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Wneglia wrote:More Brutality
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Drug Poisoning Deaths per 100,000 People by County

Hover over the map to see statistics for each county in the country.

Hooray for WNC, and for prohibition. :roll:
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Vrede too wrote:Drug Poisoning Deaths per 100,000 People by County

Hover over the map to see statistics for each county in the country.

Hooray for WNC, and for prohibition. :roll:
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U.S. police escape federal charges in 96 percent of rights cases: newspaper

Federal prosecutors declined to bring charges against law enforcement officers in the United States facing allegations of civil rights violations in 96 percent of such cases between 1995 and 2015, according to an investigation by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review newspaper.

The newspaper examined nearly 3 million U.S. Justice Department records related to how the department's 94 U.S. attorney's offices across the country, and in U.S. territories including Puerto Rico, handled civil rights cases against officers.

The data included cases referred to the Justice Department by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other agencies, as well as investigations that prosecutors opened on their own.

Overall, prosecutors turned down 12,703 potential civil rights violations out of 13,233 total complaints. By contrast, prosecutors rejected only about 23 percent of referrals in all other types of criminal cases, the newspaper said....

The U.S. attorney's office in Northern Mississippi, based in Oxford, brought 24 civil rights cases against officers, the most of any federal prosecutor's office. The cases resulted in 20 convictions.

Prosecutors in Western Tennessee, based in Memphis, filed 22 cases, the second-highest number, winning 20.

Eleven districts in the United States saw no civil rights prosecutions brought against any officers out of 240 referrals, the newspaper said.
I get that there are false claims, weak claims and a high hurdle, but does anyone really believe that 96 percent of rights cases shouldn't be decided by a jury?
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Big news break!
Pasco County (FL) cops chased a driver who tried to ram their car. Caught him with stopsticks. Rushed the car and hauled him out - unharmed!
They didn't shoot him!! Good work, guys!

http://wfla.com/2016/03/14/man-charged- ... -vehicles/

Oh wait. He's not a black guy. Nevermind, no news here.

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http://www.wyff4.com/news/alleged-comme ... &showAds=0

Backstory: An officer was killed by some gang banger here in Greenville.

Some lady goes into BK, talks to the cashier about it. Cashier said he had it coming for messing with kids. Incensed lady spreads info on social media calling the BK out on the cashiers comments. Local news media runs a story.

My question: I don't care for cop killers, but am I wrong for being pissed off at the local news for even running this story based on someone's "alleged" comments? Or for that matter, even running this story at all? Am I wrong for seeing this as an overly reactionary response to something that a random person could have just made up to begin with? I mean, maybe the lady had some bad service or something and decided she wanted revenge. It's not out of the question. And even if it did happen according to the lady's story, this shouldn't even be news, right?

One thing I hate is mob justice witch hunts. For shame, WYFF.
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JTA wrote:http://www.wyff4.com/news/alleged-comme ... &showAds=0

Backstory: An officer was killed by some gang banger here in Greenville.

Some lady goes into BK, talks to the cashier about it. Cashier said he had it coming for messing with kids. Incensed lady spreads info on social media calling the BK out on the cashiers comments. Local news media runs a story.

My question: I don't care for cop killers, but am I wrong for being pissed off at the local news for even running this story based on someone's "alleged" comments? Or for that matter, even running this story at all? Am I wrong for seeing this as an overly reactionary response to something that a random person could have just made up to begin with? I mean, maybe the lady had some bad service or something and decided she wanted revenge. It's not out of the question. And even if it did happen according to the lady's story, this shouldn't even be news, right?

One thing I hate is mob justice witch hunts. For shame, WYFF.

remember, what one person says may be attributed to all.

bush used it successfully to start his oil war (or al quaeda recruitment drive)

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Same thing could have happened in some places if the cop killed a kid that "had it coming", but cop dissing is more un-PC. Best not to discuss controversial subjects in a retail environment, businesses don't want to lose even one customer. I don't do it, including because I don't want to know if I'm caring for, say, a bigot. I found out that a young, decent, female co-worker voted for Cruz and it ruined my day.

