The homophobic thread :>

[JTA]

Wait, this scene is way more fitting for this thread:

[Seth Milner]

Horry County, SC - they misspelled it.
I wouldn't want to be caught in the biologically correct bathroom with a lot of those folks.

No worries. They would quickly realize you're gender confused and have pity on you. oops!

[Seth Milner]

Wait, this scene is way more fitting for this thread:

damn.

[Vrede too]

The closet is loud in this one, Luke.

[Vrede too]

US government: North Carolina LGBT law violates civil rights

Won't be long before impotent losers like McCrory and Seth Milner are as pitied and irrelevant as the KKK.

[O Really]

I believe somebody (it might have been me) mentioned early on that this law has civil rights problems outside of just the 14 Amendment issues.

Here, Governor and fellow Republican idiots, this is your ass. Please accept it with our compliments on your ignorant bigotry and epic stupidity.

[Vrede too]

When this is all over and the "fiscally responsible" bigots have been chased back to their filthy closets I hope someone tallies up what it cost the people of NC.

[Seth Milner]

Won't be long before impotent losers like McCrory and Seth Milner are as pitied and irrelevant as the KKK.

Yeah, I'm about as homophobic as they come. You idiot.

[Seth Milner]

When this is all over and the "fiscally responsible" bigots have been chased back to their filthy closets I hope someone tallies up what it cost the people of NC.

You're really obsessed with other people's closets, aren't you? Lukey boy run off and leave you in your closet by yourself?

Heard on the news today that N.C. hasn't felt any astronomical financial setbacks because of the boycotts. I suppose the boycotters weren't as all-fired important as they thought they were, Losers.

[O Really]

Heard on the news today that N.C. hasn't felt any astronomical financial setbacks because of the boycotts. I suppose the boycotters weren't as all-fired important as they thought they were, Losers.

Would be nice to know where you heard it, and maybe the total actual cost to date isn't "astronomical." But it is significant and growing. Loss of one planned convention in Asheville cost about a mil and a half. Maybe the concerts didn't cost all that much if most would-be attendees were local, but things like major sports tournaments and have a significant impact on the area. But over time a loss of convention here, loss of potential employer there, spread out over many areas in the state and before long yes, it could be called "astronomical."

You may have heard of areas once popular with Spring breakers where many business made their year during March. A recent place was Panama City. But somebody on the city council decided that s/he didn't want to put up with the rowdiness and passed some steep anti-drinking ordinances. Didn't work out very well for the businesses... http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Sprin ... 70841.html

Maybe trying to cut down students drinking sounds like a good idea and maybe it is. But how it was done and without regard to all the business impact was a pretty dumb hack of their own noses.

So even if one thinks the principles of HB-2 were sound, it was handled poorly and will be costly to the economy, to the taxpayers and (hopefully) to those who passed it.

[Vrede too]

May have watched the same exact news. The claim "that N.C. hasn't felt any astronomical financial setbacks because of the boycotts," is being made by the GOP defenders of the law. Does Seth Milner know that and, if so, is this "investigative journalist" really so gullible as to swallow the self-serving claims of pols without wondering if it's true?

When this is all over and the "fiscally responsible" bigots have been chased back to their filthy closets I hope someone tallies up what it cost the people of NC.

Anyhow, I didn't just mean the boycott (tourism too?). I'm thinking the cost of the ongoing Gov and Leg's time, the loss of federal funding and the lawsuits, all of which will be flushed down the toilet when the law is repealed or overturned. The bigots and their cheerleaders should pay us back.

[O Really]

. The bigots and their cheerleaders should pay us back.

With their political lives.

[Vrede too]

I doubt Seth Milner has a political life outside of this forum. Even so, he must be disappointed that SC's bathroom bill died. What's a frightened bigot to do when even SC is too liberal for him?

[O Really]

I'm not sure everyone who finds HB-2 acceptable is personally bigoted, although supporting and encouraging further such nonsense certainly helps those who are. The Republican weasels who crafted the bill knew if they could make the argument one of matching genitalia to bathrooom signage that the could automatically get the support of those who aren't willing to read the actual bill, who don't pay much attention and who are Trump's favorite "poorly educated." By doing that, they could keep the attention off the parts that most really would object to - and the parts that made them find it necessary to pass the bill in the dark of night.

As long as you can keep the argument limited to (a) people have a biological gender, either male or female; (b) having separate restrooms for males and females is a good thing; (c) people should be required to use the restroom designated for their gender, regardless of their clothing, then (d) you can make it appear that those opposed to HB-2 must therefore support having men in little girls' rooms.

But of course their intent wasn't that simple, and the effect of the law isn't that focused, and none of that has anything to do with minimum wage. But when was the last time you heard "minimum wage" mentioned in either side of the HB-2 argument?

