Why is Obama still lying about this?

[Stinger]

Time and forces were available to react and Obama's Administration stuck their head in the sand and let the defenders die without making an effort to save them.


You conveniently forgot about the four-hour break in the attacks when many thought the attacks had ended.

Or maybe you just didn't know. Willful ignorance is one of your strongpoints.

As for you Stinker, tell us your interpretation of the chain of command. Do the War Fighting CINCS reprot to SECDEF or to Obama? What are the actual duties of the Commander in Chief, MAJCOM Commanders, and The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

What's your interpretation. You think some diplomat or soldier on the ground has a hotline to the White House?

The chain of command issue had to do with Ambassador Stevens' requests for more security.

I know there are multiple issues here, but do try to keep up and not fuBigUglyck everything up.

Glad to read that you now understand and acknowledge that Obama was fully aware that our embassy was under attack and elected to do nothing.

I was always aware that Obama knew what was occurring. I never said he didn't know there was an attack. That's just your illiteracy and lack of intellect coming to the forefront.

That's why Obama told his staff to do whatever was necessary to protect the U.S. diplomats and forces in Libya.

I guess you're dumb enough the president should tell the military how to do their jobs.

Maybe when he finally admits that it was he that gave the order to stand down and gives a truthful explanation as to why he did so, he and the rest of us can learn from what happened and establish procedures to not let it happen again.

Hold your breath, dumbass. Maybe when you quit running and admit all the mistakes you make, hell will freeze over. You're the last person in the world who should tell someone else to man up to the truth.

And maybe when you admit that you don't have one shred of proof that Obama gave any order to stand down, you'll gain a tiny bit of credibility, you ignorant, lying coward.

If we learn what happened and establish new procedures, foreign entities won't attack our embassies and kill any more Americans? Reality -- queen of the dumbasses.

[Brother]

Brother said; "And W knew that planes were being flown into various structures on 9/11. Why didn't he stop it after the first plane? That makes about as much as sense as what you people are saying."

Hey Bro, I guess you expected W to give the order to shoot down every commerical aircraft that was airborne over the US after the first one hit the Tower.

Obama, had time to react and assist those under attack or trying to defend US territory. I don't know the actual time it took for all commercial aircraft to land when the 9/11 attack was underway thereby eliminating that threat. Do you? According to the infromation now made piblic the Americans engaged at Benghazi were still fighting and asking for assistance hours after the initial attack. Time and forces were available to react and Obama's Administration stuck their head in the sand and let the defenders die without making an effort to save them.

As for you Stinker, tell us your interpretation of the chain of command. Do the War Fighting CINCS reprot to SECDEF or to Obama? What are the actual duties of the Commander in Chief, MAJCOM Commanders, and The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

Glad to read that you now understand and acknowledge that Obama was fully aware that our embassy was under attack and elected to do nothing. Maybe when he finally admits that it was he that gave the order to stand down and gives a truthful explanation as to why he did so, he and the rest of us can learn from what happened and establish procedures to not let it happen again.

Apparently, you did not comprehend my post...

[neoplacebo]

Nice try O'Really but the buck does stop at the White House on this one. Are you and the others so naive or so protetcive of Obama that you are convinced he did not know that one of our embassies was under attack and that Americans had been killed and yes the CEO of a major corporation does get fired if the corportaion he leads takes a major hit. Some go to jail.

Wonder why Hillary has been so quiet lately?

Hell, no, not me. I'm not naive at all; that only happened to me once. For one thing, our facility in Benghazi was a consulate, not an embassy. There is a big difference in every way. For another thing, I want to know why Obama is lying and covering up for those two US military guys who were arrested for rape (I even think it was legitimate rape, but we'll have to defer to the moron Akin for confirmation) the other day in Japan, or was it Okinawa? In any case, why the big coverup? What is he hiding? Is this just another favor to his big spending contributors? See how stupid this type of drivel is? Probably not......

[nobody]

Obama has stated that he knew the embassy was under attack.

Please try again.

Why didn't he get those poor people help? Why didn't he protect them.

Because he doesn't have a blue suit with a red cape.

That is the type of remarks you always make while calling things lies. A whole lot of military people in the lower ranks believe we could have helped. We have more military in the North America and Middle East area than anywhere. The thing I do not understand is we did not even try. There is no evidence we even tried to try.

There is no evidence we even tried to try to protect them.

If you can give a answer to those real lifesaving questions please do so. Otherwise shut the fuck up you worthless piece of shit. (To all others I apologize for the rudeness)

People died. People died with families that love those Government the victims worked for never did a thing to keep them safe or bring them home.

