Guns, race, religion, terror, wingnut thread

[Vrede too]

Is it possible the Walmart employees didn't know that that was the ISIS flag because they were ignorant of current events ? ...

That's the claim in Mr.B's quote.

... He also said that the associate making the cake didn't recognize the ISIS flag :roll and didn't know what it meant. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been made....

I don't know if the ":roll" is the author's or Mr.B's. I didn't know what the ISIS flag looked like until Mr.B posted about (hmmm) the dildo/cock ring/butt plug banner mocking those fundies in the homophobic (like ISIS and Mr.B) thread.

I do appreciate that Chuck Netzhammer from Slidell, Georgia sees the comparison between slaver flag waving US racists and ISIS. I agree.

[JTA]

Is it possible the Walmart employees didn't know that that was the ISIS flag because they were ignorant of current events ? ...

That's the claim in Mr.B's quote.

... He also said that the associate making the cake didn't recognize the ISIS flag :roll and didn't know what it meant. Otherwise, it wouldn't have been made....

I don't know if the ":roll" is the author's or Mr.B's. I didn't know what the ISIS flag looked like until Mr.B posted about (hmmm) the dildo/cock ring/butt plug banner mocking those fundies in the homophobic (like ISIS and Mr.B) thread.

I do appreciate that Chuck Netzhammer from Slidell, Georgia sees the comparison between slaver flag waving US racists and ISIS. I agree.

Alternatively, if I were working at Walmart and my boss told me not to make any confederate flag cakes, but the company didn't say anything about an ISIS flag I'd make ISIS flag cakes all day long if customers kept ordering them. Mostly because I'm getting paid peanuts and my company wouldn't hesitate to drop me at any moment but also because I think it's hilarious that some dope would order an ISIS flag cake.

I'm probably getting paid minimum wage. That's not enough money to make me give a shit about people trying to use me as a pawn to make political points so they can go "see...SEE!". I'd probably mutter under my breath " here's your shitty walmart cake that tastes like cardboard now GTFO"

[Mr.B]

For some reason, the last : from the roll got dropped from the type .....

I went back and fixed it. Thanks.

That "dildo/cock ring/butt plug banner" that Vrede keeps obsessing with really got his juices flowing; it's all that's occupied his mind since I posted that video. Hang tough, Vrede, maybe there will be a "dildo/cock ring/butt plug" banner the next time Asheville hosts another "faggot flaunt" parade! Ask politely and you might even get to carry it.

[billy.pilgrim]

Here's an article written by a real wingnutty knee-jerker ... good grief. Next they'll be calling for banning red automobiles, and banning stars in the sky ....

‘Gone with the Wind’ should go the way of the Confederate flag

"good grief" bb has made another post based on the title of an article rather than the substance. reckon he didn't have time to read all the wordie things in the actual article, or maybe he thought no one would click the link.

The article portrays Gone With the Wind as groundbreaking academy award winning art, but also as an example of the Southern myth of the benevolent slaver. The author opines that this once hugely popular film will soon find its way from theaters and tv to film and history classes.

He makes a good comparison to Griffith's Birth of a Nation; Griffith was also a groundbreaker and Birth of a Nation was the first multi-reel feature length film made is the US (maybe the world - I forget) and cinematically was well ahead of it's time, but its glorification of the kkk and it's portrayal of former slaves was shameful and now overshadows all else in the film - except for maybe film students and probably the kkk types who still roam among us expressing their shock that the slavery myths portrayed in Gone With the Wind may also find way to the dustbins of the past.

So rather than the evil liberal ban of heritage, culture and racism that bb holds so dear, the author more accurately describes how cultural progress will gradually shed it's baggage.

let's hope it sheds bb too.

[O Really]

I don't recall seeing anybody wanting to ban private use of a flag, whether the battle flag of Northern Virginia or a pirate skull and bones. The only "banning" part is from display by the government (state) as anything other than a historical item (e.g. in a museum) of any of the flags representing armed rebellion against the US. By the same token that private individuals and businesses can fly or display it if they want, others may decide not to display or sell it. Nobody is suggesting arresting Bubba for flying his stars and bars out the back of his pickup, particularly if it is installed right above the balls and doesn't block his NRA sticker. Will it become less popular to wave that particular flag - eventually, hopefully. It helps that the KKK is going to have a rally in Columbia in July to support its continued wave.

