OK cream is the third ingredient.Vrede wrote:Tertius wrote:No, he is more like fat free half and half. Half milk; half cream and nothing good.
It's not "half cream", that's why it's "fat free".Quoting the ingredient list: "Ingredients: Nonfat milk, milk*, corn syrup solids, artificial color**, sugar, dipotassium phosphate, sodium citrate, mono and diglycerides*, carageenan, natural and artifical flavors, vitamin A palmitate.
*Adds a trivial amount of fat
**An ingredient not normally found in half and half."
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Still stuck on Bush?Bungalow Bill wrote:
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You're going to be consistent and credit Bush's policies, right?Vrede wrote:I can't say about Crock Hunter, but my economic situation has improved, I'm getting raises and all the hours I want compared to the cut back in hours and raise freeze I got thanks to Shrub, and I haven't been attacked by the enemy and am not still paying for Iraq combat.gongoozler wrote:How's that been working for you?Crock Hunter wrote:What's destructive about an improving economy, more private sector jobs and a more contained enemy?
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Only because he was the president at the time, and also to give a little remedial math
lesson: 4 < 3,000.
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Wrong, I checked both cartons, different brands, cream listed as the third ingredient.Vrede wrote:Nope, not an ingredient at all. Read much?Tertius wrote:OK cream is the third ingredient.
When I post something I believe it is true. When challenged specifically on facts, as you did this time, I check.
I checked. Natural sweeteners are mixed with cream which is mixed with skim milk.
Try challenging more with facts like you did this time and everyone will learn more. If they want to.
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So you think the deaths of 4 Americans and covering it up is OK because you can now BLAME Bush a Decade later. Love the liberal mentality. But since you brought it up Bush was Pres. for what 8 months when 9/11 occurred and most with half a brain know all the training even here in the US was under Clinton's watch. Being a liberal you accept that.
Here Obama has been POTUS for FOUR NEARLY YEARS. I figure if I supported Obama I would deny that myself.
Here Obama has been POTUS for FOUR NEARLY YEARS. I figure if I supported Obama I would deny that myself.

Bungalow Bill wrote:
Only because he was the president at the time, and also to give a little remedial math
lesson: 4 < 3,000.
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Randy is well known for his stream of bullshit rants.. .. . he can channel Limpbaugh and Hannity simultaneously...rstrong wrote:That's a favorite wingnut "debate" method. You post a wall of text containing so many half-truths, misrepresentations and outright lies that no-one will bother to debunk them all. It makes no difference that they've all been thoroughly debunked previously; you declare victory (in your own little mind) when even one of the claims is not addressed on the spot.Ragin Rebel wrote:(blather)
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I cannot vote for Obama. We must try something new. Obama might mean well but we cannot take another 4 year chance. We must have more jobs so pay can go up. Many are not working. More are working more and earning less.
I think Obama is hiding something. The Libya thing smells.
I am going to carry a folding chair and lunch to vote.
I think Obama is hiding something. The Libya thing smells.
I am going to carry a folding chair and lunch to vote.
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So in your skewed view, Bush, 4 years out, gets the blame for our current economic situation, but not the credit for any successes.Vrede wrote:For the improvement in my situation that occurred in 2010? No.gongoozler wrote:You're going to be consistent and credit Bush's policies, right?Vrede wrote:I can't say about Crock Hunter, but my economic situation has improved, I'm getting raises and all the hours I want compared to the cut back in hours and raise freeze I got thanks to Shrub, and I haven't been attacked by the enemy and am not still paying for Iraq combat.gongoozler wrote:How's that been working for you?Crock Hunter wrote:What's destructive about an improving economy, more private sector jobs and a more contained enemy?
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Damn Libtard's just can't figure it out. Obama is a failure and a second term would be even worse. If Romney is victorious and turns this country's economy around, he will serve 8 years, then I predict Ryan will then take the office of president for another 8 years, and then Ryan's VP another 8. You may never see another Democrap POTUS in your lifetimes!!!
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama
The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.
The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.
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I just have to say that the above is the most insane bunch of bullshit ever conceived by mankind. I would further like to say that I believe this ragin redneck is none other than the taxpayer funded brain damaged half baked fireman formerly known as nutcar88. But I could be wrong, but in this particular case it woudn't matter anyway, as ragin redneck is doomed to failure over and over again.Ragin Rebel wrote:![]()
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Poor stupid Liberals. That Obama Kool-Aid must be some powerful stuff!! Obama didn't inherit nothing. It was bought and paid for for him. All of the woes that came about at the end of George Bush's term was brought about by the Senate and Congress, which were both controlled by a Democap majority. Remember the Congress holds the purse strings. The housing bubble crash......also the fault of the Democrap's in control. Most of the massive spending and debt.......again at the hands of the Democraps.
