Vrede too wrote:Given the lies and violations of international law, one could argue that the 1968 & 1972 (and maybe 1964) campaigns involved the unconstitutional issue of Vietnam. However, I can't recall as much campaigning for unconstitutional domestic policy, though I wasn't alive or old enough for most of the Red Scare.
I guess the red scare was the same sort of thing we are going through now, but amplified through modern media
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
In my personal memory and long-term interest in politics, I don't recall anybody strongly espousing things that were so clearly unconstitutional. There have been questionable positions, or positions that were arguable and maybe turned out later to be ruled unconstitutional, but never something as ridiculously blatant as registering members of a religion and surveilling their church. George Wallace was a segregationist, but even he wasn't as far off the rez as the current crop of Republicans.
billy.pilgrim wrote: . . . spews right wing lies and conspiracies at every family gathering but I'm not allowed to comment in the slightest way without the whole bunch of them turning against me for "trying to start something"
I show up, exchange greetings, eat, play with the little kids, (ignore the conversation about the devastating tax Obama has put on real estate sales and the insane regulations he has imposed on our banks) and go home.
That's exactly how I do it when we go back the LA sticks for TGiving.
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.
O Really wrote:You two make me even more thankful to have been an only child.
Actually, I don't have this issue with my blood kin, even the most conservative ones. This is only an issue with my rabid, rural, wingnut in-laws.
Can't you buy your wife something nice to buy her off and not have to go? Or take her to the islands for Christmas. Or maybe break your own leg. Gotta be something to get you out of going there.
I don't have a problem with my wife's family, or not so much. They leave politics out of family events.
But the piece of shit my sister married never stops.
Before he realized my position, he told stories about Lil bush's awol/cocaine time in mtnbrook
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
billy.pilgrim wrote:I don't have a problem with my wife's family, or not so much. They leave politics out of family events.
But the piece of shit my sister married never stops.
Before he realized my position, he told stories about Lil bush's awol/cocaine time in mtnbrook
I can deal with somebody giving me a bunch of crap for sport, but boatrocker apparently gets seriously suppressed and the whole bunch turns on him. Good reason to take holidays somewhere else.
billy.pilgrim wrote:I don't have a problem with my wife's family, or not so much. They leave politics out of family events.
But the piece of shit my sister married never stops.
Before he realized my position, he told stories about Lil bush's awol/cocaine time in mtnbrook
I can deal with somebody giving me a bunch of crap for sport, but boatrocker apparently gets seriously suppressed and the whole bunch turns on him. Good reason to take holidays somewhere else.
As I said earlier,
asshole bil spews right wing lies and conspiracies at every family gathering but I'm not allowed to comment in the slightest way without the whole bunch of them turning against me for "trying to start something"
I show up, exchange greetings, eat, play with the little kids, (ignore the conversation about the devastating tax Obama has put on real estate sales and the insane regulations he has imposed on our banks) and go home.
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
O Really wrote:You two make me even more thankful to have been an only child.
Actually, I don't have this issue with my blood kin, even the most conservative ones. This is only an issue with my rabid, rural, wingnut in-laws.
Can't you buy your wife something nice to buy her off and not have to go? Or take her to the islands for Christmas. Or maybe break your own leg. Gotta be something to get you out of going there.
I do a lot in the cause of marital peace. She doesn't get to see her family very often, so I go along to get along. Which usually means trying to steer the conversations to football or fishing or hunting or farming or some such rural shit as that. Come January, we'll have been married for 39 years; you learn to work the system in the name of harmony.
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.
Oh, I bet he looks forward to family gatherings.
I have a barner SIL and her husband, who like to play that Kick-6 video over and over thru Comcast, at TGiving gatherings at their house. At least you guys have YouTube going for you!
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.
Boatrocker wrote:Oh, I bet he looks forward to family gatherings.
I have a barner SIL and her husband, who like to play that Kick-6 video over and over thru Comcast, at TGiving gatherings at their house. At least you guys have YouTube going for you!
Yeah, always easy to record bammers acting badly
When was the last time the bammers got a holding call? My son says 2013
