White supremacists have also tried to CO opt one of my favorite flags, the flag of the peoples technocratic republic of Vinland.O Really wrote:I like the "Don't tread on me" flag too, and it pisses me off that the scummiest of political groups has hijacked it. It was originally the symbol of the first Marines, and another version, with stripes, was the precursor to the current US "stars and stripes." Teaparty assholes using that flag is way worse than sleazy redneck car dealers using "Old Glory" to sell Kias.JTA wrote: I also like that Don't Tread on Me flag, but I wouldn't fly either because of what some people associate them with now. I just like people staying out of my business and leaving me alone so I try to be as inconspicuous as possible because I just want to do my thing and take it easy.
Most people in the US wouldn't recognize those flags. I didn't recognize the old Rhodesian flag. But if someone flies one of them its clear why they're doing it, since they represent apartheid era SA and Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe)By the way, there doesn't seem to be a rush to do away with the flags depicted on Dylann's jacket, wonder why that is
Being an SC citizen, your email, note or call will have far more impact, even if only one sentence long.Wneglia wrote:I just voted in an online poll to remove it....
Interestingly, SC explicitly objected to northern "states rights". Its elite didn't like that they couldn't bring their slaves with them when summering in the Hamptons, that escapees were not returned and that anti-slavery activism was tolerated.O Really wrote:... I wonder if any of them know why "states rights" was an issue in the first place....
Amazon removed confederate flags from their search results, as did Google from their "shopping" search function.O Really wrote:In 2003, Howard Dean got into hot water for wanting to be the candidate of "the guys with a Confederate flag on their pickup." I doubt anybody will pick up that particular mantle this year, even though the ridiculous Republicans rely heavily on that guy.
GoCubsGo wrote:NC Governor Wants Confederate Flag off Plates
http://www.wlos.com/news/features/top-s ... YoBLODD8v5
Dang.
Dear Gov. McCrory, Sen. Apodaca & Rep. McGrady,
I agree. Bubba can buy a slaver flag bumper sticker, our government should not be endorsing it.
That's redundant.JTA wrote:
General Lee From “Dukes of Hazzard” Losing Its Confederate FlagGoCubsGo wrote:Dang.
Dang.As South Carolina honors victims, Alabama lowers its flags
... Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley became the first southern governor to use his executive power to remove Confederate banners, as four flags with secessionist symbols were taken down Wednesday from a large monument to rebel soldiers outside that state's capitol.
"It has become a distraction all over the country right now," Bentley said. The iconic Confederate battle flag in particular "is offensive to some people because unfortunately, it's like the swastika; some people have adopted that as part of their hate-filled groups."
But in South Carolina, making any changes to "heritage" symbols requires a two-thirds supermajority of both houses of the state legislature, and while lawmakers voted overwhelmingly for a debate later this summer, few wanted to risk ugly words during a week of funerals.
Brought to the capitol in a horse-drawn carriage, Pinckney's open coffin was displayed under the dome where he served the state for nearly 20 years....
To honor him, people had to file past a statue of former Vice President John C. Calhoun, who argued in the 1820s and 1830s that slavery was a "positive good," and that states should be able to decide not to follow federal laws they don't like.
The last person to lie under the dome was former Gov. Carroll Campbell in December 2005. Pinckney will be the first African-American given the honor at least since Reconstruction.
Prodded by Gov. Nikki Haley's call to move the flag to a museum, South Carolina's lawmakers overwhelmingly agreed to revisit an uneasy compromise that has held for 15 years, since mass protests succeeded in moving the flag from atop the dome to its current spot out front.
A growing number of politicians have since called for removing Civil War-era symbols, from state flags to license plates to statues and place names....
Even the Citadel, South Carolina influential military college, whose cadets fired the first shots of the Civil War, (this week) voted in favor of moving its Confederate Naval Jack flag from its prominent place inside its main chapel to a more "appropriate" campus location....
Conservative Republican lawmakers around the South were adding their voices to these sentiments Wednesday. U.S. Senator Roger Wicker became Mississippi's second top-tier Republican to call for changing the flag that state has used since Reconstruction. Wicker said it "should be put in a museum and replaced by one that is more unifying."
Lawmakers in Tennessee said a bust of Confederate general and Ku Klux Klan leader Nathan Bedford Forrest must go from their Senate. Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe was among several state leaders taking aim at vanity license plates with Confederate symbols.
Businesses also moved quickly: Wal-Mart, e-Bay, Amazon, Target and Sears were among those removing Confederate merchandise from stores and online sites, and at least three major flag makers said they will no longer manufacture the Confederate flag....
JTA wrote:It always cracks me up when I go back home and see some dumbass of Italian descent, whose ancestors probably came to the US in the 1920s, driving a pickup with confederate flag stickers.
I just don't think the heritage argument holds up in that scenario.
Long before you joined and probably on BRN, Kernel Failure, our most vocal current defender of the slaver flag, told us that his parents (maybe grandparents) are Italian. I think you just stepped in it, opps.