Yet all of you even the owner of this board permit a South African and his stinger friend treat them like cartoon trash.

You people do not care about people. All you care about is telling each other how smart you are. You are not you are just smart asses.

[Colonel Taylor]

...Yet all of you even the owner of this board permit a South African and his stinger friend treat them like cartoon trash...

...My handle is Dutch, not South African.
...You are dim.

Mitten, Colonel Taylor, nobody/Tertius, Supsalemgr, gongoozler, Reality and some of the other cons here and nationally are working overtime to unpatriotically swallow and promote anything in their desperation to exploit the brave dead for craven partisan ends. Shame.

You are desperate aren't ya. Your leader blows it and you swallow the koolaid that it must be someone else's fault that it's being talked about.

[Colonel Taylor]

You are desperate aren't ya. Your leader blows it and you swallow the koolaid that it must be someone else's fault that it's being talked about.

I BLAME the Islamic cons that pulled the triggers. I'll bet you excuse American murderers because of their difficult childhoods, too.

Our leader, Obama, may have blown it or may not have. You're the one claiming to know for sure. It's clear that Mitten, Colonel Taylor, nobody/Tertius, Supsalemgr, gongoozler, Reality and some of the other cons here and nationally are working overtime to unpatriotically swallow and promote anything in their desperation to exploit the brave dead for craven partisan ends. Shame.

And you just want to cover it up to protect your LEADER. Real Patriotic of U.

[Supsalemgr]

In Vrede's world asking for answers to simple questions is somehow politicizing the death of four brave Americans. That is pretty pathetic.

[Colonel Taylor]

It's called desperate, they have no record for Obama to run on and there's nothing left.

[gongoozler]

In Vrede's world asking for answers to simple questions is somehow politicizing the death of four brave Americans. That is pretty pathetic.

Your posts have not just been questions. It's pretty pathetic of you and Colonel Taylor to lie about it. More exploiting the brave dead for craven partisan ends. Shame.

Exploiting how?

[Stinger]

Obama has stated that he knew the embassy was under attack.

Please try again.

Why didn't he get those poor people help? Why didn't he protect them.

Because he doesn't have a blue suit with a red cape.

That is the type of remarks you always make while calling things lies.

No, it isn't. That's the type of lazy, inaccurate generalization you make when discussing anything. You just say "It seems true," or "That's a lie" without posting a shred of supporting evidence. I only call stuff lies that I've discredited with evidence from credible sources. There's a big difference.

Generalizations and knee-jerk assumptions are the product of a lazy intellect. When I run into those repeatedly, I may make those "type of remarks."

A whole lot of military people in the lower ranks believe we could have helped. We have more military in the North America and Middle East area than anywhere. The thing I do not understand is we did not even try. There is no evidence we even tried to try.

There is no evidence we even tried to try to protect them.

And there's no evidence that we didn't run through some checklists and decide there was nothing we could do. Or that there was nothing we could do before the forces from Tripoli arrived. Or, that they mistakenly thought the fighting was over when the four-hour lull began.

You don't know the facts.


If you can give a answer to those real lifesaving questions please do so. Otherwise shut the fuck up you worthless piece of shit. (To all others I apologize for the rudeness)

My, my. Wasn't turdwhistle one of the ones who complained about foul language? Now we have neo-Turdwhistle telling people to STFU and calling someone a POS. I could understand Turdsheus for calling me that, but a newbie?

No need to apologize for giving us such insight into your character. Maybe you could share some facts with us instead of wandering around posting assumptions and asking "Why didn't anyone try to help them?"

The facts aren't available to us. Without the facts, there is no answer to your question, so why keep wandering around asking the same question over and over?

Until you have something intelligent to say, maybe you should follow your own advice.

People died. People died with families that love those Government the victims worked for never did a thing to keep them safe or bring them home.

Yet all of you even the owner of this board permit a South African and his stinger friend treat them like cartoon trash.

How did that birth certificate thing work out for you, anyway?

And how did that Fast and Furious thing work out for you?

Shouldn't getting your nose rubbed in your ignorance because of sounding off without the facts on previous occasions give you pause this time around?

Nobody's treated the fallen like trash . . . unless you count those who are using them as a political football by going off the deep end by blaming others without having any evidence to support their case. I feel they would best be honored by finding out the truth.

You people do not care about people.

Of course I do. I work in a helping profession, working with disadvantaged every day.

But, unlike you, I also care about the truth and about honesty and about logic and rational thought.

You've thrown all that under the bus.

