Election Poll Points to Bias by Race

[Tertius]

Mondays edition IBD has published a tracking poll (Oct. 20-25) showing Obama has an overall lead 46.9 to 44.6%. Demographic variables should point to a bias based on a particular demographic. White likely voters favor Romney 53 to 39%. Black voters favor Obama 80 to 13%. No other demographic is so bias: not region, religion, age, gender, income, education, household description union, urban, suburban, or rural.

Racism is an often used accusation on this board. However, the numbers clearly show that the demographic that is the most bigoted is blacks.

A problem cannot be solved until those with the problem are willing to admit to it. And, this is not to say all blacks are bigoted but clearly a number around 37% are.

I am sure some white voters are casting their vote based on race but number is likely around 3%.

There will always be a few regardless of race but clearly those slinging the accusations are judging the majority of us whites by the trivial few.

When one is comfortable that they are and live their life free or racial prejudice; they feel free to ask tough questions. This always brings out the charge of asking such questions as bias. No such thing can be more untrue. We that ask the tough questions of race are only trying to solve the problem.

Those that deny the problem will charge that I or anyone else using poll facts. Do not understand how to read statistics. All the while not giving any data or statistical evidence other than ad hominem.

If we could lets try to discuss this evidence. Contrary evidence can be presented or If you question the study look at the IBD poll itself. (FYI, IBD stands for Investors Business Daily published in LA, CA.)

[\V/]

Mondays edition IBD has published a tracking poll (Oct. 20-25) showing Obama has an overall lead 46.9 to 44.6%. Demographic variables should point to a bias based on a particular demographic. White likely voters favor Romney 53 to 39%. Black voters favor Obama 80 to 13%. No other demographic is so bias: not region, religion, age, gender, income, education, household description union, urban, suburban, or rural.

Racism is an often used accusation on this board. However, the numbers clearly show that the demographic that is the most bigoted is blacks.

A problem cannot be solved until those with the problem are willing to admit to it. And, this is not to say all blacks are bigoted but clearly a number around 37% are.

I am sure some white voters are casting their vote based on race but number is likely around 3%.

There will always be a few regardless of race but clearly those slinging the accusations are judging the majority of us whites by the trivial few.

When one is comfortable that they are and live their life free or racial prejudice; they feel free to ask tough questions. This always brings out the charge of asking such questions as bias. No such thing can be more untrue. We that ask the tough questions of race are only trying to solve the problem.

Those that deny the problem will charge that I or anyone else using poll facts. Do not understand how to read statistics. All the while not giving any data or statistical evidence other than ad hominem.

If we could lets try to discuss this evidence. Contrary evidence can be presented or If you question the study look at the IBD poll itself. (FYI, IBD stands for Investors Business Daily published in LA, CA.)

I'm pretty sure this "evidence" you present, still stands within the bounds of 'majority' rules
Isn't that how democratic elections are conducted???

[Reality]

So Vrede, can racial bias fly both ways or is racial bias only a white on black thing?

[rstrong]

White likely voters favor Romney 53 to 39%. Black voters favor Obama 80 to 13%. No other demographic is so bias: not region, religion, age, gender, income, education, household description union, urban, suburban, or rural.

No-one disagrees that blacks are averaging a lower income than whites. According to the US Census Bureau, 86.01% of all households with upper-middle range incomes of over $55,331 were White. Only 7.37% were Black.

FAR more blacks - working hard, paying paroll and other taxes - are likely to be in the 47% that Romney has declared to be parasites.

This election cycle the Republicans have openly been working hard to bring back Jim Crow laws, laws that will prevent racial minorities from voting far more than whites.

With the Republican Party having written them off - and worse - and trying to stop them from voting, OF COURSE they're not voting Republican.

Come on, Tertius, think.

[Stinger]

I hate to keep addressing ignorant, uninformed people who keep adding 2 and 2 and getting 11.3794281, but this forum seems to have a more-than-ample supply of such posters.

Blacks traditionally vote Democratic. It's not a race thing. To try to make it a race thing just shows how uninformed you are and/or how impaired your thinking process is.

Blacks voted over 90% for Obama in 2008. Blacks voted 93% for Kerry in 2004, 95% for Gore in 2000, 96% for Clinton in 1996. going back to 94% for Johnson in 1964. LINK

If it were strictly race, blacks would support Allen West and would have supported Herman Cain. They don't, and they didn't.

