Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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Vrede too wrote:Next up, hilarious whining that I won't be reading -
I settled down and read a number of the threads here at Blue Ridge Debate and found a number of good topics that would make for lively debate pro and con. However, I can't understand why this forum is dead as road kill.

Above, you have a member who rarely posts, yet makes a post, then states he/she won't be reading any response from two particular members. That's childish and makes no sense.

I understand that one of these posters in question discovered the above's identity , and in retaliation for that, his posts, along with another's, are being shunned by all here, which in turn is rendering this debate forum absolutely useless, as there is only a limited number of members left in this forum due to, as an accusation states, members of both sides of political persuasions being turned off by hateful rhetoric from the above quoted poster.

So what is the answer here? Is this debate forum going to stick around with everyone hiding and pouting, or is it going to move on and get past that big bump that rose in the road in front of it? You are all adults here with adult minds, are you not?

Despite the bickering I've seen in the handful of posts within the last week, I'm interested enough to stick around and see if this is where I'd like to spend some spare time in good old-fashioned debate.

What's going to happen here?
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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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"Been hangin' 'round this lonesome town
Feelin' less and less.
What is gonna happen here is anybody's guess." Rory Gallagher "Middle Name"

I venture to say that what is going to happen here is that nobody is likely to change their views on any subject. This circumstance results in fairly predictable responses from the posters that still post here. I think this predictability is what contributes to the gradual decay of interest. If you, and others who are relatively new posters bring up interesting points or issues, I would say valid debate and comment will follow. But when you can pretty well predict what a response to a post will be and who the response will come from, that sort of takes the intellectual aspect of debating an issue away. But I could be wrong....in any case, as Admiral of this Fleet, I have an interest in seeing it continue to sail even as some decide to walk the plank.

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neoplacebo wrote: . . . If you, and others who are relatively new posters bring up interesting points or issues, I would say valid debate and comment will follow. But when you can pretty well predict what a response to a post will be and who the response will come from, that sort of takes the intellectual aspect of debating an issue away . . . .
Agreed. I'll also say this: I can go several rounds of JYIS with anyone, and I'm better at it than many, and it's fun for a while. I'd prefer actual exchange of real information, verifiable facts and numbers. That's debate, even with overtones of JYIS.
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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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What's JYIS ?

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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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Seth Milner wrote:
Vrede too wrote:... Next up, hilarious whining that I won't be reading - something like, "God's abortions are peachy," and "It's not a handout if Kernel Failure gets it or Mr.B does." You're welcome, liberals.
... Above, you have a member who rarely posts, yet makes a post, then states he/she won't be reading any response from two particular members. That's childish and makes no sense.
Interesting gripe given that you made a false accusation about O Really and then disappeared from discussion of it including:
[color=#0000FF]Vrede too[/color] wrote:"insecure coward" was not very accurate for a journalist. After your gripe - ironic given that you're griping about the "squabbling, infantile, petty b.s." here - I read your posts and the reasoned responses to them (not counting my ignored Mr.B, homerfobe & Kernel Taylor). Whichever side one comes down on they weren't abusive. I'd suggest that you may not be suited for any forum.
Seth Milner wrote:... I have nothing to prove, or hide. My real name is Seth Miller, we just moved to Oconee County, SC on a piece of lakefront property that we've owned for several years. I am semi-retired due to a back injury, but still do some investigative snooping when called upon.

Unless you provide the name of your boss/es and/or clients and you are potentially vulnerable to loss of work due to not being PC, our situations are still not comparable.

... You wrote: Aside: I think investigative journalism is honorable. Thanks for your service and the risks you took.
Now that's a first! Thank you and you're welcome...

For this forum? If you mean ever, that sucks.

http://blueridgedebate.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2015
Seth Milner wrote:I understand that one of these posters in question discovered the above's identity ...
The other one, Kernel Failure, is a complete imbecile if you haven't noticed. His only function in any forum ever is as a source of pity and amusement. You brought this up before and I asked you:
Vrede too wrote:... Why should I waste time on the whining about me? ...
You chose not to answer.

As for your larger question, I don't know or care. Thanks to Mr.B I'm unable to comment on politics and society except in the blandest of ways. I just check in occasionally to see if someone has quoted the sleazeball or the imbecile still whining about me. If you want to give it a shot I'd suggest picking from among the hundreds of topics besides Free Range Kids or starting a new one and seeing what happens. Complaining about the forum itself never leads to anything productive.
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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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I think in addition to "debate" (implying adversarial positions), it's fun to discuss, rant, ridicule, and tell entertaining stories. Most of the regular members here are capable of all of that and more. Some, however, have managed to get focused on (or maybe only have interest in) limited topics and take up space that could better be used playing a broken record. (yeah, I know - what's a "record"?)

The challenge BRD has always had is that there is no readily available way to attract participants, largely because the forum name isn't very Googlable. For example, the much-maligned "Conservative Political Forum" does have a name that can bring participants through search engines. What could you look for that would bring you here?

