Agreed, BLM has had a few major stumbles. However, I doubt that the black community is worse off for it. Overall, one would have to count BLM as a benefit.
rstrong wrote:That's one opinion. The other is that PETA radicalism has painted the entire movement as a bunch of wingnuts....
I get the theory, but one would have to make the case that you or others are less sympathetic to animals, that the other groups you listed have suffered and/or that animal rights and welfare are less well off since PETA arrived. I just don't see it.
As maybe the only actual PETA member here, I'll toss in my two cents.
There are a lot of good animal protection groups, including for example the ASPCA, HSUS, etc. But for many years, they went fairly quietly about their business rarely controversial. There were probably some who thought ASPCA opposition to horse and dog racing and puppy mills might make them a bunch of wingnuts, that was not the general perception. PETA does outrageous things and takes positions some may consider extreme. As such, they draw attention to issues that others have not been able to do. And over time (not that much time), positions considered ridiculous at one time become more acceptable. For example, wearing real fur as fashion has become totally passe in the US, pushed out to the Siberia of social acceptability much the same as has happened to smoking. Bottom line to me is that anymore one has to be outrageous in order to attract any attention, whether it's about animal protection, police protection, or running for President.
A close friend was the foreperson at a rural Western trial for PETA beaver farm rescuers - Acquittal!
A roommate stiffed me on rent when she moved out. Soon after, a hand me down fur coat arrived in the mail from a relative of hers. I waited in vain 6 months for the rent then gave the coat to PETA to use however they wanted.
rstrong wrote:That's one opinion. The other is that PETA radicalism has painted the entire movement as a bunch of wingnuts . . . .
I'm afraid I do have to go with that one, and it's a shame. But in truth, any such notion as not eating meat is gonna be portrayed as kooky and demented by the real wingnuts- you know, the ones who believe they have utter dominion over the birds of the sky and the beasts of the field.
People are crazy and times are strange. I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range.
I used to care, but, things have changed.
Boatrocker wrote:I'm afraid I do have to go with that one, and it's a shame. But in truth, any such notion as not eating meat is gonna be portrayed as kooky and demented by the real wingnuts- you know, the ones who believe they have utter dominion over the birds of the sky and the beasts of the field.
The natural enemy of the extremist isn't the opposite extremist. It's the moderate.
Boatrocker wrote:I'm afraid I do have to go with that one, and it's a shame. But in truth, any such notion as not eating meat is gonna be portrayed as kooky and demented by the real wingnuts- you know, the ones who believe they have utter dominion over the birds of the sky and the beasts of the field.
The natural enemy of the extremist isn't the opposite extremist. It's the moderate.
But the extremists strategy is to paint the moderates with the sins of the extremists.
It worked well for runnie reagan and limbo, calling all environmentalists tree huggers. Demonizing words by association with extreme views has long been the attic of the right.
Remember that liberals even got scared of using the word liberal
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sorry seth, but I rarely open your links. That is why I asked if it was the fake one used by the filmmaker and the one that pathological liar figorina keeps lying about
That's OK....I suspected as such. Judging by your reply, I sense at least you're sincere, not snarky. Thanks.
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive
This week, Austin State Hospital, a psychiatric facility in Texas, pulled down the “no guns” signs that had long been posted throughout the building. That’s because, thanks to new legislation, guns are now permitted in all 10 of the state-run psychiatric hospitals in Texas....
Texas is already one of the most gun-friendly states in the nation — the New York Times called the state “so gun-friendly that it is easier to get into the Capitol in Austin with a firearm than without one.” ...
I can't help but feel that new law is going to backfire; with horrible consequences. Of course there's always the notion that Texas is looking to thin their population.
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive
Seth Milner wrote:I can't help but feel that new law is going to backfire; with horrible consequences. Of course there's always the notion that Texas is looking to thin their population.
Even before the new law, there are examples of how it will backfire. Most of the Waco bikers weren't particularly "bad guys," just guys who liked motorcycles and guns. Somebody gets their feelings hurt, says something about somebody's mother, and the next you know everybody's shooting and getting shot.
If I really wanted to troll the American public, I'd announce a plan to put handguns in public places for "good guys" to use in an emergency. You know, just like fire alarm pull stations. "In case of emergency, break glass."
They'd be placed wherever violence is most likely to happen. In or just outside bars, sporting venues, high crime areas, etc.
It would be entirely in keeping with NRA views on the greater availability of guns meaning greater security for all. Any public official who disagrees will be asked to explain why.
Just wondering - were these "good guys" or "bad guys?" I'm guessing the shop owners must have been the bad guys because we all know "all it takes to deal with a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
The young girl had it coming. After all, she was on a gun range.
Well, let me rephrase that: she was inside her own home in a quiet neighborhood.
But thanks to Rick Scott and the NRA-controlled legislature, the whole state is now an open gun range....
Well, go f--- yourself, little girl. That is what you get for living in Florida. The shooter, Harold Lanham, has a lawyer that put it best:
"This was a tragic result, this young lady (getting) hurt,” said Mike Chionopolous, Lanham’s attorney. “But he wasn’t doing anything illegal.”
His lawyer made clear that his client was acting within Florida law. He’s right.
Thanks to Rick Scott and a teabag legislature that literally takes orders from the Florida NRA, there are no restrictions whatsoever on building makeshift gun ranges: any type of weapon or ammo that can be used, any time of day or night, without any regard to proximity of houses, schools, daycare centers, and playgrounds!
And just for good measure, Marion Hammer ensured that Florida's state legislature enacted a "pre-emption law" that levies a $5,000 fine on any local official who tries to limit home-made gun ranges....