I've been seeing the elaborate recent cop funerals and tributes, and noting that it doesn't happen when someone dies in construction, healthcare, trucking and other fields.
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Vrede too wrote:
I've been seeing the elaborate recent cop funerals and tributes, and noting that it doesn't happen when someone dies in construction, healthcare, trucking and other fields.
Yeah, I've mentioned that. I think tributes are fine when a cop really gets killed by a criminal, but most cops who are killed are involved in traffic accidents. Including, but not necessarily even in a chase. Lots of people in other jobs get killed in traffic accidents and don't get a parade.

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Graphic Video Shows NYPD Cop Shooting (friendly, tail-wagging) Dog at Point-Blank Range

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Police to review confrontation involving mailman, 5 officers

An unmarked police car does not have any right of way unless it's set up to deploy lights and sirens and they're being used.

Also, I learned in driver's ed decades ago that postal vehicles have absolute priority under the now anachronistic theory that they might carry a letter (edit: or package) that could save thousands. Maybe that's changed, but I'm guessing that no one has gotten around to doing it.

Sad thing is that I'll bet the postal driver, who will get his charges dropped, will be fired for the perfectly legal but arguably unprofessional yelling at the bad cop driver.

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A dog that's wagging it's tail isn't always a friendly dog. There's not enough of the video to identify the dog's intentions; nor was there any sound that might have shown the dog was snarling. Pits are generally owned for protection; why else would women living in a run-down apartment have a pit-bull if it wasn't there to protect them, and the dog was doing what it instinctively knew to do?

Still, lot of questions. :(
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:roll: I looked this time in hopes that a dog owner would be able to tell the difference between a friendly tail wag and approach and a threatening one but not Seth Milner, of course. Almost every other dog owner in the world would notice the excited hop at the door, the friendly posture and the fast rate of tail wagging. Aggressive tail wagging is slow.

As always, it comes down to Seth Milner's extreme and irrational fear of the world.

Pit bulls can be perfectly sweet, that she allowed it out indicates that it was one of these, "protection" is not the only reason to own one and that doesn't mean it was one that attacks, anyhow, and there's nothing in the video or article to indicate that the apartment is "run-down" unless non-Anglo residents is Seth Milner's determinant, which would not be a surprise.
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I looked, and as always, it comes down to Vrede too's being an extreme and irrational asshole.

Look again; she didn't let the dog out; it squeezed out the door. Would you have paused to determine how fast the dog's tail was wagging while it was tearing your silly ass off? Sure, you would . . .
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Scathing report, far more to it than cited by this article:

Nearly 75 Percent of People Shot by Chicago Police are Black, Report Says
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I noticed a story the other day about how a black couple were stopped for pretty much no reason (the car had a paper temporary tag displayed) and were forced to submit to body cavity searches for "suspected drugs" by the Aiken SC police. One of the cops told the black dude "you gonna pay for this one, boy." Alas, no drugs or any other violations were discovered. After pondering this for a day or two I fired off an email to the Aiken SC police informing them of the fact that I'd seen this story and then I wrote ".....all I can say is 'you gonna pay for this one, boy'." I signed it "intestinally yours" and wished them luck.

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Update:
Jury convicts ex-Oklahoma reserve deputy in suspect's death

A former Oklahoma volunteer sheriff's deputy who said he mistook his handgun for his stun gun when he fatally shot an unarmed suspect last year was convicted of second-degree manslaughter on Wednesday.

... Harris, who had run from deputies, was restrained and unarmed when he was shot.

The shooting — which was caught on video — sparked several investigations that, among other things, revealed an internal 2009 memo questioning Bates' qualifications as a volunteer deputy and showed that Bates, a close friend of the sheriff's, had donated thousands of dollars in cash, vehicles and equipment to the agency.

The jury recommended a four-year prison term, the maximum, and Bates was handcuffed and taken into custody pending formal sentencing at a later date....

Following the shooting, an outside consultant hired to review the sheriff's office determined that it suffered from a "system-wide failure of leadership and supervision" and had been in a "perceptible decline" for more than a decade. The reserve deputy program was later suspended.

Weeks after Harris was killed, an internal sheriff's office memo from 2009 was released by an attorney for Harris' family that alleged superiors knew Bates didn't have enough training but pressured others to look the other way because of his relationship with the sheriff and the agency.

A grand jury also investigated the agency and indicted the longtime sheriff, Stanley Glanz, in September, accusing him of failing to release the 2009 memo. He resigned on Nov. 1....
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