I could have eliminated the risk to me that you deliberately created while preserving every single word I ever posted about nascarfan88, I would have gladly done so.

In the BRN forums, I recall the 'conversations' back and forth with nascarfan about your obsession with the probability of his using city owned computers to post in the forums.; you constantly made a big issue out of it. He also implied that you may very well be using the computers at your job. That's where the IP address snafu started.

You are confused, as usual. I did not have access to IP addresses on BRN and nascarfan88 never posted in this forum.

My dog's not in this fight; I dunno if you actually wrote any emails to the city or not, don't really care,

You stated it as fact and now you're backtracking, as usual.

but I do recall your wonderment of what might happen to nascarfan's job if you did...

I don't remember that, but if I did it would have been to point out how stupid it was for nascarfan88 to put himself at risk by announcing where he works, the same peril you chose to put me in.

all I'm pointing out here is that I'm not the founding member of the "real ass and total bastard" club.

I get how desperate you are to rationalize your own immorality, but you've screwed up re both nascarfan88 and Wneglia.

[Vrede too]

Deleted from Mr.B's reply and run shrieking away from, as usual:

... But since my name has been brought up, while I didn't particularly enjoy seeing my ugly mug posted, I cannot fault Vrede, as it was not only done without malice, and was my fault for being stupid enough to use my real name when initially registering in the original Blue Ridge forum. This is the first non-professional forum I have participated in, and had I known the potential hazards of non-anonymitiy, I would never have done it, but once it was done, anyone could google my name and get pages of hits....

Mr.B has no shame when he screws up, even when it's a fellow Christian con he posted untruthfully about.

Just don't quote scripture ...

Thou shalt not bear false witness

Are you stupid all the time, or just when you're awake?

I didn't delete anything; I had no dog in that fight,

Cowardly backtracking, as usual. You brought Wneglia into this discussion.

so no reason to comment on that portion of his post....nor did I post anything that was untruthful.

Stupid lie, as usual. You deleted from your reply the entire part of Wneglia's post debunking your description of the situation.

Did you get Doc's permission to post his photo in this forum when you first posted it..?

No, but I would have immediately deleted it if he ever asked me to.

If you didn't, despite the fact that he states it could have been easily found, was it still ethical for you to post it here in this non-professional dung heap without asking? What makes you think your actions don't warrant ridicule alongside mine?

As Wneglia already told you and you wussily deleted from your reply, he had already told us his name, his occupation, where he lives, where his other 2 homes are and the fact that anyone could find his pic with that info. Nothing I did put him at increased risk of anything.

I get how desperate you are to rationalize your own immorality, but you've screwed up re both nascarfan88 and Wneglia.

As a semi-related aside, Wneglia once, without malice, posted enough details about a colleague to theoretically put the colleague at risk of physical harm. I immediately PMed Wneglia, he thanked me and deleted the post.

What you did is childish and immoral, Mr.B, and none of your and Colonel Taylor's 5 pages of lies and deflections alter the fact that you don't have the balls to admit it.

[rstrong]

but I do recall your wonderment of what might happen to nascarfan's job if you did...

Funny you should mention nascarfan. Apparently I annoyed him on BRN by disproving some of his claims using proper citations. That includes quoting Newt Gingrich to back my position and contradict his claims, at a time when he had a Newt Gingrich banner as a signature line on all his posts.

Which is why when I made a single post on another forum, Nascarfan saw me, went crying to that forum's admin, and had me locked out as a commie Marxist socialist lib'rul.

People like you and nascarfan are not above attacking people elsewhere.

[bannination]

While I don't feel threatened by any members here, or don't regret anything I've posted, I do at times take offense at some of the content posted that, while not being directed at me personally, denigrates my christian beliefs, but I try to forgive, rather than fight back.
Peace

Just don't quote scripture; you ain't heard any denigration yet....

It's difficult to find forgiveness when you're being slammed by hateful God-hating heathens.
I'm still human enough to lash back. Good to hear from you!

We're not slamming you, I'm just "Hating the sin, not the sinner." Remember how that works?

[Mr.B]

We're not slamming you,
No, of course not....

I'm just "Hating the sin, not the sinner." Remember how that works?
Why don't you explain it?

"What you did is childish and immoral, Mr.B, and none of your and Colonel Taylor's 5 pages of lies and deflections alter the fact that you don't have the balls to admit it."
Can y'all believe that...?! What's this world coming to...?! Vrede has the audacity to call someone a liar! Un-believable! And fantasize and obsess about my balls as well!

You're forgetting something dodo...I never made anything public, never mentioned anything about you in a post. You were the one who went all ape-dookey and foaming at the mouth when you "ran shrieking away" claiming I was dropping hints that would identify you.

The fact that you once were a Greenpeacer was all you....remember the smokestack climbers...? Besides, what with you stating you were an activist and the job you held and where you performed the job....it didn't take a college degree to work that out.

You divulged much when you were trashing and berating others, you screwed up big time; you got 'cotched',
and now "je oogsten wat je gezaaid" . Now....suck it up and live with it.

[Vrede too]

Send email to Colonel Taylor

Subject: Email outrage

... When many of the cons were getting e-mails from posters here on their personal emails that were supposed to be private where was the outrage then??????

First I've heard of it. Got a link? We can't be outraged over things no one ever mentioned. Try to make sense.

That said, there's a feature in the "User Control Panel" that either allows or refuses emails. Did you or one of your idiot comrades neglect to turn it off?