Thoroughly discredits your little attempt to arrive at a logical conclusion based on factual evidence. Don't know if it's simply inability or lack of practice.

Either way, you should stick with your baseless, delusional supposition. It's what you're best at.

And you should apologize for wrongly accusing blacks of being racist.

[Tertius]

Mondays edition IBD has published a tracking poll (Oct. 20-25) showing Obama has an overall lead 46.9 to 44.6%. Demographic variables should point to a bias based on a particular demographic. White likely voters favor Romney 53 to 39%. Black voters favor Obama 80 to 13%. No other demographic is so bias: not region, religion, age, gender, income, education, household description union, urban, suburban, or rural.

Racism is an often used accusation on this board. However, the numbers clearly show that the demographic that is the most bigoted is blacks.

A problem cannot be solved until those with the problem are willing to admit to it. And, this is not to say all blacks are bigoted but clearly a number around 37% are.

I am sure some white voters are casting their vote based on race but number is likely around 3%.

There will always be a few regardless of race but clearly those slinging the accusations are judging the majority of us whites by the trivial few.

When one is comfortable that they are and live their life free or racial prejudice; they feel free to ask tough questions. This always brings out the charge of asking such questions as bias. No such thing can be more untrue. We that ask the tough questions of race are only trying to solve the problem.

Those that deny the problem will charge that I or anyone else using poll facts. Do not understand how to read statistics. All the while not giving any data or statistical evidence other than ad hominem.

If we could lets try to discuss this evidence. Contrary evidence can be presented or If you question the study look at the IBD poll itself. (FYI, IBD stands for Investors Business Daily published in LA, CA.)

I'm pretty sure this "evidence" you present, still stands within the bounds of 'majority' rules
Isn't that how democratic elections are conducted???

We are a republic. Yes, the majority of voters do elect our representatives.
The topic is not the, or an election. The topic is not the fact that we are a Republic.
The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites. I believe this problem has grown during the Obama administration. The evidence seems to indicate I am correct.

[rstrong]

We are a republic.

No one denies this or wrote otherwise.

America is a democracy. America is a republic. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites.

A claim that has been addressed here and debunked.

[Stinger]

We are a republic. Yes, the majority of voters do elect our representatives.
The topic is not the, or an election. The topic is not the fact that we are a Republic.
The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites. I believe this problem has grown during the Obama administration. The evidence seems to indicate I am correct.

While I really enjoy you continuing to make a complete ass of yourself, try reading this:

I hate to keep addressing ignorant, uninformed people who keep adding 2 and 2 and getting 11.3794281, but this forum seems to have a more-than-ample supply of such posters.

Blacks traditionally vote Democratic. It's not a race thing. To try to make it a race thing just shows how uninformed you are and/or how impaired your thinking process is.

Blacks voted over 90% for Obama in 2008. Blacks voted 93% for Kerry in 2004, 95% for Gore in 2000, 96% for Clinton in 1996. going back to 94% for Johnson in 1964. LINK

If it were strictly race, blacks would support Allen West and would have supported Herman Cain. They don't, and they didn't.

Thoroughly discredits your little attempt to arrive at a logical conclusion based on factual evidence. Don't know if it's simply inability or lack of practice.

Either way, you should stick with your baseless, delusional supposition. It's what you're best at.

And you should apologize for wrongly accusing blacks of being racist.

Proof that it's party and policy, not race. That the proof was up there before you made your latest post makes you look rather dense and foolish.

SSDD.

If you still don't get it, see if you can get a relatively bright elementary student to read it and explain it to you.

[Tertius]

We are a republic. Yes, the majority of voters do elect our representatives.
The topic is not the, or an election. The topic is not the fact that we are a Republic.
The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites. I believe this problem has grown during the Obama administration. The evidence seems to indicate I am correct.

While I really enjoy you continuing to make a complete ass of yourself, try reading this:

I hate to keep addressing ignorant, uninformed people who keep adding 2 and 2 and getting 11.3794281, but this forum seems to have a more-than-ample supply of such posters.

Blacks traditionally vote Democratic. It's not a race thing. To try to make it a race thing just shows how uninformed you are and/or how impaired your thinking process is.

