According to The Oregonian, Ryan Bundy has stated that the group wants the Hammonds to be released and for the federal government to relinquish control of the Malheur National Forest.[24]
The Hammond thing is a recent event and worthy of wingnut protest, but Teddy was responsible for the forest like way long time ago
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
One thing I would do right now if I were the LEOs is send one elderly or female unarmed officer in a school bus, with forewarning, to arrest them. They might comply now that the Hammonds have turned themselves in and they've made their point, but they probably wouldn't. Then, they can be charged with resisting arrest and any attempt to leave would be flight to avoid prosecution.
However, my experience is that cops aren't particularly creative that way. Force is their default option.
The FBI could give Occupy Gift Shop the opposite treatment:
During Occupy Wall Street there were claims that police were finding every homeless addict and vagrant in the city and dropping them off at the protest camp. Which overtaxed the available food, led to sexual assaults and whatnot, and plenty of behavior unflattering to the movement for reporters to record. This is a big part of what caused the movement to burn out.
The FBI can put on a show of not only being respectful of the Vanilla ISIS cause "even if they don't fully agree", but of being we're-all-on-the-same-team-helpful. Rather than a blockade, the FBI could ASSIST every inbred and nutjob to come to the Cowliphate's defence. Some may bring food, but not likely more than a few days worth and not other needed supplies like toilet paper. They'll quickly become a burden.
Let that percolate for a couple weeks, then provide tours for reporters. The Whole World Is Watching, and far from trying to stop them, the FBI would make a show of assisting reporters.
Vrede too wrote:With the Hammonds in prison is the occupation moo-t?
They still have a beef with government interfering in their right to claim effective ownership of public lands.
Government interference and taxation is evil. (Other than in 2010 when Mr. Bundy borrowed $530,000 through a US Federal loan program, costing the US taxpayers up to $22,419.)
... tribal leader Charlotte Rodrique ... said she "had to laugh" at the demand, because she knew Bundy was not talking about giving the land to the tribe.
The 13,700-acre Burns Paiute Reservation is north of the remote town of Burns in Oregon sagebrush country. The reservation is separate from the wildlife refuge, but tribal members consider it part of their ancestral land.
As with other tribes, the Burns Paiutes' link to the land is marked by a history of conflict with white settlers and the U.S. government. In the late 1800s, they were forced off a sprawling reservation created by an 1872 treaty that was never ratified. Some later returned and purchased property in the Burns area, where about 200 tribal members now live....
billy.pilgrim wrote:bet they would desecrate their panties if a swat team rolled in
I'm all for it. MRAPS, heavy weapon, the whole ten yards. Fuck a peaceful resolution. If these ARMED shitheads are willing to die, then- as the reichwing fucktards themselves are so quick to opine about moozlums- then let's give them the opportunity.
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.
billy.pilgrim wrote:bet they would desecrate their panties if a swat team rolled in
I'm all for it. MRAPS, heavy weapon, the whole ten yards. Fuck a peaceful resolution. If these ARMED shitheads are willing to die, then- as the reichwing fucktards themselves are so quick to opine about moozlums- then let's give them the opportunity.
Go shoot them down. (confiscate their weapons first)
Spoken like a true peace-loving, right-to-life, anti-government, flaming equal rights, polished-language, flaming liberal.
I've yet to meet a Democrat-voting, liberal-leaning individual who knew any words containing more than four letters; plurals not included.
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive