The Food Thread

[O Really]

In discourse over his obvious superiority to you, Homo offered to show you the "gas petal." Must be some flowery Freudian slip.

[Seth Milner]

Yep, I chose a profession where all of my peers are college educated and some are post-grad, while most are women. Otoh, you chose a career where most of your colleagues have just high school educations and many barely that, and the vast majority of the people you work and bunk with are men. Hmmm.

As for the education levels of the "vast majority" you speak of, just hope that their uneducated skills will never be needed when you and the "vast majority" of sorry asses are worrying about your survival and who will be there to protect you. As for my personal education level, all I can do is laugh at your poor pitiful attempt to appear great in front of your fellow forum members. Tell you what, I'll come get the splinter out of your heel and you come show me how to crank an engine on a nuclear sub.
(p.s. I'll help you out just a bit; I'll show you where the brake, clutch, and gas petal is.)

Despite the caustic nature of this recent post, he does have a point. There are many skilled and unskilled workers that perform a valuable service; some to simply survive, others to serve, the latter of which I am thankful. Whether it's the burger-flipper at McD's, the street sweeper, the sewer worker, truck driver, and on and on; in some way they perform a service that many of us turn up our noses at while patronizing the businesses or services, but yet wouldn't be caught dead doing those jobs. To run someone down because of their employment choices is just outright wrong. As stated, I hope we never need the services of our brave military men and women, regardless of their education or skills abilities. If it came a time their services were called upon because our country was in harm's way, we should be most appreciative of their expertise for which they were trained. OTOH, we may even need the services of the workers at McD's to help in food distribution, the sweepers to clean up the mess, the sewer workers to keep our infrastructure working. . .and on and on.

[O Really]

Yeah, I thought about that when Rand Paul (I think) said income equality occurs because some people work harder than others. What bullshit. Working hard has little to do with it. If working hard was what mattered, trash collectors, Florida roofers, and ummm "imported" landscape people would be mega-rich.

[Seth Milner]

Yeah, I thought about that when Rand Paul (I think) said income equality occurs because some people work harder than others. What bullshit. Working hard has little to do with it. If working hard was what mattered, trash collectors, Florida roofers, and ummm "imported" landscape people would be mega-rich.

Absolutely!

[billy.pilgrim]

Yeah, I thought about that when Rand Paul (I think) said income equality occurs because some people work harder than others. What bullshit. Working hard has little to do with it. If working hard was what mattered, trash collectors, Florida roofers, and ummm "imported" landscape people would be mega-rich.

Absolutely!

born on 3rd base syndrome brought to you by Barbara bush through her sons George W. bush and jebbers

'poor people just need to work more
look how much better off these people are living on cots in the astro dome - many have never had it so good

and the Iraqi war brought to you by hate and bitterness (toward FDR and all things liberal) from ba-ba's breakfast table - remember children, a war president always gets what he wants

[Vrede too]

... To run someone down because of their employment choices is just outright wrong....

Tit for tat, didn't you notice? Your hypocrisy is showing, again.

Besides, I did not disparage any of the long list of irrelevant occupations you cite. Rather, I accurately described homerfobe's and my life choices when he failed so miserably at disparaging mine with a gay obsessive, as usual, stereotype that was moronic 30 years ago and that's not an insult even if it was accurate.

It's fine with me that he chose to spend his entire career almost exclusively with men (hmmm), most of them uneducated. Why do you think he deliberately decided to exclude my very next sentence?

Being In the Navy has it's rewarding moments, don't it? Nttawwt.

Without it, he doesn't seem so whiny, stupid and desperate to defend himself against . . . who knows what?

Beyond that, you're both deluded about the actual role of the US military in our lifetimes. It's done little actual protecting of us while simultaneously acting to project economic colonialism, butcher untold numbers and maintain our gluttonous lifestyle. Not that we don't need some military, but the one we've got harms America far more than it helps us - enormous cost, massive pollution, huge job creating inefficiency, loss of freedom and privacy, and of course the 12 1/2 year ongoing Iraq fiasco. We are less safe now than we were in February 2003 thanks to "our brave military men and women", regardless of their good intentions.