Blacks voted over 90% for Obama in 2008. Blacks voted 93% for Kerry in 2004, 95% for Gore in 2000, 96% for Clinton in 1996. going back to 94% for Johnson in 1964. LINK

If it were strictly race, blacks would support Allen West and would have supported Herman Cain. They don't, and they didn't.

Thoroughly discredits your little attempt to arrive at a logical conclusion based on factual evidence. Don't know if it's simply inability or lack of practice.

Either way, you should stick with your baseless, delusional supposition. It's what you're best at.

And you should apologize for wrongly accusing blacks of being racist.

Proof that it's party and policy, not race. That the proof was up there before you made your latest post makes you look rather dense and foolish.

SSDD.

If you still don't get it, see if you can get a relatively bright elementary student to read it and explain it to you.

I get it. A vile reply from an ignorant person that is incapable of having a factual debate.

[Stinger]

We are a republic. Yes, the majority of voters do elect our representatives.
The topic is not the, or an election. The topic is not the fact that we are a Republic.
The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites. I believe this problem has grown during the Obama administration. The evidence seems to indicate I am correct.

While I really enjoy you continuing to make a complete ass of yourself, try reading this:

I hate to keep addressing ignorant, uninformed people who keep adding 2 and 2 and getting 11.3794281, but this forum seems to have a more-than-ample supply of such posters.

Blacks traditionally vote Democratic. It's not a race thing. To try to make it a race thing just shows how uninformed you are and/or how impaired your thinking process is.

Blacks voted over 90% for Obama in 2008. Blacks voted 93% for Kerry in 2004, 95% for Gore in 2000, 96% for Clinton in 1996. going back to 94% for Johnson in 1964. LINK

If it were strictly race, blacks would support Allen West and would have supported Herman Cain. They don't, and they didn't.

Thoroughly discredits your little attempt to arrive at a logical conclusion based on factual evidence. Don't know if it's simply inability or lack of practice.

Either way, you should stick with your baseless, delusional supposition. It's what you're best at.

And you should apologize for wrongly accusing blacks of being racist.

Proof that it's party and policy, not race. That the proof was up there before you made your latest post makes you look rather dense and foolish.

SSDD.

If you still don't get it, see if you can get a relatively bright elementary student to read it and explain it to you.

I get it. A vile reply from an ignorant person that is incapable of having a factual debate.

Look! Another cowardly cut-and-run from the forum toddler who can't keep up his end of an adult discussion.

Funny how the "ignorant" person knows what he's talking about and has the facts to back him up, while you refuse to acknowledge the facts and continue with your willful ignorance.

When the facts shoot down your contention, you should man up and admit it.

Or, do you cowardly cut-and-run. We all know what you will do.

[Reality]

Hmm let's see. Vrede works in the medical field and said either in this thread or another thread that she has prospered during the Obama years and she makes cutting remarks towards those that are paid by the government, municipal, county, state, or federal. Now I'm thinking a very large part of her pay check is second tier money that came from one level of government or another. Two faced is to kind for the infamous Vred.

[Stinger]

Hmm let's see. Vrede works in the medical field and said either in this thread or another thread that she has prospered during the Obama years and she makes cutting remarks towards those that are paid by the government, municipal, county, state, or federal. Now I'm thinking a very large part of her pay check is second tier money that came from one level of government or another. Two faced is to kind for the infamous Vred.

More off-topic carping from the sidelines by the forum harpy.

Best you can do, I guess.

SSDD.

[Tertius]

Hmm let's see. Vrede works in the medical field ...

Maybe if washing bed-pans is considered part of the medical field. As for prospering her food stamp money must have increased.

If only there was one liberal member that could debate on facts. If only when they said something was untrue they could offer evidence.

Liberals with that ability would post proof if there was any. Since there is none they are smart enough to remain quiet.

So all there is to do is keep posting the facts against the Obama administration.

[Crock Hunter]

Hmm let's see. Vrede works in the medical field ...

Maybe if washing bed-pans is considered part of the medical field. As for prospering her food stamp money must have increased.

If only there was one liberal member that could debate on facts. If only when they said something was untrue they could offer evidence.

No.. all of your imaginary "facts" were thoroughly debunked..

Now as for your nitwit conspiracies?? As I've said before.. to the contemporary wingnut .. any proof offered to debunk a conspiracy.. is proof of a conspiracy to cover up the conspiracy..