Since Obama took office we saw unemployment rise until they started cooking the books in their favor, and even by cheating, Obama stands at ground zero. Unemployment by their numbers is where it was on day 1. Gas prices have more than doubled, the cost of energy (power bills) has went up nearly 20%, food prices are up significantly.
Since Obama has took office we are $5.4 Trillion dollars deeper in debt, our credit rating has been dropped 2 times, the national debt has gone from $10 Trillion to $16 Trillion. 25,000,000 Americans are either un or under employed, foreclosure rates are up , more people are in poverty now than ever before. 17 million more Americans are on food stamps than there were on Obama's first day. And billions of dollars have been wasted paying back Obama donors for green energy. Foreign policy is in shambles, most of the middle east is on fire, Obama Unconstitutionally sent troops into Libya. Obama claims he saved the auto industry......, far from it. GM is nearly in bankruptcy again and it's share holders were screwed in favor of Unions. Obama claims credit for killing Bin Laden, but that's like me claiming I re-roofed my house when I had a contractor do the job. And it was policies of the Bush Administration that led to Bin Laden's death, not Obama's. And Obama claims Al Queada is on the run, Al Queada, claims that they are now millions of Bin Laden's. Since Obama has been in office we have had more terrorist attacks on American soil than under Bush after his 9/11. Now Obama has his own 9/11 where he watched in real time as Americans were attacked and killed, and done nothing. Well except for claim it was a spontaneous attack because of a Youtube video.
He has failed as he did in the Fort Hood incident to call it terrorism.
Obama has also divided the US, racially and by class, and we have Obama supporters making death threats against Romney and threatening massive riots if Obama is not re-elected.
This nation has fallen the furthest than in any time in our history, our economy is screwed, there are no morals, we are deep in debt, Obama wants to Socialize us and make us a Nanny State. He is an inexperienced Community organizer who couldn't successfully run a lemonade stand. He is a failure and it's time to send him packing for Chicago or Kenya. Obama has not accomplished anything positive for America, unless you figure that becoming a Socialist State under the control of massive Government and loss of freedom.
I have no idea where you Liberals minds are, but I know your heads are up your ass and you're suffering the effects of methane poisoning.
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Talk to your lunch, vote for the chair.nobody wrote:I cannot vote for Obama. We must try something new. Obama might mean well but we cannot take another 4 year chance. We must have more jobs so pay can go up. Many are not working. More are working more and earning less.
I think Obama is hiding something. The Libya thing smells.
I am going to carry a folding chair and lunch to vote.
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Yeah, I've been studying on the repetitive uses of certain words and just the overall style and the tendency to plaster stupid sayings in large font....if it isn't the singed around the edges paid by the taxpayers hose hauler himself, I say it's somebody in the immediate family. And to address your question, no way in hell.Vrede wrote:Interesting, could be. The repeated lies and being too cowardly to admit and correct them sure fit. If so, think he'd ever have the spine to admit it?neoplacebo wrote:I just have to say that the above is the most insane bunch of bullshit ever conceived by mankind. I would further like to say that I believe this ragin redneck is none other than the taxpayer funded brain damaged half baked fireman formerly known as nutcar88. But I could be wrong, but in this particular case it woudn't matter anyway, as ragin redneck is doomed to failure over and over again.
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Ask him about how they faked the moon landing.Vrede wrote:Interesting, could be. The repeated lies and being too cowardly to admit and correct them sure fit. If so, think he'd ever have the spine to admit it?neoplacebo wrote:I just have to say that the above is the most insane bunch of bullshit ever conceived by mankind. I would further like to say that I believe this ragin redneck is none other than the taxpayer funded brain damaged half baked fireman formerly known as nutcar88. But I could be wrong, but in this particular case it woudn't matter anyway, as ragin redneck is doomed to failure over and over again.
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I guess that means cream is tertiary, don't it?Tertius wrote:OK cream is the third ingredient.Vrede wrote:Tertius wrote:No, he is more like fat free half and half. Half milk; half cream and nothing good.
It's not "half cream", that's why it's "fat free".Quoting the ingredient list: "Ingredients: Nonfat milk, milk*, corn syrup solids, artificial color**, sugar, dipotassium phosphate, sodium citrate, mono and diglycerides*, carageenan, natural and artifical flavors, vitamin A palmitate.
*Adds a trivial amount of fat
**An ingredient not normally found in half and half."
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There is no proof that anything was covered up, just that this was a fairly confusing situation that
has taken time to completely suss out. Of course that never stops the armchair generals from knowing
exactly what should have been done.
It's a simple rough comparison. If Obama is ultimately responsible for the deaths of four Americans, then
Bush is ultimately responsible fro the death of 3,000 Americans, and whenever the numbers are added
up 3,000 is way more than four.
Yes, Obama has been president for almost four years. Do you think the attack on the embassy was planned
four years ago?
