Can't make this (stuff) up

[Mr.B]

Yes, Mr.B.; Canada was responsible for someone misrepresenting a US Democratic Representative's joke. Sure. Whatever you say.

Maybe they offer lessons in comprehension as well.

[rstrong]

Yes, Mr.B.; Canada was responsible for someone misrepresenting a US Democratic Representative's joke. Sure. Whatever you say.

Maybe they offer lessons in comprehension as well.

Maybe they'll take pity and offer those lessons to you for free, if only to help you with the Snopes article you posted.

[Mr.B]

If had known you would have had so much trouble with the article, I would have pasted it a bit slower.

[Bungalow Bill]

The nutjobs are still bringing up the 57 state thing? Seven years
after the fact? This thing has more mold on it than year old bread.
Hilarious.

[Mr.B]

"The nutjobs are still bringing up the 57 state thing? Seven years after the fact?
This thing has more mold on it than year old bread. Hilarious."

♫ Memories....

[Colonel Taylor]

"The nutjobs are still bringing up the 57 state thing? Seven years after the fact?
This thing has more mold on it than year old bread. Hilarious."

♫ Memories....

Yet most libs still deny it which is even funnier.

[Bungalow Bill]

Libs don't deny he said it. They just deny it was a big deal.
It was just a typical campaign flub, like all pols make.

[O Really]

Libs don't deny he said it. They just deny it was a big deal.
It was just a typical campaign flub, like all pols make.

And also deny that he really thought there were 57 states, or that it was some mystical Kenyan thing about 57 virgins or something. Another example of right-wing ridiculousness - they don't believe anything Obama says except that if he says "57 states" it must be significant.

[Mr.B]

Maybe those "57 states" were part of that "Change" thingy we were promised....which never happened?

I'm certain that had it been a Repub that said something about 57 states, it would still be passing around like moldy old bread......

Maybe he had in mind to add Kenya, Puerto Rico, and the 'virgin' islands as new states.....wait, that's still only 53...more later.

[rstrong]

Libs don't deny he said it. They just deny it was a big deal.
It was just a typical campaign flub, like all pols make.

And also deny that he really thought there were 57 states, or that it was some mystical Kenyan thing about 57 virgins or something. Another example of right-wing ridiculousness - they don't believe anything Obama says except that if he says "57 states" it must be significant.

The wingnuttery was based on there being 57 Islamic states in the world. The real number is more like 52, but chemically imbalanced tea partiers have never been concerned with details.

[Bungalow Bill]

And also deny that he really thought there were 57 states, or that it was some mystical Kenyan thing about 57 virgins or something. Another example of right-wing ridiculousness - they don't believe anything Obama says except that if he says "57 states" it must be significant.

Yep, there were all kinds of dumb add ons which only made them seem even
more nutty. Just one more crazy right wing idea among many in 2008. Maybe
they'll get over it by January of 2017.

[Bungalow Bill]

The wingnuttery was based on there being 57 Islamic states in the world. The real number is more like 52, but chemically imbalanced tea partiers have never been concerned with details.

Many years ago the fundis made some connection between something in the book of
Revelations and the number of countries in the Common Market, as the EU was then
known. One or two countries joined, which screwed up the number in the "prophecy"
and it was quietly dropped from the list of evidence for the coming end of the world.

[rstrong]

Yep, there were all kinds of dumb add ons which only made them seem even
more nutty. Just one more crazy right wing idea among many in 2008. Maybe
they'll get over it by January of 2017.

Don't count on it. Bill Clinton was FAR more fiscally conservative than Reagan, Bush I or Bush II. But he was labelled a "tax & spend lib'rul who would bankrupt the country" before he was elected, and Republicans still believed it long after his two terms ended.

Heck, in a blind test of Carter and Reagan policies once in office, Republicans could only declare Carter the small government, fiscally responsible Republican. But don't count on him getting credit for it.

[Mr.B]

"The nutjobs are still bringing up the 57 state thing? Seven years after the fact? This thing has more mold on it than year old bread. Hilarious."

That "57 states" thingy sure got you stirred up, didn't it, Bungalow Bill?

This is the most you've posted in quite some time!
Good to hear from you though....despite my being in detention.

