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billy.pilgrim wrote:In an interview with Fox News host Chris Wallace, Carson suggested that there might not be an election in 2016, because of widespread anarchy. He repeated this claim to radio host Alan Colmes.

I hate widespread anarchy
Sometimes, localized anarchy is cool.
Running with scissors! Take THAT, society!
It beats the opposite.
O Really wrote:Real article on the single most important factor determining Trump supporters...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ian-213533
... I’ve found a single statistically significant variable predicts whether a voter supports Trump—and it’s not race, income or education levels: It’s authoritarianism.

... 49 percent of likely Republican primary voters I surveyed score in the top quarter of the authoritarian scale—more than twice as many as Democratic voters.

Political pollsters have missed this key component of Trump’s support because they simply don’t include questions about authoritarianism in their polls. In addition to the typical battery of demographic, horse race, thermometer-scale and policy questions, my poll asked a set of four simple survey questions that political scientists have employed since 1992 to measure inclination toward authoritarianism. These questions pertain to child-rearing: whether it is more important for the voter to have a child who is respectful or independent; obedient or self-reliant; well-behaved or considerate; and well-mannered or curious. Respondents who pick the first option in each of these questions are strongly authoritarian.

Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate—Republican or Democrat—whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant.

... Conditions are ripe for an authoritarian leader to emerge. Trump is seizing the opportunity. And the institutions—from the Republican Party to the press—that are supposed to guard against what James Madison called “the infection of violent passions” among the people have either been cowed by Trump’s bluster or are asleep on the job.

It is time for those who would appeal to our better angels to take his insurgency seriously and stop dismissing his supporters as a small band of the dispossessed. Trump support is firmly rooted in American authoritarianism and, once awakened, it is a force to be reckoned with....
My picks: independent, self-reliant, considerate and curious. This is why I'm neither GOP nor a Trump fan.
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O Really wrote:Real article on the single most important factor determining Trump supporters...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ian-213533
Perhaps, if you're a moron authoritarian. No rational person with an adult intellect is gonna be a Dump supporter.
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I don’t believe I’ve evet typed omg before,
omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg,
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it always looks so silly, but, omg, omg, omg,
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all the cable networks are running an entire,
omg, trumpet speech, omg, omg, omg, omg,
omg, and from that crazy liberty – the home
scul away from home – jesus rode a dinosaur
crazy bullshit school, and I watched it for 20
minutes, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg, omg,
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they have been telling me to love it or leave
it for 48 years, I may have to leave.
– Heil Trump for Ayatollah

sorry about all the omgs, but tv off and I can't
stop saying omg
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oh, and everybody is going to have to say merry christmas
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

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O Really wrote:Real article on the single most important factor determining Trump supporters...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ian-213533
Perhaps, if you're a moron authoritarian. No rational person with an adult intellect is gonna be a Dump supporter.
The author's claim is that moron has nothing to do with it, just tendency towards authoritarianism. He probably had no way to sort for IQ, but he did factor in education levels.

That said, I suppose one could make the case that if a person allows his/her tendency towards authoritarianism to outweigh his/her intellect, s/he is a moron.
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:Real article on the single most important factor determining Trump supporters...
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... ian-213533
Perhaps, if you're a moron authoritarian. No rational person with an adult intellect is gonna be a Dump supporter.
The author's claim is that moron has nothing to do with it, just tendency towards authoritarianism. He probably had no way to sort for IQ, but he did factor in education levels.

That said, I suppose one could make the case that if a person allows his/her tendency towards authoritarianism to outweigh his/her intellect, s/he is a moron.
Certainly if he/she supports Donnie the Dump. And I disagree firmly with his "finding" that liberals like him too. Calling bullshit on that one.
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"liberals" does not appear in the article, and I doubt that there are very many authoritarian liberals. Authoritarian Dems, otoh . . .
... That’s right, Trump’s electoral strength—and his staying power—have been buoyed, above all, by Americans with authoritarian inclinations. And because of the prevalence of authoritarians in the American electorate, among Democrats as well as Republicans, it’s very possible that Trump’s fan base will continue to grow....

Not all authoritarians are Republicans by any means; in national surveys since 1992, many authoritarians have also self-identified as independents and Democrats. And in the 2008 Democratic primary, the political scientist Marc Hetherington found that authoritarianism mattered more than income, ideology, gender, age and education in predicting whether voters preferred Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama. But Hetherington has also found, based on 14 years of polling, that authoritarians have steadily moved from the Democratic to the Republican Party over time. He hypothesizes that the trend began decades ago, as Democrats embraced civil rights, gay rights, employment protections and other political positions valuing freedom and equality. In my poll results, authoritarianism was not a statistically significant factor in the Democratic primary race, at least not so far, but it does appear to be playing an important role on the Republican side. Indeed, 49 percent of likely Republican primary voters I surveyed score in the top quarter of the authoritarian scale—more than twice as many as Democratic voters....