Just checking. LOL.

I can't know for sure but the forum said:

The email has been sent.

Of course, I never saw the address is was sent to. Mr.B's champion and hero, Colonel Taylor, is an idiot and a crybaby, again. If he gets the email because he was too stupid to turn off the function in the "User Control Panel", you can bet that he will never have the stones to admit it.

[Vrede too]

Deleted from Mr.B's reply and run shrieking away from, as usual:

... But since my name has been brought up, while I didn't particularly enjoy seeing my ugly mug posted, I cannot fault Vrede, as it was not only done without malice, and was my fault for being stupid enough to use my real name when initially registering in the original Blue Ridge forum. This is the first non-professional forum I have participated in, and had I known the potential hazards of non-anonymitiy, I would never have done it, but once it was done, anyone could google my name and get pages of hits....

Mr.B has no shame when he screws up, even when it's a fellow Christian con he posted untruthfully about.

Just don't quote scripture ...

Thou shalt not bear false witness

Cowardly backtracking, as usual. You brought Wneglia into this discussion.

Stupid lie, as usual. You deleted from your reply the entire part of Wneglia's post debunking your description of the situation.

As Wneglia already told you and you wussily deleted from your reply, he had already told us his name, his occupation, where he lives, where his other 2 homes are and the fact that anyone could find his pic with that info. Nothing I did put him at increased risk of anything....

I get how desperate you are to rationalize your own immorality, but you've screwed up re both nascarfan88 and Wneglia.

What you did is childish and immoral, Mr.B, and none of your and Colonel Taylor's 5 pages of lies and deflections alter the fact that you don't have the balls to admit it.

Can y'all believe that...?! What's this world coming to...?! Vrede has the audacity to call someone a liar!

You got challenged dozens of times to find a single lie of mine, you always ran shrieking away.

Un-believable! And fantasize and obsess about my balls as well!

Your lack of them, as proven by your 5 pages of lies about and deflections from what you did.

You're forgetting something dodo...I never made anything public, never mentioned anything about you in a post.

Lie, as usual. You revealed the Greenpeace connection several times, no one else.

You were the one who went all ape-dookey and foaming at the mouth when you "ran shrieking away" claiming I was dropping hints that would identify you.

I had deleted the political and social posts that you knew could harm my career. Again:

I am proud of who I am and what I've done but, as O Really and I have made clear to you, that does not include the possibility of sharing our forum posts with our bosses/clients. It's funny how you misstate the issue in order to try and fail at making yourself look good. Again:

... I did choose to weigh the potential risk to my job over staying in this forum. If you want to call that "run shrieking away", so be it. You can both prove that you're braver than me. Leave all of your posts in place and post your real full names in the open forum. Then, homerfobe, you tell us your hometown and employer while unemployed Mr.B tells us, say, the name of his church. I won't hold my breath....

You already were divulging part of what you know in open forum, and you know that it was enough information for anyone with malicious intent and basic research skills to do me harm. Quit lying.

Good thing I didn't hold my breath. As usual, Mr.B ran shrieking away from the challenge.

The fact that you once were a Greenpeacer was all you....remember the smokestack climbers...?

Lie, as usual. I never said I had been with Greenpeace when we were discussing the smokestack climbers.

Besides, what with you stating you were an activist and the job you held and where you performed the job....it didn't take a college degree to work that out....

I never said or hinted at my activism and sailing being linked. You lie, again.

Even if you did figure it out on your own, which I have strong doubts about and would never believe the claims of a proven liar like you, sharing it publicly crossed the line and you're just 5 pages full of wussy in not admitting it.

Now, about your lying about the Wneglia situation, getting debunked by me, banni and Wneglia, and then being so wussy as to delete Wneglia's debunking from your whiny reply? Grow a pair.

[bannination]

Mr. B, by your own standards you should be banned now, so go be an evil person somewhere else.

[Vrede too]

To be fair, Mr.B's standards, like his adherence to biblical mandates, are moving targets.

[rstrong]

To be fair, Mr.B's standards, like his adherence to biblical mandates, are moving targets.

I thought it was that "Bible Code" I keep hearing references to. Some formula that tells Mr.B which days the Old Testament is part of Christianity. Some code that determines which individual pages of the New Testament are canon and which should be ignored. Some hidden message that supports his claim that slaves were happy to be slaves when enslaved by Christians.

[Vrede too]

... Libtart ... libtart ...

Opps, dubmass.

[Vrede too]

Even clear words like "threats" and "initiate" become moving targets:

My "ongoing threats"...? Other than "Do I need to push a little more myself", what ongoing threats?

... you reap what you sow.

...you truly reap what you sow....

It's called an ace in the hole....

It takes sleaze to counter sleaze ...

Do I need to push a little more myself...... Or are you gonna let this die?

Oh....btw....Do you still have that "diversity" bumper sticker on the back glass of your vehicle?

... You're the "health professional" here, you should know how easily someone can snap when they get pushed into a corner.

... you know good and well that I could have went ahead and divulged what I know.... I took steps to do something that I felt would back you off..

....I care less where you live...there may be a few others that might want to know though.... If I really, really wanted to do you harm (mentally, not physical), you know good and well that there's other ways than this forum that I could lash back at you.

You lie, as usual.

I didn't initiate anything in this public forum, nor intended to ...

Your bigot buddy homerfobe initiated discussion of Mrs.B vis a vis cocksucking and you happily joined in before I posted a word about her. You've lost track, again.