Guns, race, religion, terror, wingnut thread

[Vrede too]

... Weberburger was holding a number of Confederate flags. Also, he wore a yarmulke and fake beard ...

Not sure about the one on the left.

[JTA]

http://abc7chicago.com/news/parents-out ... n/1223540/
Parents accuse high school Latin club of racism after depicting slavery in ancient Rome in a skit

The apparent mock slave auction took place during the Illinois Junior Classical Convention at The Westin in Itasca this weekend.

The Kenwood parents call it an open display of racism and are deeply offended.

The Romans didn't give care if you were white, black, or brown, they'd still make you a slave.

Human history is brutal.

You stupid fucks.

[Vrede too]

The headline of your link has changed.

Parents outraged by apparent mock slave auction held by Barrington HS students

And there's no mention of ancient Rome in the article.

... Parents of students at Kenwood Academy on the South Side said they watched an act of racism this past weekend during an event meant to bring students from Chicago and the suburbs together.

They said students from suburban Barrington High School held a mock slave auction in an attempt to show school spirit.

Video of the skit shows a chain around the neck of one student. The Kenwood parents sitting in the audience said they couldn't believe what they saw.

The apparent mock slave auction took place during the Illinois Junior Classical Convention at The Westin in Itasca this weekend....

The Barrington school district and the American/National Junior/Illinois Junior Classical League have apologized.

[JTA]

The headline of your link has changed.

Parents outraged by apparent mock slave auction held by Barrington HS students

And there's no mention of ancient Rome in the article.

... Parents of students at Kenwood Academy on the South Side said they watched an act of racism this past weekend during an event meant to bring students from Chicago and the suburbs together.

They said students from suburban Barrington High School held a mock slave auction in an attempt to show school spirit.

Video of the skit shows a chain around the neck of one student. The Kenwood parents sitting in the audience said they couldn't believe what they saw.

The apparent mock slave auction took place during the Illinois Junior Classical Convention at The Westin in Itasca this weekend....

The Barrington school district and the American/National Junior/Illinois Junior Classical League have apologized.

What absolutely terrible journalism.

Whew, you had me thinking my weekly, mad-just-cuz-I-gotta-go-into-work outrage was misdirected and I'd have to find something else to be outraged against.:

http://wgntv.com/2016/02/29/barrington- ... e-auction/

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/illinoi ... mpetition/

[Vrede too]

Not me, I don't know exactly what to think.

[O Really]

Looks to me like it really was a Roman sort of thing, not from pre-Civil War US. Would've been fun to see the reaction if the class had re-created tossing some Christians to the lions.

[rstrong]

How about an Andrew Jackson themed hike?

[JTA]

Looks to me like it really was a Roman sort of thing, not from pre-Civil War US. Would've been fun to see the reaction if the class had re-created tossing some Christians to the lions.

This would have been better.

[Vrede too]

How about an orgy?

... The Romans didn't give care if you were white, black, or brown, they'd still make you ...

Human history is ...

... fucks.

More seriously, I'm undecided because the reporting is incomplete. Was there an attempt to set the context? Was the "school spirit" section the appropriate convention venue? Was it accurate to Roman slavery or more akin to ours? Why was slavery picked out of all the Roman things, like orgies or Christian mauling , that could be reenacted? Was consideration given to a white suburban school - black urban school dynamic? What do the adviser and student actors say? How did it win if some were offended and who selected the winner? Why the immediate apologies if it was innocuous?

And, what's up with JTA's first link changing so radically in the 40 minutes or less between when he quoted it and when I clicked on it?

Aside: I just learned on PBS that there is no evidence that Christians were ever killed at the Colosseum in Rome, though it did happen elsewhere. Evidently, showing their well known bravery in the face of certain death to Rome's citizens would have been politically unwise.

[Vrede too]

12 Gut-Wrenching Photos Show Aftermath of KKK Rally in Anaheim

Not commenting on the rest since there are differing versions, but -

... Later, some of the Klansmen flee the scene in the vehicle they arrived in — abandoning some of their compatriots in the process....

LOL!!! Their motto is, "Leave some racists behind."

[JTA]

How about an orgy?

... The Romans didn't give care if you were white, black, or brown, they'd still make you ...

Human history is ...

... fucks.