Based on these questions, Trump was the only candidate—Republican or Democrat—whose support among authoritarians was statistically significant....

And in a general election, Trump’s strongman rhetoric will surely appeal to some of the 39 percent of independents in my poll who identify as authoritarians and the 17 percent of self-identified Democrats who are strong authoritarians....

Take activated authoritarians from across the partisan spectrum and the growing cadre of (terrorism) threatened non-authoritarians, then add them to the base of Republican general election voters, and the potential electoral path to a Trump presidency becomes clearer....
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Vrede too wrote:He has a dream: Liberty University defends choice of Trump as MLK Day speaker

:wtf: Even libertarian Liberty students think it's a bad idea.
Their attendance at these things is usually mandatory, isn't it?
I don't know. I wonder if the tattered shreds of our remaining campaign law preclude that.
At Liberty University, Donald Trump again stumbles when discussing religion

... Most in the audience were students required by school policy to attend a weekly convocation meeting....
Wow, that sucks.
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Vrede too wrote:
Vrede too wrote:
Boatrocker wrote:
Vrede too wrote:He has a dream: Liberty University defends choice of Trump as MLK Day speaker

:wtf: Even libertarian Liberty students think it's a bad idea.
Their attendance at these things is usually mandatory, isn't it?
I don't know. I wonder if the tattered shreds of our remaining campaign law preclude that.
At Liberty University, Donald Trump again stumbles when discussing religion

... Most in the audience were students required by school policy to attend a weekly convocation meeting....
Wow, that sucks.
Agreed, but I waste no pity on students who are paying thru the nose (or whose fundicongelical parents are paying thru the nose) to attend a fake school, and a sharia school, at that.
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Liberty "University" is a required campaign stop for Republicans every election cycle.

As others have said, "If Liberty University is a real university, then Pastafarianism is a real religion."

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"Look what it says in Two Corinthians" . . . Even I'm not that dense.

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rstrong wrote:Liberty "University" is a required campaign stop for Republicans every election cycle.

As others have said, "If Liberty University is a real university, then Pastafarianism is a real religion."
If you grew up going to an evangelical church, as I did, chances are you attended youth groups at which a leader asked everyone to name their favorite Bible verse.
My favorite bible verse is Ezekiel 23:20
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

homerfobe's, too, but not for the same reason.
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Quick poll popped up on local TV - does Palin's endorsement make you more likely, less likely, or no effect on your potential Trump vote.
60% "less likely." Bah-da-boom.

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Track Palin Charged With Assault, Weapon Possession While Intoxicated

So, Sarah endorses Trump and he says he's honored by it the day AFTER Track gets busted for armed, drunken domestic violence - not a brain among the 3 of them.
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Vrede too wrote:Track Palin Charged With Assault, Weapon Possession While Intoxicated

So, Sarah endorses Trump and he says he's honored by it the day AFTER Track gets busted for armed, drunken domestic violence - not a brain among the 3 of them.
Time to send him to camp for the rest of the campaign. In Oregon. He'll fit right in with the other kids.

Come to think of it, considering the large number of starting candidates: I wonder how many stoner / radical gay / stupid / other kids of the candidates first learned that their parent was running, when they got a tranquilizer dart to the back of the neck and woke up imprisoned in some "spa" or on some remote island.

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Watch: What On Earth Is Sarah Palin Saying In This Part Of Her Speech Supporting Donald Trump?

... Vine poster DopeItStorm wrote: “Sarah Palin summed up Donald Trump supporters better than any of us have been able to do so far, I’ll give her that.” ...
:lol: :clap:

I would have guessed a BAC of 0.25 at work.
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Admittedly, Palin could hardly be paired with Ted Cruz.

She's the redneck desperately trying to sound intelligent, while he's the intelligent, educated man desperately trying to dumb down for a rednecks. Palin is the anti-Cruz. If they met, they'd disappear in a flash of gamma radiation.

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rstrong wrote:Admittedly, Palin could hardly be paired with Ted Cruz.

She's the redneck desperately trying to sound intelligent, while he's the intelligent, educated man desperately trying to dumb down for a rednecks. Palin is the anti-Cruz. If they met, they'd disappear in a flash of gamma radiation.
You make that sound like a bad thing.
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