Once such nonsense in in the rightwing head.. not only does it rattle around like a marble in a box.. it becomes forever stuck..

No degree of real world fact will sway the rightwinger who does not value facts.. i.e. all of them..

.

[rstrong]

Speaking of election poll bias, the far right has finally noticed that university students tend to disagree with them. So now they're trying to have the voting age raised from 18 to 21.

Along the way they've labelled 18 to 21 year old students immature ignoramuses.

[Bungalow Bill]

Guess somebody missed the first few hundred years of slavery and segregation. It won't
be the first time.

You mean facts like Obama set up Stevens because Stevens was gay, that Obama might have
orchestrated the embassy attacks himself, or that he has a magic Islamic ring? Those kinds of
facts. What a dipshit.

[Stinger]

f only there was one liberal member that could debate on facts. If only when they said something was untrue they could offer evidence.

There are a lot more than one. You just haven't been able to keep up.

Your mistake is that you confuse what you believe with reality. They are not related in the slightest.

We debate with facts from credible sources and supply links to those sources.

You wander about pronouncing that things have been proven for which you have posted no proof.

Your inability to think and understand basic statistics is the sole reason for this thread.

That you are still here babbling about liberals and facts after liberals WITH facts shot down your dimwitted assertion shows what a laughable twit you are.

Liberals with that ability would post proof if there was any.

i did. Twice.

Since there is none they are smart enough to remain quiet.

Let me type this slowly in hopes you get it this time.

I DID POST PROOF TO DISCREDIT YOUR ASININE ASSUMPTION!! TWICE!!!

WHY HAVEN'T YOU BEEN SMART ENOUGH TO READ IT?

Was that "unquiet" enough for you?

So all there is to do is keep posting the facts against the Obama administration.

I think you meant "start" rather than "keep." You haven't posted any facts against Obama, and you certainly haven't posted one single, solitary fact in support of your idiotic conspiracy theory.

[Stinger]

We are a republic. Yes, the majority of voters do elect our representatives.
The topic is not the, or an election. The topic is not the fact that we are a Republic.
The topic is based on the bias demonstrated by election polls, how, when and where are we going to attack black bigotry against whites. I believe this problem has grown during the Obama administration. The evidence seems to indicate I am correct.

While I really enjoy you continuing to make a complete ass of yourself, try reading this:

I hate to keep addressing ignorant, uninformed people who keep adding 2 and 2 and getting 11.3794281, but this forum seems to have a more-than-ample supply of such posters.

Blacks traditionally vote Democratic. It's not a race thing. To try to make it a race thing just shows how uninformed you are and/or how impaired your thinking process is.

Blacks voted over 90% for Obama in 2008. Blacks voted 93% for Kerry in 2004, 95% for Gore in 2000, 96% for Clinton in 1996. going back to 94% for Johnson in 1964. LINK

If it were strictly race, blacks would support Allen West and would have supported Herman Cain. They don't, and they didn't.

Thoroughly discredits your little attempt to arrive at a logical conclusion based on factual evidence. Don't know if it's simply inability or lack of practice.

Either way, you should stick with your baseless, delusional supposition. It's what you're best at.

And you should apologize for wrongly accusing blacks of being racist.

Proof that it's party and policy, not race. That the proof was up there before you made your latest post makes you look rather dense and foolish.

SSDD.

If you still don't get it, see if you can get a relatively bright elementary student to read it and explain it to you.

I get it. A vile reply from an ignorant person that is incapable of having a factual debate.

Look! Another cowardly cut-and-run from the forum toddler who can't keep up his end of an adult discussion.

Funny how the "ignorant" person knows what he's talking about and has the facts to back him up, while you refuse to acknowledge the facts and continue with your willful ignorance.

When the facts shoot down your contention, you should man up and admit it.

Or, do you cowardly cut-and-run. We all know what you will do.

MAKE THAT THREE TIMES!!!!!

I wonder if he'll get it this time.

[mike]

Innate racists never understand the stupidity they present but thanks for trying to clue them in, Stinger.

Sadly, I believe it is a fruitless endeavor.

[Stinger]

Innate racists never understand the stupidity they present but thanks for trying to clue them in, Stinger.

Sadly, I believe it is a fruitless endeavor.

Hey, you got that I successfully debated on the facts on the first try.

I wonder what Turdwhistle's problem is.