More seriously, I'm undecided because the reporting is incomplete. Was there an attempt to set the context? Was the "school spirit" section the appropriate convention venue? Was it accurate to Roman slavery or more akin to ours? Why was slavery picked out of all the Roman things, like orgies or Christian mauling , that could be reenacted? Was consideration given to a white suburban school - black urban school dynamic? What do the adviser and student actors say? How did it win if some were offended and who selected the winner? Why the immediate apologies if it was innocuous?

And, what's up with JTA's first link changing so radically in the 40 minutes or less between when he quoted it and when I clicked on it?

Aside: I just learned on PBS that there is no evidence that Christians were ever killed at the Colosseum in Rome, though it did happen elsewhere. Evidently, showing their well known bravery in the face of certain death to Rome's citizens would have been politically unwise.

Goddamnit Vrede why can't you just let me be outraged about something without throwing a wrench in it with your reason and logic. Is that too much to ask?

[Vrede too]

Seems like you're outraged about my reason and logic.

You're welcome.

[JTA]

Seems like you're outraged about my reason and logic.

You're welcome.

Is this therefore a win for both of us?

[Vrede too]

Not me, I don't know exactly what to think.

[Vrede too]

The New York Times' first (November 21, 1922) article about Hitler's rise is absolutely stunning

...

He is credibly credited with being actuated by lofty, unselfish patriotism. He probably does not know himself just what he wants to accomplish. The keynote of his propaganda in speaking and writing is violent anti-Semitism. His followers are nicknamed the "Hakenkreuzler." So violent are Hitler's fulminations against the Jews that a number of prominent Jewish citizens are reported to have sought safe asylums in the Bavarian highlands, easily reached by fast motor cars, whence they could hurry their women and children when forewarned of an anti-Semitic St. Bartholomew's night.

But several reliable, well-informed sources confirmed the idea that Hitler's anti-Semitism was not so genuine or violent as it sounded, and that he was merely using anti-Semitic propaganda as a bait to catch masses of followers and keep them aroused, enthusiastic, and in line for the time when his organization is perfected and sufficiently powerful to be employed effectively for political purposes.

A sophisticated politician credited Hitler with peculiar political cleverness for laying emphasis and over-emphasis on anti-Semitism, saying: "You can't expect the masses to understand or appreciate your finer real aims. You must feed the masses with cruder morsels and ideas like anti-Semitism. It would be politically all wrong to tell them the truth about where you really are leading them."

Now, Brown's sources in all likelihood did tell him that Hitler's anti-Semitism was for show. That was a popular opinion during Nazism's early days. But that speaks to how unprepared polite German society was for a movement as sincerely, radically violent as Hitler's to take power.

One other thing: if "violent anti-Semitism" was such a winning issue for Hitler, what does that tell us about the state of public opinion in Bavaria in 1922?

Or, the state of public opinion in America in 2016, some of it leaders and media reporting on them?

[rstrong]

Or, the state of public opinion in America in 2016, some of it leaders and media reporting on them?

Nazis are often referred to as "brownshirts." I'm starting to see people referring to Trump supporters as "clownshirts."

[Vrede too]

More at: Trump clownshirts

[billy.pilgrim]

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/m ... twingwatch


Obama killed fat tony

[Vrede too]

By popular demand the resort will be renamed The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

Thank you for your service to the country, miss (or mister ).

Bingo!!! Though I didn't think of "working for the government".

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/m ... twingwatch

Obama killed fat tony

... murdered by a prostitute working for the government ...

[Vrede too]

... and demand and price are decreasing thanks to arms control and the collapse of the nuclear power industry. "Follow" what "money"?

Nuclear Industry Not Dead

Such speculation does not compensate for the collapse of the nuclear power industry in Japan, Europe and North America and does not equal an increase in uranium demand and price.

The Nuclear Retreat

We coined the term, "Nuclear Retreat" here at Beyond Nuclear to counter the nuclear industry's preposterous "nuclear renaissance" propaganda campaign. You've probably seen "Nuclear Retreat" picked up elsewhere and no wonder - the alleged nuclear revival so far looks more like a lot of running away. On this page we will keep tabs on every latest nuclear retreat as more and more proposed new nuclear programs are canceled.

Xcel mulls early closure for Prairie Island nuclear power plant ...

TVA declares unfinished Bellefonte reactors "surplus" ...

TVA abandons plans for new reactors at Bellefonte ...

Decreasing economies of scale put pressure on remaining Entergy Nuclear merchant reactors ...

Entergy re-affirms FitzPatrick will be closed about a year from now ...

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Court Orders One of Japan’s Two Operating Nuclear Plants to Shut Down