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Stinger wrote:
Vrede wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:http://www.westernjournalism.com/bombsh ... d-request/What will happen when this turns out to be true?
Not if? Typical gullibility.

At least Wneglia cited Faux Noise, not the creators of WingNutDaily.
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Seems thin, the only source is Ed Klein. Where's the usual journalistic mandate for confirmation? Oh, it's Faux Noise.
From conservative James Geraghty at the conservative National Review, about Ed Klein: "Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level."




But when Klein does stoop to that level, the gullible little wingnuts line up to chug the Kool Aid. Not a nanosecond's thought of critical judgment is in evidence.

Fool you once. Shame of the unreliable source. Fool you for the 163rd time in a row, shame on you.
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Colonel Taylor wrote:
Stinger wrote:
From conservative James Geraghty at the conservative National Review, about Ed Klein: "Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level."




But when Klein does stoop to that level, the gullible little wingnuts line up to chug the Kool Aid. Not a nanosecond's thought of critical judgment is in evidence.

Fool you once. Shame of the unreliable source. Fool you for the 163rd time in a row, shame on you.
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No one said that. Another Defective Colon lie.

I did report that even the right-wing intelligentsia, as small in number as it may be, has panned Klein as a bottom-dwelling, scummy liar.

Precisely the kind of guy you would believe.

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Stinger wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:
Stinger wrote:
From conservative James Geraghty at the conservative National Review, about Ed Klein: "Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level."




But when Klein does stoop to that level, the gullible little wingnuts line up to chug the Kool Aid. Not a nanosecond's thought of critical judgment is in evidence.

Fool you once. Shame of the unreliable source. Fool you for the 163rd time in a row, shame on you.
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No one said that. Another Defective Colon lie.

I did report that even the right-wing intelligentsia, as small in number as it may be, has panned Klein as a bottom-dwelling, scummy liar.

Precisely the kind of guy you would believe.
To anyone who believes Obama may just stretch the truth just a little. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Colonel Taylor wrote:http://www.westernjournalism.com/bombsh ... d-request/What will happen when this turns out to be true?
What part is not? We know for a fact State Department Marine detachments were not sent.

We also know for a fact that there were no State Department Marine detachments in Libya. None were there. None got sent home. Just not in the picture.

Yet Tetrius keeps trying to drag them into the equation. Sure sign of a loser.


No one from the CIA or other NSA security personal were sent.

And you are privvy to where CIA and NSA personnel are stationed and where they are sent? You must have an extremely high security clearance.

ROTFLMAO!!!


Special Forces scheduled to rotate in were not sent.

There were no Special Forces scheduled to rotate in. You're just making that up. It sounds good to your uniformed, illogical mind, so you just make it up, believe it, and post it as if others were dumb enough to believe it, too.

You really should stop lying.


US Army Apache helicopters (the most effective toon against such an attack) were not sent.

From where? And they would act based on what intel?

You would fly helicopters into another country's airspace, attack crowds without any valid intel, risk getting helicopters shot down and crews killed or captured because of no intel, and run the risking of killing dozens of innocent civilians in that country?

That's another reason you don't work in military intelligence or for the State Department.

Delusional thinking and inability to distinguish reality from delusions would be another.


Someone stonewalled this decision.

Probably the same person who stonewalls you from accepting reality.

I think it's a Kenyan mind meld thing.

Cluebus: It's already been testified to that the decision not to extend the tour of the SST was made by a mid-level SD staffer following State Department policy.

But the facts don't fit what you really, really, really want to believe, so you just ignore them.


If I had my way they would be shot for treason.

You would shoot a mid-level State Department staffer for following policy?

That's another reason you don't work for the State Department or any other branch of government.

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How many days ago have I been telling you people this:

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, though, denied the claims that requests for support were turned down.
"We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi," she said. "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades."

The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

Watch "Special Report Investigates: Benghazi -- New Revelations" on Fox News at 1 p.m. ET on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.

A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.
According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.

Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.

Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.

A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.

Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.


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Colonel Taylor wrote:
Stinger wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:
Stinger wrote:
From conservative James Geraghty at the conservative National Review, about Ed Klein: "Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level."




But when Klein does stoop to that level, the gullible little wingnuts line up to chug the Kool Aid. Not a nanosecond's thought of critical judgment is in evidence.

Fool you once. Shame of the unreliable source. Fool you for the 163rd time in a row, shame on you.
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No one said that. Another Defective Colon lie.

I did report that even the right-wing intelligentsia, as small in number as it may be, has panned Klein as a bottom-dwelling, scummy liar.

Precisely the kind of guy you would believe.
To anyone who believes Obama may just stretch the truth just a little. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
To anyone who is too dim to recognize that Romney lies more than Obama and his lies are bigger than Obama's.

533 Romney lies in 30 weeks. All documented. LIKE

Check out Romney's lead in the Pants-on-Fire/False lies.