[billy.pilgrim]

Heard on the news today that N.C. hasn't felt any astronomical financial setbacks because of the boycotts. I suppose the boycotters weren't as all-fired important as they thought they were, Losers.

Would be nice to know where you heard it, and maybe the total actual cost to date isn't "astronomical." But it is significant and growing. Loss of one planned convention in Asheville cost about a mil and a half. Maybe the concerts didn't cost all that much if most would-be attendees were local, but things like major sports tournaments and have a significant impact on the area. But over time a loss of convention here, loss of potential employer there, spread out over many areas in the state and before long yes, it could be called "astronomical."

You may have heard of areas once popular with Spring breakers where many business made their year during March. A recent place was Panama City. But somebody on the city council decided that s/he didn't want to put up with the rowdiness and passed some steep anti-drinking ordinances. Didn't work out very well for the businesses... http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/Sprin ... 70841.html

Maybe trying to cut down students drinking sounds like a good idea and maybe it is. But how it was done and without regard to all the business impact was a pretty dumb hack of their own noses.

So even if one thinks the principles of HB-2 were sound, it was handled poorly and will be costly to the economy, to the taxpayers and (hopefully) to those who passed it.

Panama City may be a bad example, but what a place it was and what a sick place it became. It was the spring break (AEA) place to be in the 60s; I went every year and so did almost every teenager in Alabama.
You are right that businesses did a large percentage of their business then, but there is more to the story and is more likely representative of racism than drunks in the street.
Work puts me on PC Beach at least once a month. About 5 years ago the spring break crowd changed to distinct black or white areas with rednecks in pickup trucks traveling in large groups through the black areas flying huge confederate flags and screaming insults at the African Americans.
I never saw any retaliation. It seems blacks are more understanding than rednecks from Dothan.

Yes the businesses did lose money, but most went along with it - the black problem loomed larger to most than the income loss.

NC may consider their gay problem to be bigger than money.

[O Really]

Thanks for the background - there's always more to the story, isn't there?
I just heard about the Panama City spring break issue back in the winter, in a S. Florida article about the effect of the non-beach drinking laws and complaints of businesses. The article made it sound like the town had stepped on its own dick big time. Guess the article should have been in the opinion section instead of news?

[billy.pilgrim]

Thanks for the background - there's always more to the story, isn't there?
I just heard about the Panama City spring break issue back in the winter, in a S. Florida article about the effect of the non-beach drinking laws and complaints of businesses. The article made it sound like the town had stepped on its own dick big time. Guess the article should have been in the opinion section instead of news?

Remember the guy who held all the wild spring break parties and sold the Girls Gone Wild videos about 20 years back. Lot of drunk girls showing titties and making out with other girls.
Those were the wildest times at PCB. I don't remember that being much of a problem with the city or county, as drunks are not only revenue makers for the hotels, bars and restaurants, but for the city and county as well. Besides, are you going to contest the bogus ticket you got for careless driving - even if you are pissed about them scattering all of your belongings in the ditch after they "smelled" marijuana - are you going to hire a local attorney, stay in a hotel and eat in their restaurants six months later?

They loved it. (I've never uttered this stupid phrase, but will now do so) it was a win win for everyone.

[Seth Milner]

Does Seth Milner know that and, if so, is this "investigative journalist" really so gullible as to swallow the self-serving claims of pols without wondering if it's true?
Does Seth Milner really care? No. If Seth Milner lived in N.C., would he really be concerned with the self-serving claims of the gender-confused crowd or the pols? No. Is Vrede really a two-bit, baiting shill? Yes.

When this is all over and the "fiscally responsible" bigots have been chased back to their filthy closets I hope someone tallies up what it cost the people of NC.

Anyhow, I didn't just mean the boycott (tourism too?). I'm thinking the cost of the ongoing Gov and Leg's time, the loss of federal funding and the lawsuits, all of which will be flushed down the toilet when the law is repealed or overturned. The bigots and their cheerleaders should pay us back.
They don't seem to be overly concerned with your worries and fears, do they? You just nailed the whole silly scene: money.
Gimme, Gimme, Gimme.

[Seth Milner]

I doubt Seth Milner has a political life outside of this forum. Even so, he must be disappointed that SC's bathroom bill died. What's a frightened bigot to do when even SC is too liberal for him?

You're correct. I have no political interests; in or out of this forum. Disappointed? I don't give a rat's ass about bill or his bathroom, in N.C. , S.C., or any other state. I'm enjoying the clown circus from both sides of the bathroom door, your side especially. Whiny bunch of wusses; go piss where you want, fer pete's sake. (oh wait . . . you're pissing here; silly me.)

[Vrede too]

The closet is loud in this one, Luke.

. . . whether dupe, Henny Penny, bigot or bigot cheerleader.