The homophobic thread :>

[O Really]

So let's put this in perspective. Straight people, gays, and lesbians aren't directly affected by the "bathroom" part of HB-2 because they've always generally used the restroom matching their biological gender. Those affected directly are about 700,000 people in the United States, or about 0.2 to 0.3 percent of the population, that are transgender. I don't know if NC has more or fewer than any other state, but if it has its share, it looks like about 25,000 people (out of 10 million), who collectively have no demonstrated propensity for child molestation or sexual assault. There are no published NC cases on transgender transgressions in public restrooms such as those imagined by the Republican fear-mongers. So they're willing to stir up turmoil, trash the state's public image, cost a bunch of money all for no value and over a tiny portion of the population that hasn't been shown to be dangerous.

I guess The Donald represents Republicans pretty well. They all "love the poorly educated"

[Seth Milner]

The closet is loud in this one, Luke.

. . . whether dupe, Henny Penny, bigot or bigot cheerleader.

You ain't particular about your closet partners, are you? Does Luke know?
That's a good way to contract some weird-ass disease. (no pun intended)

[Seth Milner]

So let's put this in perspective. Straight people, gays, and lesbians aren't directly affected by the "bathroom" part of HB-2 because they've always generally used the restroom matching their biological gender.

Who in hell is going to stand outside a restroom door and say who can and who can't go into a frigging bathroom? Are states going to set up a Bathroom Police Department? The only issue I've ever encountered in public restrooms (and rest areas when I'm traveling) is the occasional fruitcake who's attempting to check out what's in my hand when I'm trying to take a leak. What his/her it's gender was, was intelligible because he/she/it was dressed as a male, and we were in the men's room. I think this whole damn mess is a liberal and LGBTQ knee-jerk piss-party. As long as they don't bother me, I don't give a flying frig if they look like Corporal Klinger.

[O Really]

I think this whole damn mess is a liberal and LGBTQ knee-jerk piss-party. As long as they don't bother me, I don't give a flying frig if they look like Corporal Klinger.

"Liberal...." Seriously?? How many "liberals" were there among those who sponsored HB-2 or who voted for it, or who signed it? Should be easy to find out. We'll wait.

[billy.pilgrim]

I think this whole damn mess is a liberal and LGBTQ knee-jerk piss-party. As long as they don't bother me, I don't give a flying frig if they look like Corporal Klinger.

"Liberal...." Seriously?? How many "liberals" were there among those who sponsored HB-2 or who voted for it, or who signed it? Should be easy to find out. We'll wait.

Seems strange that Seth takes a liberal stance and blames liberals for the problem.

Reminds me of the people who thought Colbert was a conservative

[Seth Milner]

I think this whole damn mess is a liberal and LGBTQ knee-jerk piss-party. As long as they don't bother me, I don't give a flying frig if they look like Corporal Klinger.

"Liberal...." Seriously?? How many "liberals" were there among those who sponsored HB-2 or who voted for it, or who signed it? Should be easy to find out. We'll wait.

I was referring to the idiots in Charlotte who conjured up this fiasco; the sex offender, namely.

[Seth Milner]

Seems strange that Seth takes a liberal stance and blames liberals for the problem.
Reminds me of the people who thought Colbert was a conservative

I'm not really taking a liberal stance. I'm taking a "I don't give a **** stance". Not blaming anyone for anything, but I am laughing my ass off at those on both sides of the agenda for the total stupidity of the entire matter.

[O Really]

... but I am laughing my ass off at those on both sides of the agenda for the total stupidity of the entire matter.

It is totally stupid. But you can't avoid the simple fact that the totally stupid matter was not created in Charlotte - which passed an ordinance not unlike a lot in many cities and states in the US, but by the Republicans in the legislature that did everything possible wrong from start to finish. Even if you don't like the Charlotte ordinance - even if you do like state control over local ordinances - even if you think the state over-riding the Charlotte ordinance is a good thing, then still handled it badly. C'mon Seth - it's not ideology. It's stupidity.

[Vrede too]

There comes a point in every discussion where Seth Milner has clearly taken a side when he's not competent to actually debate the facts or the logic. That's when he childishly declares that he doesn't care rather than having the stones (ironic here) to admit he's wrong, every discussion.

[billy.pilgrim]

Seems strange that Seth takes a liberal stance and blames liberals for the problem.
Reminds me of the people who thought Colbert was a conservative

I'm not really taking a liberal stance. I'm taking a "I don't give a **** stance". Not blaming anyone for anything, but I am laughing my ass off at those on both sides of the agenda for the total stupidity of the entire matter.

I believe that is the liberal stance. I don't give a shit which bathroom anyone else uses. I used the men's room, or the anybody room.
It was the cons who are strangling on their panties. The liberals just want to be able to pee.

[Seth Milner]

There comes a point in every discussion where Seth Milner has clearly taken a side when he's not competent to actually debate the facts or the logic. That's when he childishly declares that he doesn't care rather than having the stones (ironic here) to admit he's wrong, every discussion.

What's to debate? Beavers with levers want to piss in the women's rooms and certain groups don't want them to. No logic in that. I'm not a party to either group; the childishness is in your riding the asses of anyone who doesn't agree with what you want.
Everyone's got an agenda these days; i.e. they want others to do as they want them to do:

boycott Chick-fil-a

Christians want everyone to conform to their beliefs.
Atheists want everyone to conform to their non-beliefs.
Liberals want everyone to conform to their liberalism.
Conservatives want everyone to conform to "family values".
Vrede thinks everyone should believe as he does, if you don't, you're childish, stupid, . . .

I didn't take a "side". Because I comment on a subject; pro or con, doesn't mean I support it.

Seth Milner wrote:
... but I am laughing my ass off at those on both sides of the agenda for the total stupidity of the entire matter.