Hey, it will be just like 1980 all over again. Reagan won two terms, than his VP won two terms, then....oh
never mind.
has taken time to completely suss out. Of course that never stops the armchair generals from knowing
exactly what should have been done.
It's a simple rough comparison. If Obama is ultimately responsible for the deaths of four Americans, then
Bush is ultimately responsible fro the death of 3,000 Americans, and whenever the numbers are added
up 3,000 is way more than four.
Yes, Obama has been president for almost four years. Do you think the attack on the embassy was planned
four years ago?
Hey, it will be just like 1980 all over again. Reagan won two terms, than his VP won two terms, then....oh
never mind.
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Yes, Ragin Rebel is a moon-landing denier.Vrede wrote:Was Ragin Redneck on goupstate and did he post about the moon landing being faked? If so, that would tend away from nutcar88, but would not exclude him entirely.AntiAlias wrote:Ask him about how they faked the moon landing.Vrede wrote:Interesting, could be. The repeated lies and being too cowardly to admit and correct them sure fit. If so, think he'd ever have the spine to admit it?neoplacebo wrote:I just have to say that the above is the most insane bunch of bullshit ever conceived by mankind. I would further like to say that I believe this ragin redneck is none other than the taxpayer funded brain damaged half baked fireman formerly known as nutcar88. But I could be wrong, but in this particular case it woudn't matter anyway, as ragin redneck is doomed to failure over and over again.
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Bungalow, Bush attacked Iraq. Remember and....
....an arm of al-Qaeda or some such terrorist organization attacked our embassy and killed Americans. The Command in Chief (CC) of the US Military had forces available to provide assistance to those under attack and either he or one of his appointees, SECDEF most likely, refused to give the engagement order. Instead of telling the story the CC is now telling when the situation occurred, he elected to allow his SOS and represenative to the UN to fabricate a lie about the cause of the attack and who the attackers were. No one, not even you, can deny this situation was an embarassment to not only the Obama Administration but to the US in general. Aren't we glad we did not have the likes of Obama around during the Cuban missile crisis.
The General in charge of the AOR (Area of Responsibility) where the attack occurred has been replaced by his deputy supposedly because he was going to send forces in although he was told not to. This chapter of the story is not over but indications are if this General speaks up the festering wound of Benghazi will get worse.
Bush acted on the intell he had. Obama did not act on the intell he had.
....an arm of al-Qaeda or some such terrorist organization attacked our embassy and killed Americans. The Command in Chief (CC) of the US Military had forces available to provide assistance to those under attack and either he or one of his appointees, SECDEF most likely, refused to give the engagement order. Instead of telling the story the CC is now telling when the situation occurred, he elected to allow his SOS and represenative to the UN to fabricate a lie about the cause of the attack and who the attackers were. No one, not even you, can deny this situation was an embarassment to not only the Obama Administration but to the US in general. Aren't we glad we did not have the likes of Obama around during the Cuban missile crisis.
The General in charge of the AOR (Area of Responsibility) where the attack occurred has been replaced by his deputy supposedly because he was going to send forces in although he was told not to. This chapter of the story is not over but indications are if this General speaks up the festering wound of Benghazi will get worse.
Bush acted on the intell he had. Obama did not act on the intell he had.
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"Bin Ladin Public Profile May Presage Attack" (5/3/01)Reality wrote:Bush acted on the intell he had.
"Bin Ladin's Networks' Plans Advancing" (5/26/01)
"Bin Ladin Attacks May Be Imminent" (6/23/01)
"Bin Ladin and Associates Making Near-Term Threats" (6/25/01)
"Bin Ladin Planning High-Profile Attacks" (6/30/01)
"Planning for Bin Ladin Attacks Continues, Despite Delays" (7/02/01)
- subject lines of Richard Clarke emails to Bush Administration prior to 9/11/01
"You know, Dick Clarke. Dick Clarke, who was the head of the counterterrorism program in the run-up to 9/11. He obviously missed it."
- Dick Cheney, on Richard Clarke
"Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
- Presidential Daily Brief, August 6, 2001
"All right, you've covered your ass now."
- George W. Bush, to the CIA briefer who warned him about an imminent bin Laden strike, August 6, 2001
Or to put it another way:
Clinton getting a BJ was declared to be of vital national importance by the Republicans. They did everything but demand that he get re-blown on the Senate floor. ("We must know exactly what happened!!!) Everything had to be done in public and under oath, and every word published.
Not so with 9/11, when they investigated what warnings the President received.
The White House wanted to limit any appearance by the president to just one hour spent with two of the commissioners. Bush II did eventually meet with the Commission, but only under stringent conditions: Bush had to have Dick Cheney at his side, testifying at the same time; testimony was given in private and NOT UNDER OATH; no press coverage was allowed; and no recordings or transcripts were made of what they said.
Do you believe, even for an instant, that there isn't some damning piece of evidence they wanted to be left unpublished?