But it's not a Topix style forum (fortunately) and the regular members are generally a good group of people. Stay around, pick interesting topics, avoid the pissing contests, and you might be entertained.

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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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Seth Milner wrote:
Vrede too wrote:Next up, hilarious whining that I won't be reading -
I settled down and read a number of the threads here at Blue Ridge Debate and found a number of good topics that would make for lively debate pro and con. However, I can't understand why this forum is dead as road kill.

Above, you have a member who rarely posts, yet makes a post, then states he/she won't be reading any response from two particular members. That's childish and makes no sense.

I understand that one of these posters in question discovered the above's identity , and in retaliation for that, his posts, along with another's, are being shunned by all here, which in turn is rendering this debate forum absolutely useless, as there is only a limited number of members left in this forum due to, as an accusation states, members of both sides of political persuasions being turned off by hateful rhetoric from the above quoted poster.

So what is the answer here? Is this debate forum going to stick around with everyone hiding and pouting, or is it going to move on and get past that big bump that rose in the road in front of it? You are all adults here with adult minds, are you not?

Despite the bickering I've seen in the handful of posts within the last week, I'm interested enough to stick around and see if this is where I'd like to spend some spare time in good old-fashioned debate.

What's going to happen here?
See Seth you have some here as you have mentioned who think they are always right even when proven wrong hundreds of times. Then you have his followers who cannot think for themselves and repeat him even when he lies.
Then when this person who banni gave full access of the website to is allowed to follow IP's so to be sure that others like you aren't using tax dollars while on the internet. He admitted this by mistake and I reposted it, it may have been deleted by now. I posted the proof many times but he will run to banni and have his post removed and bani being a follower does anything his leader tells him or he'll go back and remove his post content when proven a liar.
Now if you have a wife be sure this low life who hides behind his keyboard muscles will in a matter of time start abusing her and saying nasty things, it's coming.
There were many conservatives here when this site opened but when cornered like a rat the head lib will get personal and a few of us used our real names at one time, but seen that some here are mentally unstable and will find you out and post pictures and contact your employer they left. So beware.
Prove their leader a dolt or wrong here's what you get. He goes back and removes his post because he's a wuss. There's 100's more but you get the hint.
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Re: Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?

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Vrede wrote: "Thanks to Mr.B I'm unable to comment on politics and society except in the blandest of ways. I just check in occasionally to see if someone has quoted the sleazeball....."
How am I stopping you? I told you I have no interests in your political views. I claim no party loyalty, and I said in an earlier post, that you "ignored", that I certainly have no interest in sticking my nose into your job. I would have nothing to prove by going to your employer; besides, do you think that they really would give a happy damn about some spewings back and forth in a debate forum? Grow up and stop your silly whining that feeds your need for sympathetic attention; or as I said earlier, get on with your life; I have.

I got what I wanted, and I'm content with that. You said you wouldn't/couldn't trust me as far as you could throw me; well, that only goes to prove that because you are a sleazeball, you think everyone else is one as well.

As far as being ignored in replies to my posts, I think that's hilarious...in addition to childishness. Whatever.


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Is Blue Ridge Debate Going to Stay, or Dissolve?
Stay.

Although I've entertained the possibility of hosting it from my house on an old eeepc I have running as a file server rather than a VPS that it's currently hosted from to save some money at the expense of being vulnerable to the power grid, internet, etc.

For a small group like this it would work pretty well I'd say.

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What's JYIS ?
bannination wrote:
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"Stay....."
That's good....despite the fact I'm being ignored. I'm a big boy; I can handle it. When y'all gonna grow up and move on?

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It's always tease, tease, tease. 8-)


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Won't matter much as long as you have a poster here who not only ridicules others continually but then when beat down starts on their family members or is allowed by the administrator to follow IP's in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them this forum is nothing more then an entertainers joke. :-H :-H :-H So if a poster post from work they could expect a call from big keyboard brother of the BRD Forum. :crazy:

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Colonel Taylor wrote:Won't matter much as long as you have a poster here who not only ridicules others continually but then when beat down starts on their family members or is allowed by the administrator to follow IP's in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them this forum is nothing more then an entertainers joke. :-H :-H :-H So if a poster post from work they could expect a call from big keyboard brother of the BRD Forum. :crazy:
No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!

:mrgreen:

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bannination wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:Won't matter much as long as you have a poster here who not only ridicules others continually but then when beat down starts on their family members or is allowed by the administrator to follow IP's in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them this forum is nothing more then an entertainers joke. :-H :-H :-H So if a poster post from work they could expect a call from big keyboard brother of the BRD Forum. :crazy:
No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!

