The LEO thread

Generally an unmoderated forum for discussion of pretty much any topic. The focus however, is usually politics.
Post Reply
User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

rstrong wrote:
billy.pilgrim wrote:Yeah, ol Brian is a maroon
Or far worse. Check out his Twitter feed. No wonder Seth quotes him.

The site the "article" comes from shows up on lists of hoax web sites.

Saw that too, but then the right has been trained by fox to believe anything
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 57289
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too »

The "unnamed 40-year-old white man ... headed to a home to kill his family and then himself ... pointed the gun at officers."
"In Charlotte, 43-year-old Keith Scott was" not who the police were after, gave no indication of being homicidal or suicidal and did not point the gun at officers.
Seth Milner is a gullible maroon.
F' ELON
and the
FELON

1312. ETTD

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Seth Milner wrote:WTF? COPS SHOT A WHITE MAN IN MARYLAND AND NOBODY LOOTED WALMART!!
Copyright © 2016 Police, All rights reserved.

Last week black rioters in Charlotte, NC tore the city up to protest the “racism” of a black cop shooting an armed black man. On Monday in Howard County Maryland, cops shot an armed white man and so far there have been no reports of rioting. The WalMart hasn’t been looted and roving gangs of white people aren't beating up random blacks. What the hell is going on? Don’t white people understand how racism and state oppression work?In Charlotte, 43-year-old Keith Scott was shot and killed when he brandished a handgun and refused police commands to drop the weapon. In a similar case in Maryland, an unnamed 40-year-old white man was shot when he brandished a firearm and refused commands to drop the weapon.

WJLA reports that Howard County police were alerted to a man with a gun who may be headed to a home to kill his family and then himself. The officers caught up with the man in his Jeep Cherokee and a 40-minute stand-off began. At various times he put the gun to his head but didn’t pull the trigger. The police have speculated the man was trying to commit “suicide by cop.”

Eventually the man got out of his vehicle and pointed the gun at officers. The police shot the man one time in the torso, dropping him immediately. A special tactical medical response team was on hand and the man was airlifted to a hospital where he is listed in critical condition. This man is white. There is no word on the race of the officer who shot him.

I did some digging but I couldn't find any reports of white protesters gathering in front of the police station demanding justice. Howard County is 75% white, but so far none of this racial majority appears to be outraged. There have been no reports of white gangs beating innocent black people to protest this shooting.


(No indication who the author "I" is)
Riots last night in Charlotte, blocking I85

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s ... 79951.html

If I were to get caught by an angry mob and they started banging on my car and jumping on the roof, I can't say I wouldn't plow through them if I feared for me and my girls safety if things escalated even more:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_ ... nald_Denny

It's time to get my CWP.
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 57289
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too »

JTA wrote:Riots last night

9/25

in Charlotte, blocking I85

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s ... 79951.html

If I were to get caught by an angry mob and they started banging on my car and jumping on the roof, I can't say I wouldn't plow through them if I feared for me and my girls safety if things escalated even more:

Doesn't sound like non-rioter civilians were hurt in Charlotte.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_ ... nald_Denny

1992

It's time to get my CWP.

Because you might be driving during a riot someday?
Last edited by Vrede too on Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
F' ELON
and the
FELON

1312. ETTD

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Vrede too wrote:
JTA wrote:Riots last night

9/25

in Charlotte, blocking I85

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/s ... 79951.html

If I were to get caught by an angry mob and they started banging on my car and jumping on the roof, I can't say I wouldn't plow through them if I feared for me and my girls safety if things escalated even more:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_ ... nald_Denny

1992

It's time to get my CWP.

Doesn't sound like non-rioter civilians were hurt in Charlotte.
Well of course not. And yes, I realize Reginald Denny was assaulted in 1992.

If I'm driving along and an angry mob blocks the road and starts banging on my car, which is an indication of obvious indiscriminate hostility towards me, despite being completely innocent and having nothing to do with what they're angry at, I'd much rather be armed and in the position to defend myself should things escalate as they did in that truck driver's situation when people were rioting back in 1992.

Better safe than sorry.
Last edited by JTA on Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 57289
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too »

JTA wrote:... Better safe than sorry.
What makes you think that rioters won't be armed and how many rounds are you going to carry? That sounds like you're planning on dying and taking a few with you rather than being "safe".
F' ELON
and the
FELON

1312. ETTD

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Vrede too wrote:
JTA wrote:... Better safe than sorry.
What makes you think that rioters won't be armed and how many rounds are you going to carry? That sounds like you're planning on dying and taking a few with you rather than being "safe".
Obviously that's a possibility. Supposing they are armed, and things escalate beyond them just banging on my car to trying to cause me or a loved one bodily harm possibly leading to death, are you arguing it would better to not be armed in that scenario?
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 57289
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too »

I'm saying that non-rioter civilians weren't hurt in Charlotte as far as I know, and that it's rare for non-rioter civilians to be hurt in other riots here. Of course, I can't predict for every scenario but I think in most you would increase the danger to yourself by brandishing, even if you did take a few with you. A riot is not comparable to taking out, say, one or more home invaders. Then, in general you increase the danger to yourself by being armed. Is that worth the remote possibility of driving into a riot?

I'd be more inclined to show my hands and shout, "ER nurse, Black Lives Matter!" Which of us do you think is more likely to survive?

