Vrede wrote:Obama did not deny requests for help in Benghazi: Aide
As I posted earlier, I don't necessarily believe anything about war until the dust has long settled.What is clear is that Mitten, gongoozler, Reality, Tertius and some of the other cons here will unpatriotically swallow and promote anything in their desperation to exploit the brave dead for craven partisan ends. Shame.Obama rebuts claims he’s lying about attack on US Consulate in Libya
..."...We don't play politics when it comes to American national security,"
That's BS, every POTUS does. The as yet unanswered question is whether and how he did this time. POTUS candidates do it, too:
...The former Massachusetts governor, in his first statement, implied the administration had sided with the attackers...
"He certainly understood that when our diplomats are still under fire—not just in Benghazi but around the world, in Cairo, in Pakistan, etc.—that if you aspire to be commander in chief you don't release a political press release.," Obama said. "You don't have a political press conference that tries to take advantage of that opportunity that is so reckless that even members of your own party criticize you for it."
...Asked whether Romney had toned down his sharp criticisms on Libya because of what he learned in intelligence briefings, Obama said he doubted his rival was "constrained" by facts. "I just don't think that that was getting a lot of political traction for them," he said...
Obama Scrambles For Cover As Benghazi Lie Explodes
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Why does this person post inside someone else's post? That does not seem right. Is it alright to do that? It was confusing until I realized that they were doing.Stinger wrote:Tertius wrote:It has been proven that the State Department has the authority to deploy Marines to protect embassies and consulates.
Irrelevant BS. Marine Embassy Guards were never in the picture in Libya.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens.
Irrelevant BS. Marine Embassy Guards were never in the picture in Libya.
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans.
And finished their tour of duty and rotated out.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in.
And?
It has been testified to in Congress that a mid-level State Department employee, Charlene Lamb, denied the security requests, adhering to current SD policies. It has also been testified to that having an extra half-dozen agents in Benghazi would not have stopped that attack.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again.
And?
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times.
No, it hasn't. Sounds like just more BS you made up.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.
Planed? The militia has an air force? Why didn't they use it?
There's planning, and then there's planning. You know an area in a city, you say, "Joe, you and Bob cover the corner at First and Main. Bill, you and Jim cover the corner at Second and Second."
The planning could have taken as little as an hour. There is NO evidence of any long-term planning.
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.
Lie.
It has been proven that dimwitted wingnuts keep thinking "militia" and "anger over video" are magically mutually exclusive. They're not.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.
And?
Only Susan Rice called it spontaneous.
There's spontaneous and there's spontaneous. One "spontaneous" is "Let's attack the U.S. embassy." "Okay, we'er out of here." Another spontaneous is "Okay, let's make a plan." An hour later, you're on your way.
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.
And?
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
And?
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.
Lie.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.
The first part's a lie.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.
Lie. Hours after the attack began, a already-airborn drone was ordered to observe the embassy. A replacement drone (fuel?) was later sent up.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.
And?
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.
And?
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.
Lie. It has been stated by the military that you don't send forces into harm's way without accurate intel.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.
It's also proven that the attack stopped for four hours and that people thought the attack had ended.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
They didn't have direct communications with the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.
But not by whom.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.
And?
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.
Lie
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.
And? There are no signs that you or I are heterosexual. Does that make both of us gay?
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.
Lie. Some sects kill, but there is no record of habitual mutilation.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
Lie.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so.
Just because you claim something has been proved does not make it so. The fact that you say it is true does not make it so. The fact that you really, really, really, really, really want it to be true does not make it so.
What would make it true would be corroborating evidence from a credible source. You have brought nothing but baseless speculation and irrelevant drivel that proves nothing.
Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion.
You're projecting your shortcomings onto others. You have brought nothing to the discussion but lunatical supposition and conjecture.
And the funniest part is that even if all the wingnuttery above were true, it still wouldn't support your far-right delusions about some conspiracy to sacrifice Chris Stevens.
And you don't get that.
You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
And yet you can't keep up with me.
If you were a lot smarter, you'd be smart enough to know that.
And the funniest part is that even if all the wingnuttery above were true, it still wouldn't support your far-right delusions about some conspiracy to sacrifice Chris Stevens.
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that is a lot of useless trouble to do all that red posting. What Terius said seems true. It should have never happened. I can not believe Mrs. Clinton let that happen. Obama must have made her. Obama seemed like such a nice young man. You cannot judge a book by its cover.Tertius wrote:It has been proven that the State Department has the authority to deploy Marines to protect embassies and consulates.i know some one that did this while he was in the Marines. He said they were at almost every embassy especially if it was dangerous.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens. I have not seen where they had Marines there. To bad they were not there anybody know why?
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans. True I saw that Col. wood talk his eyes were red like he wanted to cry.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in. That means his men left and no protection was there. I think.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again. They have emails to show that.