:mrgreen:
Well you better go back and read your leaders post from last week or so, you know the poster who tells ya what to do. If he didn't delete it yet. He admitted to reading IP's to stop posters from using tax payer money, so you don't think he contacted Asheville with his finding? :-H You libs do get old, your leader says something It's reposted to prove a point or him wrong then you come back weeks later and act like it was never done or said. He did it with your blessings. :crazy:

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bannination wrote: "No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment!" :mrgreen:
Nor does anyone plan to. :violent:

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Colonel Taylor wrote:
bannination wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:Won't matter much as long as you have a poster here who not only ridicules others continually but then when beat down starts on their family members or is allowed by the administrator to follow IP's in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them this forum is nothing more then an entertainers joke. :-H :-H :-H So if a poster post from work they could expect a call from big keyboard brother of the BRD Forum. :crazy:
No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!

:mrgreen:
Well you better go back and read your leaders post from last week or so, you know the poster who tells ya what to do. If he didn't delete it yet. He admitted to reading IP's to stop posters from using tax payer money, so you don't think he contacted Asheville with his finding? :-H You libs do get old, your leader says something It's reposted to prove a point or him wrong then you come back weeks later and act like it was never done or said. He did it with your blessings. :crazy:
Here from your horses mouth! So banni what do you think he did with the information once he found out? How would vrede know he was working using tax payer resources unless he contacted Asheville? The one who posts and sends petitions to everyone. We'll wait for you protection post. :roll:
Postby Vrede too » Fri Apr 17, 2015 11:41 am

searching our IP's?

To see where people might be from, whether they are using taxpayer resources and paid time like socialist worker Roland Deschain, and whether they might be using multiple handles, duh.

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Well, since banni quoted Kernel Failure making delusional accusations about me, again, I opened the posts.

"whether they are using taxpayer resources" (me) does NOT mean "in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them" (Kernel Failure). Once again, the debate arises as to whether Kernel Failure is lying or is just that illiterate. One thing is certain, he won't have the balls to admit he screwed up, as usual.

All I was interested in was showing the forum that socialist workers nascarfan88 and Roland Deschain use taxpayer paid time and resources to post. It's no surprise that they abuse we taxpayers that way, nor that Kernel Failure and Mr.B don't mind them doing so since they're cons.

My "finding" of this taxpayer abuse was immediately posted for everyone to see, idiot. Claiming that I did anything more, or anything that anyone else could have done, is just Kernel Failure's typical stupidity/paranoia/dishonesty/butthurt obsession with me.

As banni both implies and points out, and Kernel Failure runs away from like the coward he is and always has been:

There's no way to know if nascarfan88 really is a firefighter, "he" might be a janitor or a firefighter's wife.
AFD has hundreds (?) of firefighters, IDing an individual one is impossible from anything nascarfan88 has posted that I know of. If it happened at all, it would have had to have been done by someone far cozier with nascarfan88 than I've ever been.
No one on BRN or BRD ever made the accusation until Kernel Failure started screeching about it recently. It could just be yet another one of his crybaby hallucinations.
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Mr.B wrote:
bannination wrote:No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!
Nor does anyone plan to. :violent:
Could be, I've only said that ANY risk was unacceptable, but you're running away, as usual, from the contrast:

nascarfan88 is and always has been unidentifiable and no one ever used the forums to threaten him in real life.

Thanks to you I am identifiable, and you've issued your own real world threats and said that others have real world threats in mind.

It's adorable that you're still too sackless to admit what you intentionally did. :violent:

Now, both of you crybabies, whine, deflect, lie and shun personal responsibility some more. Since this is a certainty, I won't bother reading the posts.
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Vrede too wrote:
[b]Mr.B[/b] wrote:
[b]bannination[/b] wrote:No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!
Nor does anyone plan to. :violent:
Could be, I've only said that ANY risk was unacceptable, but you're running away, as usual, from the contrast:

nascarfan88 is and always has been unidentifiable and no one ever used the forums to threaten him in real life.

Thanks to you I am identifiable, and you've issued your own real world threats and said that others have real world threats in mind.

It's adorable that you're still too sackless to admit what you intentionally did. :violent:

Now, both of you crybabies, whine, deflect, lie and shun personal responsibility some more. Since this is a certainty, I won't bother reading the posts.
So nice to see that vrede has now turned on one of his followers, so banni did you try to real in the forum liar and he didn't like it? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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bannination wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:Won't matter much as long as you have a poster here who not only ridicules others continually but then when beat down starts on their family members or is allowed by the administrator to follow IP's in order to save the local municipalities money then contact them this forum is nothing more then an entertainers joke. :-H :-H :-H So if a poster post from work they could expect a call from big keyboard brother of the BRD Forum. :crazy:
No one has ever contacted someone's place of employment. Get over it. What would one say? "This random dude named nascarfan88, you know him right? Yeah, he's been using the internet!" OMG!

:mrgreen:
Well according to your leader YOU GAVE him PERMISSION to check and see who was using tax payer resources. So who's the BS'er now you or vrede? :roll:

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