Btw, look up the stats on dangerous occupations. The military as a whole, especially the Navy, ain't one of them. I risk disease, mechanical injury, violence and perhaps even death from one of these causes every single shift. In contrast, homerfobe may have spent his entire career without ever getting close to combat, and he certainly doesn't see it at his age. Who is the "brave" one?

[O Really]

I'm not entirely sure it was the military who made the go/no go decisions in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. To be sure, a warrior wants to be a warrior, but it is the politicians, doing the bidding of those who own them, who keep starting and continuing wars.

[Vrede too]

I'm not entirely sure it was the military who made the go/no go decisions in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. To be sure, a warrior wants to be a warrior, but it is the politicians, doing the bidding of those who own them, who keep starting and continuing wars.

Agreed, my comment was solely about real world effect, not the causes, since homerfobe spewed the myth of "protect" and Seth Milner parroted him.

That said, there's a lot of military tail wagging the politician dogs. It's core mission is not freedom, democracy or any of that other Ooh-rah BS. Instead, it's justifying itself and its budget that's greater than the next 20 or so countries' war budgets put together.

[Wneglia]

Depends on how you calculate the spending.

[Vrede too]

That's a useful chart and still not very flattering to the US - Saudi Arabia has money to burn and oil riches to protect while Israel is surrounded by hostiles and has apartheid to maintain - but since you can't add percents of GDP it's not a different way to calculate the statement I made. Which would seem more outrageous to you - a poor urban resident spending 4.8% of income on a home security system or Donald Trump spending 4.8% of his income on a private army?


Top five countries by military expenditure in 2014.
According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

The chart below puts it at about the next 9 combined that we spend more than. Maybe I was thinking of a US military budget that's greater than the next 20 or so countries' that are potential enemies war budgets put together . . .
. . . even if we leave France on the list.

[JTA]

Would you like to spend an evening dining here?

I bet the chicken I grill up tastes 10 times better than that fake fancy stuff they charge a ton of money for. And if it doesn't it will after you gulp down a six pack of bud light with me.

I bet a tub of the Colonel's finest would outshine any of that fancy, syrupy mess that can be found in some of these snob palaces. A mess of wings and thighs on the barbie just can't be beat though!

I'm sure your chicken is delicious. Except - if you have to chase it with Bud Lite, it's pretty awful. Or if it's not awful,
the Bud Lite will ruin it. Either way...

Not exactly my first choice, but an ice cold Bud Light just ain't the worst you could do.

I know you guys are all like "get this fool out of here." but I'm going to show you a pic of my chicken, so long as you all promise you're over the age of 18.

I'm over 18, but I think I'll pass at looking at your chicken!! (re: trucker's CB lingo, circa early 1980's )

Seth, how do you like my chicken? Ay yo u wan sumadis ay ay?

[Seth Milner]

Seth, how do you like my chicken? Ay yo u wan sumadis ay ay?

Slurp!

[JTA]

Seth, how do you like my chicken? Ay yo u wan sumadis ay ay?

Slurp!

Teriyaki, Bragg's amino acid (soy sauce basically), lil bit of butter, garlic, onions and kale.

[O Really]

Looks very good, dude.
You're not really ruining it with Bud Lite, are you?

[Seth Milner]

... To run someone down because of their employment choices is just outright wrong....

Tit for tat, didn't you notice? Your hypocrisy is showing, again.
How so? Despite what you said, it was not my intent to vilify you with my reply; I was generalizing. Sorry about that. You take offense too easily.

Besides, I did not disparage any of the long list of irrelevant occupations you cite.
No, you didn't; again, I was generalizing.

Rather, I accurately described homerfobe's and my life choices when he failed so miserably at disparaging mine with a gay obsessive, as usual, stereotype that was moronic 30 years ago and that's not an insult even if it was accurate.
I'm staying out of that one.

It's fine with me that he chose to spend his entire career almost exclusively with men (hmmm), most of them uneducated. Why do you think he deliberately decided to exclude my very next sentence?

Being In the Navy has it's rewarding moments, don't it? Nttawwt.

Without it, he doesn't seem so whiny, stupid and desperate to defend himself against . . . who knows what?
He did comment on it; I chose not to quote him on it. You'll have to read it yourself.

Beyond that, you're both deluded about the actual role of the US military in our lifetimes. It's done little actual protecting of us while simultaneously acting to project economic colonialism, butcher untold numbers and maintain our gluttonous lifestyle. Not that we don't need some military, but the one we've got harms America far more than it helps us - enormous cost, massive pollution, huge job creating inefficiency, loss of freedom and privacy, and of course the 12 1/2 year ongoing Iraq fiasco. We are less safe now than we were in February 2003 thanks to "our brave military men and women", regardless of their good intentions.
Nothing is perfect. The "brave military men and women" I speak of do not make their own decisions; rather they are made by the dumbasses we elect to government offices, and their political affiliations have no bearing on many unpopular decisions.
Think about the possibility of the U.S. not even having a military, period. We all would be whining about not having any protection (or freedoms) should a foreign power decide we were ripe for the pickings. Good 'ol country boys with their squirrel rifles and AK47's just is no match for, say the Taliban, ISIS, China, or Russia.

Btw, look up the stats on dangerous occupations. The military as a whole, especially the Navy, ain't one of them.
The most dangerous occupations in this country are those whose employees fear for their lives at the hands of own citizens. The Navy is one of our first lines of defense; they fly planes too, you know.

I risk disease, mechanical injury, violence and perhaps even death from one of these causes every single shift. In contrast, homerfobe may have spent his entire career without ever getting close to combat, and he certainly doesn't see it at his age. Who is the "brave" one?
I am not defending homerfobe; I think he's full of shit. . .or hot air. Whatever your duties in the medical field, yes, I would say you are the bravest. Lot of weirdo's out there.

Now, back to the food thread.

[Vrede too]

... To run someone down because of their employment choices is just outright wrong....

Tit for tat, didn't you notice? Your hypocrisy is showing, again.
How so? Despite what you said, it was not my intent to vilify you with my reply; I was generalizing. Sorry about that. You take offense too easily.

Besides, I did not disparage any of the long list of irrelevant occupations you cite.
No, you didn't; again, I was generalizing.

Dang, you're dishonest when you're busted. There is no way that your post can be read as anything other than a post exclusively aimed at me. You began it with, "he (homerfobe) does have a point," chose not to include the healthcare workers he disparaged in the long list of undervalued occupations you offered up, and went on to extol the soldiers he and you thought I individually panned. Unless you're again claiming to be too illiterate to understand your own posts, you should man up.

Rather, I accurately described homerfobe's and my life choices when he failed so miserably at disparaging mine with a gay obsessive, as usual, stereotype that was moronic 30 years ago and that's not an insult even if it was accurate.
I'm staying out of that one.

That's always your defense when you take a position and screw up - "I'm really neutral."

It's fine with me that he chose to spend his entire career almost exclusively with men (hmmm), most of them uneducated. Why do you think he deliberately decided to exclude my very next sentence?

Being In the Navy has it's rewarding moments, don't it? Nttawwt.

Without it, he doesn't seem so whiny, stupid and desperate to defend himself against . . . who knows what?
He did comment on it; I chose not to quote him on it. You'll have to read it yourself.

My bad. homerfobe, I apologize for it not occurring to me that your post was edited. As usual, I'm passing on Seth Milner's suggestion that I look, you're too insignificant for the effort.

Seth Milner deliberately decided to exclude my very next sentence so that . . . whatever it was he was attempting.