[Colonel Taylor]

If had known you would have had so much trouble with the article, I would have pasted it a bit slower.

You couldn't post it slow enough!!!!

[Mr.B]

"The wingnuttery was based on there being 57 Islamic states in the world.
The real number is more like 52, but chemically imbalanced tea partiers have never been concerned with details."
Ya think those chemicals were legal...?

"Many years ago the fundis made some connection between something in the book of
Revelations and the number of countries in the Common Market, as the EU was then
known. One or two countries joined, which screwed up the number in the "prophecy"
and it was quietly dropped from the list of evidence for the coming end of the world."
A similar panic-evoking Biblical prophetical connection was made concerning Sadam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait;
also something about a red calf being born somewhere......

[Bungalow Bill]

Don't count on it. Bill Clinton was FAR more fiscally conservative than Reagan, Bush I or Bush II. But he was labelled a "tax & spend lib'rul who would bankrupt the country" before he was elected, and Republicans still believed it long after his two terms ended.

Heck, in a blind test of Carter and Reagan policies once in office, Republicans could only declare Carter the small government, fiscally responsible Republican. But don't count on him getting credit for it.

I don't know about Clinton's entire record, but he did raise the top tax rate, though he later
signed a cut in the capital gains tax rate. And Bush II had a projected surplus, which he
apparently couldn't stand and instituted a large tax cut to take care of it. And who keeps
whining about the deficit--Republicans. Yes, Reagan was a spendthrift who jacked up the
deficit. And it's not hard to see the same folks who can't abide Obama still complaining well
after he leaves office.

[Bungalow Bill]

That "57 states" thingy sure got you stirred up, didn't it, Bungalow Bill?

This is the most you've posted in quite some time!
Good to hear from you though....despite my being in detention.

It has me more amused than stirred up, folks still harping on it
long after the fact, as if it were something all that significant.
Detention--well, that's what happens when you don't do your homework
and talk in class. :chalo:

[Bungalow Bill]

A similar panic-evoking Biblical prophetical connection was made concerning Sadam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait; also something about a red calf being born somewhere......

I seem to remember something about a red calf. Biblical prophecies are
funny. As soon as one is shot down, another one appears on the scene.

[rstrong]

I don't know about Clinton's entire record, but he did raise the top tax rate

I'd bet that it was still lower than in the Reagan years.

And Bush II had a projected surplus, which he apparently couldn't stand and instituted a large tax cut to take care of it.

Bush II spent like a drunken sailor:

In the first three years of the Bush administration, government spending has climbed - in real, inflation-adjusted terms - by a staggering 15.6 percent. That far outstrips the budget growth in Clinton's first three years, when real spending climbed just 3.5 percent. Under the first President Bush, the comparable figure was 8.3 percent; under Ronald Reagan, 6.8 percent, and under Jimmy Carter, 13.3 percent. No, that's not a mistake: Bush is a bigger spender than Carter was.

To be sure, Bush's budgets have had to account for Sept. 11 and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But even when defense spending is excluded, discretionary spending has soared by nearly 21 percent in Bush's first three years. In Clinton's first triennium, nondefense discretionary spending declined slightly. If their budgets were all you had to go by, you might peg Bush for the Democrat and Clinton for the Republican.

Yes, Reagan was a spendthrift who jacked up the deficit.

Reagan was not even remotely a spendthrift. As much as Carter increased spending, Reagan increased it even more on top of that.

As a general rule the left prefers more government services at the cost of more spending and higher taxes.

As a general rule the right prefers less spending and lower taxes, at the cost of less government services.

Both can be considered responsible and fiscally conservative, so long as income matches spending.

Reagan, Bush I and Bush II chose a different option: Crank up spending, lower taxes, and pass the bill to the next generation. That's not being a spendthrift, and it's not being fiscally conservative. It's slow-motion child molestation.

The only fiscally conservative President in recent decades was Bill Clinton. His Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, through the implementation of spending restraints and small tax increases, mandated the budget be balanced over a number of years. This was in a Democrat-controlled Congress - not a single Republican voted for it.

And he succeeded, bringing in a balanced budget for a year or two, whether you count Social Security or not. Needless to say, his opponents were quick to explain why paying down the debt was a bad idea.