All you care about is telling each other how smart you are. You are not you are just smart asses.

You could always post support for your arguments. Otherwise, you're just another ass braying in the wingd.

[Stinger]

It's called desperate, they have no record for Obama to run on and there's nothing left.

Economic free fall stopped, depression avoided, unemployment below 8%, 31 straight months of positive private-sector job growth, record corporate profits, over three years of positive GDP growth, stock market fully recovered, housing starts up, housing market up, highest economic confidence rate since 2008, manufacturing on the rise, trade deficit dropped, more jobs added in one year under Obama than in eight years under Bush.

Why doesn't Obama have a record to run on?

[gongoozler]

In Vrede's world asking for answers to simple questions is somehow politicizing the death of four brave Americans. That is pretty pathetic.

Your posts have not just been questions. It's pretty pathetic of you and Colonel Taylor to lie about it. More exploiting the brave dead for craven partisan ends. Shame.

Exploiting how?

In service to Mitten's election hopes. Duh.

How is hoping for something "exploiting" it?

[Stinger]

In service to Mitten's election hopes. Duh.

How is hoping for something "exploiting" it?

By adopting and promoting a single view about a tragedy, deliberately ignoring contrary evidence, and declining to wait until all the facts are available, all because the election is one week away.

What he said.

Using slain Americans as footballs in a political game.

"Here, I'm going to use these dead guys to bash Obama, even though I have about 5% of the facts and don't know what I'm talking about."

Never let a good tragedy go to waste.

[Reality]

Obama blew it and brave Americans died. Will he acknowledge their blood is own his hands? Not likely, no more than his supporters on this forum will do the same.

At least three times a week I engage, one on one face to face, with a die hard dem/lib. The exchange is, as you might guess, one sided both ways. However, when my opponent is confronted with written documentation that proves a point she refuses to read the written word. It's as if she has been told how to think and nothing will change that.

The ridiculous defense of Obama on the Benghazi debacle, by the dems/libs on this forum, is unbelievable and telling of how far we are apart. The United States is becoming the Un United States.

[Reality]

Vred, I guess these four Senators are unpatriotic also.

“This president is either engaged in a massive cover-up deceiving the American people or he is so grossly incompetent that he is not qualified to be the commander in chief of our armed forces.” McCain said. My add. I think the latter is correct.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012 ... ESRC=eb.nl

Note the democratic controlled Senate has launched it's own investigation but doesn't need answers until after the election. Imagine that!

[Bungalow Bill]

Johnny boy is turning out to be quite the sore loser. I don't blame the Republicans
for trying to exploit this issue for electoral gain. That's politics, it ain't always pretty.

[Leo Lyons]

It is good to know Bunghy is such a patriot for disliking an organization that is trying to keep us safe.

What do you fuckwits think you are doing with President Obama?

Get your head out of Broncobama's ass; you're talking funny.
(oh, excuse me, I didn't realize that's common language around your house; didn't mean to interfere with your family matters)

[Leo Lyons]

Who cares? The CIA is just a government version of Murder Incorporated. Good riddance.

The CIA reports to Obama. What the CIA does and does not do is up to Obama.

Right. He uses Muslim mind-control methods to make every single CIA agent do his bidding. And he uses Kenyan time-travel abilities to go back in time and force the CIA to take down countries and install puppets and kill people and stuff.

Wow! To think you've been entrusted with all that knowledge and you're freely blurting it out like a whining brat! What's your security clearance level?

Your dipshit president is not lily-white, dumbass; and I'm not speaking of skin color. You're one gullible dimwit if you think otherwise.

[Leo Lyons]

Then why aren't you waiting before joining the wingnut chorus?

The chorus is sung after the moonbats finish singing each stanza; you moonbats keep adding stanzas.

[Stinger]

Who cares? The CIA is just a government version of Murder Incorporated. Good riddance.

The CIA reports to Obama. What the CIA does and does not do is up to Obama.

Right. He uses Muslim mind-control methods to make every single CIA agent do his bidding. And he uses Kenyan time-travel abilities to go back in time and force the CIA to take down countries and install puppets and kill people and stuff.

Wow! To think you've been entrusted with all that knowledge and you're freely blurting it out like a whining brat! What's your security clearance level?

Your dipshit president is not lily-white, dumbass; and I'm not speaking of skin color. You're one gullible dimwit if you think otherwise.

Nice of you to make such charges without a shred of evidence.

"Your president is not lily-white. He's guilty of something. I don't know what, and I have no proof, but I really, really, really, really hate him, so he is guilty of something. End of discussion."

Dumbass.