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times. That is true they had a picture on TV. That should have told them to be careful. They should have been told to come home if the Marines were not going to be there.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.they had to plan that everybody had guns and no signs
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.they kept saying it was a movie. That was wrong.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.they had to plan they had guns, big guns, gasoline a flag
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.proven to be so on TV
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.They were ordered not to help those poor people the military would not do that someone very important has to sat that.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.They are heroes and people are not honoring them with the truth.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.That is true.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.That is true.
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.That is true.
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.That is true.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.That is true.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.That is true.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.That is true.
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.That is true.
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.i think those Obama Chicago people told those lies about this poor dead man.
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.That is true. Those Muslims kill anybody they do not like.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so. Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion. You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
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nobody wrote: that is a lot of useless trouble to do all that red posting.
Depends on how important honesty and the truth are to you.
What Terius said seems true. It should have never happened. I can not believe Mrs. Clinton let that happen. Obama must have made her. Obama seemed like such a nice young man. You cannot judge a book by its cover.
Looks like a pretender here. Tertius in disguise?
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I do not have time to pretend to be another screen name.Stinger wrote:nobody wrote: that is a lot of useless trouble to do all that red posting.
Depends on how important honesty and the truth are to you.
What Terius said seems true. It should have never happened. I can not believe Mrs. Clinton let that happen. Obama must have made her. Obama seemed like such a nice young man. You cannot judge a book by its cover.
Looks like a pretender here. Tertius in disguise?
Sounds like "nobody" is trying to his or her sea legs. You people should cut the crap. If you haven't noticed most of you are just patting yourselves on the back.
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No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
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There is only one person that can tell the President's Press secretary to lie.gongoozler wrote:No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
It is funny. All the liberals keep insisting the truth is a lie. It gives them the comfort of thinking they have won the argument here. Just keep thinking that. Stay with that Saul Alinsky plan.
Everyday more comes out and none of it supports Obama. Voters know what was said. Voters know how they understood what was said. Voters know what they understood to be true from the administration is not true. That will never translate into more votes for the President.
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The folks are beginning to pay attention. They are recognizing the MSM is not asking the right questions. I realize Axelrod and his den of bandits are trying to run out the clock, but it will not succeed.Tertius wrote:There is only one person that can tell the President's Press secretary to lie.gongoozler wrote:No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
It is funny. All the liberals keep insisting the truth is a lie. It gives them the comfort of thinking they have won the argument here. Just keep thinking that. Stay with that Saul Alinsky plan.
Everyday more comes out and none of it supports Obama. Voters know what was said. Voters know how they understood what was said. Voters know what they understood to be true from the administration is not true. That will never translate into more votes for the President.
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It's starting to boil over.Supsalemgr wrote:The folks are beginning to pay attention. They are recognizing the MSM is not asking the right questions. I realize Axelrod and his den of bandits are trying to run out the clock, but it will not succeed.Tertius wrote:There is only one person that can tell the President's Press secretary to lie.gongoozler wrote:No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
It is funny. All the liberals keep insisting the truth is a lie. It gives them the comfort of thinking they have won the argument here. Just keep thinking that. Stay with that Saul Alinsky plan.
Everyday more comes out and none of it supports Obama. Voters know what was said. Voters know how they understood what was said. Voters know what they understood to be true from the administration is not true. That will never translate into more votes for the President.
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Who said the YouTube video isn't to blame?gongoozler wrote:No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
The Libyan militia said it was.
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What's funny is you claiming delusions "have been proved" when you've posted no evidence to support them.Tertius wrote:There is only one person that can tell the President's Press secretary to lie.gongoozler wrote:No one is asking Obama the obvious question. Who told those in your administration to go on talk shows and blame the YouTube video?
It is funny. All the liberals keep insisting the truth is a lie. It gives them the comfort of thinking they have won the argument here. Just keep thinking that. Stay with that Saul Alinsky plan.
Everyday more comes out and none of it supports Obama. Voters know what was said. Voters know how they understood what was said. Voters know what they understood to be true from the administration is not true. That will never translate into more votes for the President.
Dishonest and very childish. That's why you can't hang with the adults.
What lie has the president's press secretary told.
BE SURE TO POST YOUR PROOF THAT WHATEVER HE SAID WAS A LIE. THE ADULTS ON THIS FORUM WILL NOT ACCEPT YOUR KNEE-JERK CONJECTURE AND SUPPOSITION.
More evidence supports Obama than supports your idiotic theory of gay-murded conspiracy.
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nobody wrote:that is a lot of useless trouble to do all that red posting.Tertius wrote:It has been proven that the State Department has the authority to deploy Marines to protect embassies and consulates.i know some one that did this while he was in the Marines. He said they were at almost every embassy especially if it was dangerous.
So do I. I have a good friend who was a Marine Embassy Guard in Moscow, back during the cold war. No one has denied that there is such a thing as Marine Embassy Guard.
What keeps getting shot down is Turdwhistle's chronic mentioning of Marines being at the embassy in Libya when Marines weren't there, didn't get sent away, and weren't coming back to where they hadn't been in the first place.