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Tertius wrote:How many days ago have I been telling you people this:

You've been telling us tons of crap for days, most of it false, and whatever you posted that was true never backed up anything you said.


Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi

Oh, goody. Fox News has learned from someone ....

Well, that does it for me.



They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Gee. According to the CIA, no one was told to "stand down."


At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied.

According to the mysterious source.

CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, though, denied the claims that requests for support were turned down.
"We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi," she said. "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades."


A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy.


Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.


Wow. You mean your version of how the military should operate doesn't jibe with how the military thinks the military should operate?

Who woulda thunk it?

Another reason you're not in the military.

And the military policy is to not send forces into hostile environments without knowing what's going on? Wow. It seems like someone has suggested that before.

And the nutjobs have forgotten to consider that the attack stopped for four hours.

So all this and you still haven't proved the slightest shred of your delusion.

Are you not man enough to back up your claims, or is there simply no tidbit of information to support your lunacy?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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The evidence continues to mount. It is clear the White House had word in time to save two men.

The worse part no one tried. Even the men on the ground were told to stand down.

What Obama did to these men is what he has been doing to the country.

As can be seen by the red propaganda Obama has given his supporters nothing but a video lie. A video no one heard of until for almost two weeks the Obama attempted to blame this on.

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Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, who was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, reveals details of meeting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at the publically broadcast memorial service for the slain Americans at Andrews Air Force Base only days after the attack. And, in a recent radio appearance, Woods publicly questions who made the call not to send in back-up forces to possibly save his son’s life, as well as the three other Americans killed in Benghazi (which includes the American ambassador to Libya).


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“When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that your son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’”

Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”

“It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.

“Well, this is what Hillary did,” Woods continues. “She came over and, you know, did the same thing—separately came over and talked with me. I gave her a hug, shook her hand. And she did not appear to be one bit sincere—at all. And you know, she mentioned that the thing about, we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that.”

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Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”


So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need? Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

It would have been a presidential decision. There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

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Gallup: Obama's Job Approval Drops 7 Points in 3 Days

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Tertius wrote:Gallup: Obama's Job Approval Drops 7 Points in 3 Days
[Gallup's] results are deeply inconsistent with the results that other polling firms are showing in the presidential race, and the Gallup poll has a history of performing very poorly when that is the case.
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Still not one shred of proof.

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You cannot even follow the rules. Stay on topic.

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Tertius wrote:Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”


So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need?

No one. Can't you read? No one told anyone in the CIA not to help those in need. Claims to the contrary are inaccurate. Pretty much like everything you post here.

Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

You really do believe that you know what you're talking about? Your earlier posts have proved that you know nothing of State Department operations, military planning, chain of command, or even what forces have been in play.

You're possibly the most ignorant person on this forum, but you keep imagining that you know what you're talking about.

Read your earlier post, dolt:
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.
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It would have been a presidential decision.

How the hell do you know? You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground?

It would have been because you JUST BELIEVE it would have been?

Frickin' brilliant.



There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

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Tertius wrote:You cannot even follow the rules. Stay on topic.

You're the one posting a Gallup poll about popularity on a thread about a right-wing extremist nutjob delusion.

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

And I did address the topic. All these pages and you haven't posted one shred of evidence to support your brain-dead conspiracy theory.

Not man enough to post it, or too chicken to admit that there's not one shred of credible evidence.

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Tertius wrote:Breaking news on Benghazi: the CIA spokesman, presumably at the direction of CIA director David Petraeus, has put out this statement: "No one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. ”


So who in the government did tell “anybody” not to help those in need?

No one. Can't you read?

Someone decided not to send in military assets to help those Agency operators. Would the secretary of defense make such a decision on his own? No.

Why not? Because an ignorant forum loser says so?

Read your own frickin' post:

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.
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It would have been a presidential decision.

Why? Because you say so?

You've already proved clueless about chain of command, State Department, military strategy. Now you're going to tell us who makes what decisions?


There was presumably a rationale for such a decision. What was it? When and why—and based on whose counsel obtained in what meetings or conversations—did President Obama decide against sending in military assets to help the Americans in need?

Logic would demand that you prove Obama made such a decision before you ask that question. Wingnut delusion-think doesn't worry about things like logic and reality.

All these pages and not one shred of proof of your conspiracy theory.

Are you not man enough to post it, or are you not man enough to admit that there is no credible evidence to support your lunacy?

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More swings and misses. Still batting .000.

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Stinger wrote:
Tertius wrote:You cannot even follow the rules. Stay on topic.

You're the one posting a Gallup poll about popularity on a thread about a right-wing extremist nutjob delusion.

Practice what you preach, hypocrite.

And I did address the topic. All these pages and you haven't posted one shred of evidence to support your brain-dead conspiracy theory.

Not man enough to post it, or too chicken to admit that there's not one shred of credible evidence.
I know it would appear that way to you Strung-out but I was demonstrating how the truth about the gay Ambassador murder and depraved indifference is effecting voters.

