billy.pilgrim wrote:Everything I read this morning said that he got stuck on the way to the speech where he trash talked the fire Marshall
Except fox. There the three best friends forever said that it is likely that getting stuck in the elevator was in retaliation for the speech (does thumper have future sight?) and that there may be a Hillary connection.
but then they had a commercial and came back to discuss the bernie supporters racing to become thumper fans
The trump security team had taken control of all the elevators and in trump fashion they screwed up and turned his elevator off, but they could have been under Hillary control
... Trump’s security team was given control of the hotel’s elevators during the event, said Perry Sanders Jr., an attorney who co-owns the hotel.
“The party were model guests but security insisted on having manual control of the elevators,” Sanders said.
After the occupants were rescued, technicians for the company that services the elevator determined that the machine became stuck because someone turned the manual key while the car was in motion, Sanders said....
Hilarious.
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... Trump’s security team was given control of the hotel’s elevators during the event, said Perry Sanders Jr., an attorney who co-owns the hotel.
“The party were model guests but security insisted on having manual control of the elevators,” Sanders said.
After the occupants were rescued, technicians for the company that services the elevator determined that the machine became stuck because someone turned the manual key while the car was in motion, Sanders said....
Hilarious.
Thanks, I should have checked.
What amazed me the most was chubby tucker and his bbf this morning reporting that someone from the fire marshal office had done it in retaliation for thumper criticizing the fire marshal in his speech.
But, but , but, the speech was after the elevator incident
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
Republicans are rallying around Trump, calling U.S. Army war hero Humayun Khan and his father "Muslim Brotherhood agents" "jihadis", "double agents for Al-Qaeda" and more.
Sure, McCain for example has criticized Trump. But even this - after everything else - isn't enough to lose McCain's endorsement.
rstrong wrote:... Sure, McCain for example has criticized Trump. But even this - after everything else - isn't enough to lose McCain's endorsement.
So, Trump was right about him not being a hero? I wonder if he's having flashbacks to being a POW.
Hillary is now up by 9 points according to one poll.
Disabled, check. FDR . . . and Reagan .
Catholic, check.
Quaker, check.
Black, check.
Mormon, close-ish.
Woman, likely check. Muslim parents, likely check.
Latino, very possible, 2 ran this time.
Canadian (Ted Cruz) - close-ish
Canadian (Sarah Palin) - close-ish to being a heartbeat away.
Mexican (George Romney) - gave it a shot, but the Quaker beat him.
How long before:
Jew
Gay
Atheist (out of the closet, we may have had some)
Other minorities?
So, how smart is Hillary's team? Clearly, they featured the Khans as a reaction to Trump's Islamophobia and to promote their "Together" message, and that's how I took his amazing speech.
But, were they intentionally provoking his suicidal reaction and did any of them predict that this would become his "Howard Dean Scream" moment?
Assuming Hillary wins, which is not quite certain yet, will she be treated worse, better or the same as Obama has been by the GOP?
On the worse side:
1) She starts off more personally hated and for longer than he was.
2) The case has been made by feminists that sexism is even more pervasive than racism. After all, women got the vote some 50 years after black men did legally and in many places in reality.
On the better side, which I surprising lean towards:
1) There's got to be some point where they get exhausted with perpetual vitriol and obstructionism. Why not now?
2) The GOP will have to change in some way. It's hard to imagine it getting worse, so that leaves better.
3) Their vitriol and obstructionism "until we win" will have failed again. Time for a new strategy.
4) This campaign has divided and damaged the GOP. They will be in chaos for awhile.
5) Bigots can live their lives only dealing with blacks in commercial interactions of some sort, if at all. However they, most of whom are men, gotta interact with their wives, mothers, daughters, sisters and all these relations to their friends. They won't all be able to be as overtly sexist as they were racist.
Am I being too optimistic, are there other factors to consider, what do you think they'll do?
I think there will be a continuation of Hillary-bashing from all the usual suspects, but I think most regular people will give her a fighting chance. Also, I'd hope that people as theoretically smart as the senior senators and house members will realize what they got out of their anti-Obama-everything strategy.
O Really wrote:Also, I'd hope that people as theoretically smart as the senior senators and house members will realize what they got out of their anti-Obama-everything strategy.
Regardless of what it did to the country it got them elected and re-elected. The "big lie", repeated over and over, still works.
The longer one party is in power, the people blame problems on them. The more they forget that things were no different under the other party.
Vrede too wrote:It was actually anti-atheist, which may or may not be a problem for Debbie Wasserman Schultz, but the anti-atheist emails we know about were from Brad Marshall, CFO of the DNC, and Amy Dacey, CEO of the DNC.
... Several of the emails released indicate that the officials, including Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, grew increasingly agitated with Clinton's rival, Bernie Sanders, and his campaign as the primary season advanced, in one instance even floating bringing up Sanders' religion to try and minimize his support.
“It might may [sic] no difference, but for KY and WA can we get someone to ask his belief,” Brad Marshall, CFO of DNC, wrote in an email on May 5, 2016. “Does he believe in God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My southern baptist peeps woudl draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.”
Amy Dacey, CEO of the DNC, subsequently responded “AMEN,” according to the emails....
If I liked her more, I'd feel bad about the tragedy of her being humiliated and shunned on the eve of what should have been her crowning glory. I expect a resignation after the convention if not sooner.
Three top officials at the Democratic National Committee will leave their posts this week amid the controversy over the release of a cache of hacked emails from the committee.
Chief executive Amy Dacey, Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall and Communications Director Luis Miranda will leave the DNC just days after a new leader took the helm....
The release of the emails sparked a firestorm on the eve of the Democratic National Convention, leading Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz to announce her resignation....
Marshall posited that he believes Sanders “is an atheist” and that it could make a difference in the Kentucky and West Virginia primaries. The messages were sent to a group that included Dacey, Miranda and another communications aide, Mark Paustenbach....
Libertarian former 2-term NM Gov. Gary Johnson is close to meeting the 15% threshold for a debate slot with the latest Faux Noise poll, which also has Hillary leading Trump by 10%, showing Johnson with 12%.
Just when you thought the campaign couldn't get any stranger . . .
Aside: The "liberal" NBC poll has Hillary leading Trump by only 9%. :-0?>
I screen my calls so don't get polled, but I hope he makes it. There's a lot that I disagree with the Libertarians on, but I appreciate their commitment to principle and will enjoy watching him blast Trump for not being a con while holding Hillary's feet to the fire without Trump's self-destructive nasty stupidity.
Fwiw, the polls I've seen show Johnson drawing slightly more voters from Hillary, only reducing her large lead by 1% or so.
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