Don't shout, "IT guy," though, anywhere anytime. :P
Last edited by Vrede too on Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:09 pm, edited 2 times in total.
F' ELON
and the
FELON

1312. ETTD

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 57289
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Vrede too »

People Killed by Police in 2016 by Race (per million)
graph

1. Native American
2. Black, near tie with #1
3. Latino, about half #1 & 2
4. White, about one third #1 & 2
5. Asian/Pacific Islander, less than 1/5 #1 & 2
F' ELON
and the
FELON

1312. ETTD

User avatar
rstrong
Captain
Posts: 5889
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:32 am
Location: Winnipeg, MB

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by rstrong »

Vrede too wrote:Because you might be driving during a riot someday?
Among other things.
Image
(Vancouver riot.)

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Vrede too wrote:I'm saying that non-rioter civilians weren't hurt in Charlotte as far as I know, and that it's rare for non-rioter civilians to be hurt in other riots here. Of course, I can't predict for every scenario but I think in most you would increase the danger to yourself by brandishing, even if you did take a few with you. A riot is not comparable to taking out, say, one or more home invaders. Then, in general you increase the danger to yourself by being armed. Is that worth the remote possibility of driving into a riot?

I'd be more inclined to show my hands and shout, "ER nurse, Black Lives Matter!" Which of us do you think is more likely to survive?

Don't shout, "IT guy," though, anywhere anytime. :P
Yeah man you're right and I agree, non violent methods of escape are always preferred as opposed to violent confrontation, if possible. Sometimes they aren't, and violence should be used only when you've no other option.
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

billy.pilgrim wrote:Seth, is this Downtrend crap something you use
http://downtrend.com/about-us
What a bunch of whacks
No wonder you didn't attribute the author
No. I don't recall now where I saw the original article, but I posted the credits (Copyright © 2016 Police, All rights reserved.) When I copied and pasted the article. I don't know for sure who (or what) they are, but there was no credit for the author. If you Google the title, there's several links to it; take your choice of authors and/or websites.

I thought it would make some panties get stuck by my posting it. It did! :lol: rstrong never lets me down!
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

rstrong wrote:
Seth Milner wrote:WTF? COPS SHOT A WHITE MAN IN MARYLAND AND NOBODY LOOTED WALMART!![/size]
WTF? RACIST DOUCHEBAG CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE A WHITE MAN POINTING A GUN AT COPS AND UNARMED BLACK MEN!!
Wanna slow down, get your drawers out of your crack, and try that again? :lol: Duh. How many cops; how many Black men?
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

Vrede too wrote:I'd be more inclined to show my hands and shout, "ER nurse, Black Lives Matter!" Which of us do you think is more likely to survive?
Don't shout, "IT guy," though, anywhere anytime. :P
I didn't know you were Black.
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

Vrede too wrote:The "unnamed 40-year-old white man ... headed to a home to kill his family and then himself ... pointed the gun at officers."
"In Charlotte, 43-year-old Keith Scott was" not who the police were after, gave no indication of being homicidal or suicidal and did not point the gun at officers.
Seth Milner is a gullible maroon.
You bit didn't you?
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

JTA wrote: It's time to get my CWP.
As a concealed carry holder, you can shoot someone stating you 'feared for your life' if they physically attacked your vehicle.
Run over 'em with your car, and your ass is grass.
Vrede too wrote:
JTA wrote:It's time to get my CWP.
Because you might be driving during a riot someday?
You think the folks caught up in that shit had any idea they would be driving during a riot?
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Seth Milner wrote:
JTA wrote: It's time to get my CWP.
As a concealed carry holder, you can shoot someone stating you 'feared for your life' if they physically attacked your vehicle.
Run over 'em with your car, and your ass is grass.
Vrede too wrote:
JTA wrote:It's time to get my CWP.
Because you might be driving during a riot someday?
You think the folks caught up in that shit had any idea they would be driving during a riot?
To be fair, I don't think I'd shoot someone if they physically attacked my vehicle trying to damage my property. If they started trying to pull me out to physically harm me, then Id protect myself as things have escalated to the point where it's justified, imo.
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

rstrong wrote:
billy.pilgrim wrote:Yeah, ol Brian is a maroon
Or far worse. Check out his Twitter feed. No wonder Seth quotes him.
Sorry Duckbutter, never heard of him.

The site the "article" comes from shows up on lists of hoax web sites.
So the article is a hoax. Were the riots a hoax as well? Whoever the author of that piece is makes no difference; this is the point of the article: Read it again and let it sink in; be sure you plug one ear so nothing you read will run out the other side.

....I couldn't find any reports of white protesters gathering in front of the police station demanding justice. Howard County is 75% white, but so far none of this racial majority appears to be outraged. There have been no reports of white gangs beating innocent black people to protest this shooting.

Do the points brought out in the article tell it like it is?
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

Seth Milner
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2334
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:52 pm
Location: Somewhere on Lake Keowee, SC

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by Seth Milner »

JTA wrote:To be fair, I don't think I'd shoot someone if they physically attacked my vehicle trying to damage my property.
That would be a judgment call where YOU would have to decide if your life is in danger, or how far you would allow them to go in damaging your car. Most states' Castle Doctrine covers your vehicle IF you're in it.

If they started trying to pull me out to physically harm me, then Id protect myself as things have escalated to the point where it's justified, imo.
To attempt to drag you out means they got your door open. Rioter, kiss your ass goodbye.
Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive

JTA
Commander
Posts: 3898
Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:04 pm

Re: The LEO thread

Unread post by JTA »

Why people gotta be shitty yo?
You aren't doing it wrong if no one knows what you are doing.

Post Reply