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How many days ago have I been telling you people this:

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. consulate and subsequent attack several hours later on the annex itself was denied by the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to "stand down."

Woods and at least two others ignored those orders and made their way to the consulate which at that point was on fire. Shots were exchanged. The rescue team from the CIA annex evacuated those who remained at the consulate and Sean Smith, who had been killed in the initial attack. They could not find the ambassador and returned to the CIA annex at about midnight.

At that point, they called again for military support and help because they were taking fire at the CIA safe house, or annex. The request was denied. There were no communications problems at the annex, according those present at the compound. The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

CIA spokeswoman Jennifer Youngblood, though, denied the claims that requests for support were turned down.
"We can say with confidence that the Agency reacted quickly to aid our colleagues during that terrible evening in Benghazi," she said. "Moreover, no one at any level in the CIA told anybody not to help those in need; claims to the contrary are simply inaccurate. In fact, it is important to remember how many lives were saved by courageous Americans who put their own safety at risk that night-and that some of those selfless Americans gave their lives in the effort to rescue their comrades."

The fighting at the CIA annex went on for more than four hours -- enough time for any planes based in Sigonella Air base, just 480 miles away, to arrive. Fox News has also learned that two separate Tier One Special operations forces were told to wait, among them Delta Force operators.

Watch "Special Report Investigates: Benghazi -- New Revelations" on Fox News at 1 p.m. ET on Saturday, 3 p.m. on Sunday and 10 p.m. on Sunday.

A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.
According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help.

"There's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking going on here," Panetta said Thursday. "But the basic principle here ... is that you don't deploy forces into harm's way without knowing what's going on."
U.S. officials argue that there was a period of several hours when the fighting stopped before the mortars were fired at the annex, leading officials to believe the attack was over.

Fox News has learned that there were two military surveillance drones redirected to Benghazi shortly after the attack on the consulate began. They were already in the vicinity. The second surveillance craft was sent to relieve the first drone, perhaps due to fuel issues. Both were capable of sending real time visuals back to U.S. officials in Washington, D.C. Any U.S. official or agency with the proper clearance, including the White House Situation Room, State Department, CIA, Pentagon and others, could call up that video in real time on their computers.

Tyrone Woods was later joined at the scene by fellow former Navy SEAL Glen Doherty, who was sent in from Tripoli as part of a Global Response Staff or GRS that provides security to CIA case officers and provides countersurveillance and surveillance protection. They were killed by a mortar shell at 4 a.m. Libyan time, nearly seven hours after the attack on the consulate began -- a window that represented more than enough time for the U.S. military to send back-up from nearby bases in Europe, according to sources familiar with Special Operations. Four mortars were fired at the annex. The first one struck outside the annex. Three more hit the annex.

A motorcade of dozens of Libyan vehicles, some mounted with 50 caliber machine guns, belonging to the February 17th Brigades, a Libyan militia which is friendly to the U.S., finally showed up at the CIA annex at approximately 3 a.m. An American Quick Reaction Force sent from Tripoli had arrived at the Benghazi airport at 2 a.m. (four hours after the initial attack on the consulate) and was delayed for 45 minutes at the airport because they could not at first get transportation, allegedly due to confusion among Libyan militias who were supposed to escort them to the annex, according to Benghazi sources.

The American special operators, Woods, Doherty and at least two others were part of the Global Response Staff, a CIA element, based at the CIA annex and were protecting CIA operators who were part of a mission to track and repurchase arms in Benghazi that had proliferated in the wake of Muammar Qaddafi's fall. Part of their mission was to find the more than 20,000 missing MANPADS, or shoulder-held missiles capable of bringing down a commercial aircraft. According to a source on the ground at the time of the attack, the team inside the CIA annex had captured three Libyan attackers and was forced to hand them over to the Libyans. U.S. officials do not know what happened to those three attackers and whether they were released by the Libyan forces.

Fox News has also learned that Stevens was in Benghazi that day to be present at the opening of an English-language school being started by the Libyan farmer who helped save an American pilot who had been shot down by pro-Qaddafi forces during the initial war to overthrow the regime. That farmer saved the life of the American pilot and the ambassador wanted to be present to launch the Libyan rescuer's new school.


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Tertius wrote:....I was demonstrating how the truth about the gay Ambassador murder and depraved indifference is effecting voters.
No, you were demonstrating your wingnutty fantasy involving a gay Ambassador murder and depraved indifference effecting voters.

A fantasy that only involves Democratic Presidents. Somehow the many murders of American diplomats under the previous administration don't draw the same conspiracy theories from you. Your delusions are purely partisan.

The birthers' dead horse has been flogged so thoroughly that even the stain on the pavement is disappearing, and so Faux News is sounding the nutjob clarion call to rally their legion of submorons around a different smear.

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