It has been proven none were deployed to protect Ambassador Stevens. I have not seen where they had Marines there. To bad they were not there anybody know why?
State Department didn't request them. The fact that they weren't there is meaningless.
It has been proven that in August a Special Forces was in Libya to protect Americans. True I saw that Col. wood talk his eyes were red like he wanted to cry.
A Special Forces? No, there was a 16-man Site Security Team (SST), not Special Forces. You're having the same delusion Turdwhistle has. He keeps claiming the Marines AND Special Forces were in the picture. Neither were.
It has been proven that when they were rotated out, none were rotated in. That means his men left and no protection was there. I think.
There was still protection there. Support was sent from the Tripoli embassy to Benghazi. You can't do that if there's no support.
It has been proven that Ambassador Stevens himself requested more protection time and time again. They have emails to show that.
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that our embassy and consulate in Libya had been attacked several times. That is true they had a picture on TV. That should have told them to be careful. They should have been told to come home if the Marines were not going to be there.
List the dates that our embassy was attacked.
It has been proven that the attack was planed.they had to plan that everybody had guns and no signs
And? It may have been planned in 30 minutes or an hour. Your point?
It has been proven that the Obama administrations lied repeatedly about the cause of the attack.they kept saying it was a movie. That was wrong.
Actually, the Libyan militia told onlookers that they were attacking because of the video. Every credible report since then has suggested that the militia attacked because of the film just like thousands of Muslims did around the world on the same day..
The dimwits have this either/or construction. They are not mutually exclusive. A militia can become angry because of a film and plan and carry out an attack.
Try proving that they didn't attack because of the film. Then you can call Obama's administration liars.
It has been proven that the attack was not spontaneous.they had to plan they had guns, big guns, gasoline a flag
All stuff they had readily available. Your point?
It has been proven that indirect fire was use in the attack.proven to be so on TV
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that fire adjustments were made form inside the consulate walls.
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that the two men that died in the attack were ordered to stand down and not help people at the consulate.They were ordered not to help those poor people the military would not do that someone very important has to sat that.
It hasn't been proven at all. In fact, it has been denied.
Post your proof.
It has been proven that these two men risk their careers and eventually lost their lives saving other Americans.They are heroes and people are not honoring them with the truth.
People like you clowns are making it up as you go, using slain heroes as political footballs.
It has been proven that one drone was over the consulate when the attack started.That is true.
No, it isn't. The first drone was ordered over Benghazi after the attack started.
It has been proven that the attack expanded form the consulate to another secured area.That is true.
Didn't exactly "expand." Nearby forces came to the embassy, rescued who and what they could, and went back to their compounds. Later, that attack moved to the compound.
It has been proven that the attack lasted so long that a second drone had to replace the first.That is true.
It's also been proven that there was a four-hour break between attacks. Your point?
It has been proven that is that occurred then help could have been given to those under attack.That is true.
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that for hours these men under attack ask for help for help.That is true.
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that nothing was wrong with communications between those under attack and the White House.
It has been proven that those request for help were denied.That is true.
Lie. There is no proof of communications between those under attack and the White House.
Post your proof.
It has been proven that Stevens was instructed by Obama to deliver weapons to Libya.That is true.
And? No one's denied that. It proves nothing.
It has been proven that Stevens did not approve of whose hands these weapons were going to.That is true.
No, it hasn't. Post your proof.
It has been proven that there was no signs that Stevens was heterosexual.i think those Obama Chicago people told those lies about this poor dead man.
There are no signs that either of you are heterosexual. Or intelligent
It has been proven that the Muslims kill and often mutilate the bodies of homosexuals.That is true. Those Muslims kill anybody they do not like.
Lie. Post your proof that Muslims mutilate homosexuals.
It has been proven that the administration wall to wall from the beginning to now and ongoing are lying about these murders.
No, it hasn't. Mainly, we've just been buried under an avalanche of knee-jerk conjecture. Post your proof about these "lies."
Post your proof.
When you repeatedly say there is no proof; that does not make it so.
When you repeatedly say something has been proven, that's a pretty good indicator that it hasn't. How could something be "proven" when you have provided not proof.
Everyone knows you bring nothing to a discussion.
I bring information supported by links to credible news sources. You bring nothing but conjecture and lies about having proven things that were never proved.
You are nothing more than an empty pair of shoes.
You are nothing but a FOS wingnut.
Depends on how cavalier you are with the truth.
If you value the truth and hate lies and disinformation, it's not that much trouble.
What Terius said seems true.
Yeah, if you're uninformed and gullible.
It should have never happened.
Duh.
I can not believe Mrs. Clinton let that happen.
Post your proof that she did.
Obama must have made her.
With that Kenyan mind contorl thin
Obama seemed like such a nice young man. You cannot judge a book by its cover.
No, but you can judge clowns by their illogic and the nonsense they post. Welcome to the circus, Bozo.