[billy.pilgrim]

I don't recall seeing anybody wanting to ban private use of a flag, whether the battle flag of Northern Virginia or a pirate skull and bones. The only "banning" part is from display by the government (state) as anything other than a historical item (e.g. in a museum) of any of the flags representing armed rebellion against the US. By the same token that private individuals and businesses can fly or display it if they want, others may decide not to display or sell it. Nobody is suggesting arresting Bubba for flying his stars and bars out the back of his pickup, particularly if it is installed right above the balls and doesn't block his NRA sticker. Will it become less popular to wave that particular flag - eventually, hopefully. It helps that the KKK is going to have a rally in Columbia in July to support its continued wave.

are you trying to make sense? the right will never understand

[O Really]

If they did, they wouldn't be "the right" would they?

[Mr.B]

"So rather than the evil liberal ban of heritage, culture and racism that bb holds so dear.... :?:

let's hope it sheds bb too."
Sorry, I'm going nowhere. Y'all just gonna have to deal with me.

[billy.pilgrim]

"So rather than the evil liberal ban of heritage, culture and racism that bb holds so dear.... :?:

let's hope it sheds bb too."
Sorry, I'm going nowhere. Y'all just gonna have to deal with me.

and you inability to make sense of what you read

[Mr.B]

"So rather than the evil liberal ban of heritage, culture and racism that bb holds so dear.... :?:

let's hope it sheds bb too."
Sorry, I'm going nowhere. Y'all just gonna have to deal with me.

and you inability to make sense of what you read.<---------

And you ability to keep us laughing at you..

[billy.pilgrim]

omg, bb found a typo and wet his diaper

[Mr.B]

omg, bb found a typo and wet his diaper

OMG, billy.pilgrim tried to form a sentence and failed at that too.

[billy.pilgrim]

omg, bb found a typo and wet his diaper

OMG, billy.pilgrim tried to form a sentence and failed at that too.

bb be getting anal in his old age.

[Mr.B]

bb be getting anal in his old age.

Does that turn you on? Sorry, I'm not into that; you've been reading too much of the homosexual thread.

[Vrede too]

Embattled rebel flag reassessed at Georgia's Stone Mountain

Sheesh, I'm as against the slaver flag as anyone, but the side of the mountain is already a slaver shrine. Leave the flags until we blow up the sculpture.

[O Really]

I have no real problem with a historical perspective of the Civil War. It was a major part of US history and basically settled the issue as to whether the US was a unified country or was a collection of un-related regions with no lasting connection. I enjoy touring the battlefields, learning about what happened there, and getting a perspective of how each side saw the conflict. But that's history. My problem now is when people use the imagery of the Civil War to support a continuation of segregation and white supremacy. The battle flag of Northern Virginia was raised from history as a rallying symbol of resistance to integration in Brown and to other civil rights as the CRA of '64. It is clear its (relatively recent) use is to support white supremacy. That doesn't necessarily apply to monuments to Confederate dead and particularly not to battlefield parks where monuments to both sides are found. So let Stone Mountain be what it is. Just don't fly the flag over the state house.

[Seth Milner]

You want to know what's really strange? All this fuss over a flag, a fuss that's been going on for years. One fateful day, a mentally defunct kid from a mentally defunct family commits mass murder in a Black church. Because a photo shows him holding a rebel/Confederate flag, the flag is at fault and screams of "take down the flag" reverberate across the country. Businesses seeing a threat to their dollar, pull all Confederate flag-oriented merchandise from their shelves and inventories. Current politicians using the issue in hopes of one day to be re-elected along with future political wannabes join in wanting to shine in the eyes of their constituents. Flags come down in various locations across the country, including historic Fort Sumter, S.C., The General Lee gets a new paint job, Confederate monuments are vandalized, etc., etc., etc.

The anti-flaggers win. But...in a strange twist of fate, a racist, mentally defunct murderer shines as their hero; he's the one who broke the camel's back in the "Take Down The Confederate Flag" movement.

Yessir, it's the flag's fault alright.

[GoCubsGo]

Law of unintended consequences.......an ironic legacy.......chaos theory doing its thing.

It won't bring those nine people back, does nothing for their families, but does shine a light on a symbol that deeply insults many of a bygone era.
Let that be Dylann's legacy.

[Vrede too]

It's weird how someone supposedly having investigative journalism as a career is so clueless about both current events and how political and social change works. No one is saying "it's the flag's fault", just as no one said that Jim Crow was the Montgomery bus company's fault. However, one woman refusing to give up her seat contributed to enormous change.

[Mr.B]

"But...in a strange twist of fate, a racist, mentally defunct murderer shines as their hero; he's the one who broke the camel's back in the "Take Down The Confederate Flag" movement."

Maybe you should have said "un-wittingly shines as their hero.."

"It won't bring those nine people back, does nothing for their families, but does shine a light on a symbol that deeply insults many of a bygone era."

:?: :?: But not today?