Beyond that, you're both deluded about the actual role of the US military in our lifetimes. It's done little actual protecting of us while simultaneously acting to project economic colonialism, butcher untold numbers and maintain our gluttonous lifestyle. Not that we don't need some military, but the one we've got harms America far more than it helps us - enormous cost, massive pollution, huge job creating inefficiency, loss of freedom and privacy, and of course the 12 1/2 year ongoing Iraq fiasco. We are less safe now than we were in February 2003 thanks to "our brave military men and women", regardless of their good intentions.
Nothing is perfect. The "brave military men and women" I speak of do not make their own decisions; rather they are made by the dumbasses we elect to government offices, and their political affiliations have no bearing on many unpopular decisions.

I did not mention "their political affiliations" - straw man.

In fact, I posted, "regardless of their good intentions," as you quoted, and then I added, "Agreed, my comment was solely about real world effect, not the causes". Didn't you notice?

Think about the possibility of the U.S. not even having a military, period. We all would be whining about not having any protection (or freedoms) should a foreign power decide we were ripe for the pickings. Good 'ol country boys with their squirrel rifles and AK47's just is no match for, say the Taliban, ISIS, China, or Russia.

Another straw man. As I posted and you quoted, "Not that we don't need some military".

The fact is that we have not been invaded since 1812.

Btw, look up the stats on dangerous occupations. The military as a whole, especially the Navy, ain't one of them.
The most dangerous occupations in this country are those whose employees fear for their lives at the hands of own citizens.

Nope, unless you mean their bosses.

The Most Dangerous Jobs in America

Cops are #16. Also, the list doesn't even include the military, as I said.

No one ever discusses "our brave" fishermen and women, loggers, pilots, farmers, ranchers, construction laborers, sanitation workers, roofers, drillers, merchant mariners, truck drivers, linemen and women, coal miners, groundskeepers, and taxi and limousine drivers, as you did with "our brave military men and women". (I didn't include #8 "Structural Iron and Steel Workers" since almost any talk about them rapidly lauds their bravery)

The Navy is one of our first lines of defense; they fly planes too, you know.

The Navy mostly serves to defend the perceived interests of the pols you and O Really cite (and I agree with you about) and to project US authority upon others. It's been a long time since it did much actual defending of us.

I risk disease, mechanical injury, violence and perhaps even death from one of these causes every single shift. In contrast, homerfobe may have spent his entire career without ever getting close to combat, and he certainly doesn't see it at his age. Who is the "brave" one?
I am not defending homerfobe; I think he's full of shit. . .or hot air. Whatever your duties in the medical field, yes, I would say you are the bravest. Lot of weirdo's out there.

Thank you. Yep, it's far more likely that weirdo homerfobe will one day be a patient of mine than that he will ever protect me from anything.

Now, back to the food thread.

Maybe, homerfobe already turned waffles into his gay male sex obsession once. We'll see.

[Vrede too]

Looks very good, dude.
You're not really ruining it with Bud Lite, are you?

JTA forgot to mention the marinade.

[Seth Milner]

One more:

The fact is that we have not been invaded since 1812.

Invaded, no. Attacked, yes; 2001

[Vrede too]

True, attacks on shipping (often on "neutral" war material), an attack on our Navy at Pearl, an Aleutian incursion and terrorism from religious fanatics, the left and more often the right, but homerfobe's "nuclear sub" did not stop 9/11. The end results of these, the absence of an actual invasion since 1812 and the extremely remote possibility of, "should a foreign power decide we were ripe for the pickings," is little justification for the massive and obscene size of our military.

Otoh, impositions on us by our own military are routine and huge.

Don't get me wrong, I support some of the things our military has done. However, defending or achieving Americans' freedom ain't been one of them since 1865.

[Vrede too]

Intersting article on Gluten "Sensitivity"

Experts: Health 'gurus' spread food fears

Glutenphobia is mentioned. Much of what I eat is organic and I'd guess that it's healthier on average, but my main reason for doing so is the front end effect on the environment of agricultural choices.