[O Really]

Seth, Seth, why do you do this to yourself? "What's to debate?" It's an unnecessary discriminatory and illegal law, plain and simple. It's not whether you or I care who pees in the next stall or urinal. There was no issue over beavers with levers or whatever peeing wherever they wanted until the Republicans passed HB-2. There was no scandal. There was no controversy. There was no reported problems with people being "unsafe" or even uncomfortable because of who is in the next stall. If you have no interest in laws or civil rights or what happens in NC, fine. But characterizing the argument as "Beavers with levers want to piss in the women's rooms and certain groups don't want them to" is just wrong. It's the law that's wrong, it's not the pissing.

BTW, maybe it's just me, but if there's a topic I have no interest or position in, I usually just don't join the discussion. For example, I have little interest in the "OWS" issues, and my posts are pretty rare on that thread, unless somebody gets off topic. You and JTA can discuss fishing all day and won't likely get a response from me because my favorite fishing hole is the seafood market. But if you and he were discussing whether requiring catch and release in a state park was an infringement on fish or fishermen rights, and I jumped in and said what difference does it make, all fish are going to die eventually, it would seem pretty silly.

It's a censor-free forum - post whatever entertains you, but I can tell you it's not your disagreement over any issue that gets you abused.

[Vrede too]

... it would seem pretty silly....

Ah, the response to so very many of Seth Milner's posts, even sillier when he eventually tries to wussily cover for his debating failures with, "I don't care, after all."

As has been stated many times, Seth Milner sees his mission here as to childishly goad - on topics he doesn't care about or ones that he magically turns out not to care about when he flops. His trolling might be a bit more interesting if he didn't suck so bad at making a case.

[Seth Milner]

There was no issue over beavers with levers or whatever peeing wherever they wanted until the Republicans passed HB-2.

No, you've got it bass-ackwards. There was no issue until the convicted pedophile made it an issue, and Charlotte bent over to kiss his ass, and the state said Charlotte couldn't kiss his ass and they passed a bill stating they reserved the right to kiss ass, but only in the way they deemed fit. Now the Christians and cons are pissed off, the liberals are pissed off, the male beavers and Vrede are pissed off, the entertainment industry is pretending to be pissed off as well as is several other big name companies who want to impress the public.

[Seth Milner]

Ah, the response to so very many of Seth Milner's posts, even sillier when he eventually tries to wussily cover for his debating failures with, "I don't care, after all."

As has been stated many times, Who gives a rat's ass what you state? Seth Milner sees his mission here as to childishly goad - on topics he doesn't care about or ones that he magically turns out not to care about when he flops. His trolling might be a bit more interesting if he didn't suck so bad at making a case.
You've made it very clear you suck much better than anyone else. No magic there.

[Vrede too]

More unread noise from the closet, poor thing.

[Seth Milner]

There was no reported problems with people being "unsafe" or even uncomfortable because of who is in the next stall. If you have no interest in laws or civil rights or what happens in NC, fine.
That's what I've been saying since the beginning! There's not been any issues until the pedophile made it an issue! I wouldn't give a damn if it was an issue in my own state; it's sheer stupidity!

But characterizing the argument as "Beavers with levers want to piss in the women's rooms and certain groups don't want them to" is just wrong. It's the law that's wrong, it's not the pissing.
Passing a law to keep men out of women's restrooms is wrong? :-0?> How is the law wrong? It's common friggin' sense.

BTW, maybe it's just me, but if there's a topic I have no interest or position in, I usually just don't join the discussion.
I don't either, until some nit-wit posts links and petitions that are absolute infantile

It's a censor-free forum - post whatever entertains you, but I can tell you it's not your disagreement over any issue that gets you abused.
To get abused, one has to absorb the writings and take it personally. Fortunately, I have thick skin. Like Mr.B, I don't have a wife to be attacked when cutesy, cutting, and hateful words are said that don't produce the desired effects.

[Vrede too]

I wrote Target Friday saying something like, "Ignore the haters, I'm more likely to shop at Target now."

Sat, April 23, 2016 3:54 pm

Thank you for your support.

At the heart of our company are core values which include Target’s longstanding commitment to create an environment where our team members and guests feel welcome, valued and respected.

Target supports inclusivity and diversity in every aspect of our business and has a long history of supporting the LGBT community through giving, volunteerism and event sponsorship and participation. This change is part of a continuous evaluation of where we are as a company to ensure we are taking steps that balance doing what is right for our business, guests, and for our team.

Thanks for writing.

Sincerely,
Jennifermary

Target.com Guest Services
http://www.target.com

Was somewhat bluster, I always hit the thrift shops and local merchants before considering a big box store. Then, less than 2 weeks later, I just bought baby diapers from a CA friend's registry at trans-friendly Target. FSM works in mysterious ways.

[Seth Milner]

I wrote Target Friday saying something like, "Ignore the haters, I'm more likely to shop at Target now."
I bet they fell on their knees and thanked your FSM . . .

Sat, April 23, 2016 3:54 pm

Thank you for your support.

At the heart of our company are core values which include Target’s longstanding commitment to create an environment where our team members and guests feel welcome, valued and respected.

Target supports inclusivity and diversity in every aspect of our business and has a long history of supporting the LGBT community through giving, volunteerism and event sponsorship and participation. This change is part of a continuous evaluation of where we are as a company to ensure we are taking steps that balance doing what is right for our business, guests, and for our team.

Thanks for writing.

Sincerely,
Jennifermary

Target.com Guest Services
http://www.target.com

Was somewhat bluster,
. . .and a piss load of canned fluff. Like getting a reply to a letter you wrote a politician.
FSM works in mysterious ways.

[Vrede too]

More unread noise from the closet, poor thing.