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Vrede too wrote:Yeah, it was a good night for racists/perpetual white victims, xenophobes, neofascists, sexual assaulters and other misogynists, but Supsalemgr always claimed to be a traditional Republican. Is he (and Mr.B?) outing himself as really being in the basket of deplorables, instead?

He's much less talked about, but Pence is scarier than anything Trump has come up with. Sharia law kind of scary. Trump is mostly hot air. I'm not surprised that Mr. B or Soupy would give support to those kinds of people.

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Vrede too wrote:
bannination wrote:... I'm trying to figure out the best time to move some money out of stocks.
November 7.
LOL obviously.... but I think it'll still continue to be ok, or good for a while. After all, even after Trump and gang is in office it'll take a while for their actions to start affecting things. At least, that's my hopes. People are so emotional in the stock market is the largest problem with trying to predict it.

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NH US Senate race (Dem won by 700 votes): 738K total votes, $110 million spent, $149 per vote.

Not that I'm counting on it, but maybe Trump will work to fight the money in politics like he campaigned on. Of course, he'll fail with a GOP Congress.
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bannination wrote:... Pence is scarier than anything Trump has come up with. Sharia law kind of scary....
Assassination insurance. Of course, Trump could get frustrated or bored with real world politics and that pesky Constitution that he detests and abdicate. Plus, he's the oldest first termer ever elected.
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bannination wrote: "I'm not surprised that Mr. B or Soupy would give support to those kinds of people."
As opposed to "those kinds of people" that say "we've got to control guns to protect our children" while championing the murder of an unborn child that's just a few weeks from birth?

As opposed to "those kinds of people" who would continue an asinine program that fines people for not having insurance despite the fact they couldn't afford it to begin with?

As opposed to "those kinds of people" that turn a cold shoulder to those who receive notices that their insurance premiums that they were forced to buy under an "AFFORDABLE CARE ACT" have increased multiple percentages?

Yes bannination, we definitely needed four more years of that.

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bannination wrote: "I'm not surprised that Mr. B or Soupy would give support to those kinds of people."
As opposed to "those kinds of people" that say "we've got to control guns to protect our children" while championing the murder of an unborn child that's just a few weeks from birth?

As opposed to "those kinds of people" who would continue an asinine program that fines people for not having insurance despite the fact they couldn't afford it to begin with?

As opposed to "those kinds of people" that turn a cold shoulder to those who receive notices that their insurance premiums that they were forced to buy under an "AFFORDABLE CARE ACT" have increased multiple percentages?

Yes bannination, we definitely needed four more years of that.
If you couldn't afford the insurance the premium was subsidized. They practically pay you to have insurance. If you paid the fine it's because you outright decline insurance because you're insane. :roll:

As a single person, that makes $20,000 I can get a plan for $329 a YEAR due to subsidies.

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bannination wrote:
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bannination wrote: "I'm not surprised that Mr. B or Soupy would give support to those kinds of people."
"As opposed to "those kinds of people" that say "we've got to control guns to protect our children" while championing the murder of an unborn child that's just a few weeks from birth?"

"If you couldn't afford the insurance the premium was subsidized. They practically pay you to have insurance. If you paid the fine it's because you outright decline insurance because you're insane." :roll:

"As a single person, that makes $20,000 I can get a plan for $329 a YEAR due to subsidies."
OK; you explained Obamacare, now explain "protecting our children".

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It's adorable that Mr.B is swallowing Trump's conversion to being anti-choice and that he still thinks the GOP will do something about it when it hasn't for decades. There's no fool like an old fool.
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Mr.B wrote:... As opposed to "those kinds of people" who would continue an asinine program that fines people for not having insurance despite the fact they couldn't afford it to begin with? ...
If you couldn't afford the insurance the premium was subsidized. They practically pay you to have insurance. If you paid the fine it's because you outright decline insurance because you're insane. :roll:

As a single person, that makes $20,000 I can get a plan for $329 a YEAR due to subsidies.
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bannination wrote:
Mr.B wrote:
bannination wrote: "I'm not surprised that Mr. B or Soupy would give support to those kinds of people."
"As opposed to "those kinds of people" that say "we've got to control guns to protect our children" while championing the murder of an unborn child that's just a few weeks from birth?"

"If you couldn't afford the insurance the premium was subsidized. They practically pay you to have insurance. If you paid the fine it's because you outright decline insurance because you're insane." :roll:

"As a single person, that makes $20,000 I can get a plan for $329 a YEAR due to subsidies."
OK; you explained Obamacare, now explain "protecting our children".
I can't, I'm pro-life, but I also don't believe that laws over a woman's body (or anyone's body for that matter) should be passed either. I'm also pro-gun, I just think there should be much more stricter controls on who can own one, it's not about protecting children it's about protecting everyone. Who's supporting murdering an unborn child that's weeks from birth out of curiosity?

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Mr.B wrote:As opposed to "those kinds of people" that say "we've got to control guns to protect our children"
WHO WOULD THAT BE?

Despite all the "Obama is going to take your guns away" wingnuttery from people like you, HE DIDN'T. Even after the Newtown Massacre, the NRA screaming that he'd finally do it, the most he ever did is ask for the very same background checks that the head of the NRA himself has asked for. Ronald Reagan was demonstrably FAR more pro gun control than Obama.

Yes, Clinton wants background checks to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill. The head of the NRA has called for them too. Yes, she supports an assault weapons ban. So did Ronald Reagan (and Gerald Ford and other prominent Republicans.)

I'm not sure if you just like being utterly dishonest, or if you're honestly deluded enough to actually believe what you write.
Mr.B wrote:while championing the murder of an unborn child that's just a few weeks from birth?
You know that this is very rare, right? Less than 1% of abortions, and done in cases where the mother's life is in danger or where fetal anomaly has been detected?

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That was a trick question, of course. No doubt you oppose abortion where the mother's life is in danger, let alone in cases of rape and incest. That's how you roll.
Mr.B wrote:As opposed to "those kinds of people" that turn a cold shoulder to those who receive notices that their insurance premiums that they were forced to buy under an "AFFORDABLE CARE ACT" have increased multiple percentages?
Another case where I can't decide whether you're trolling or really that deluded.

The ACA's personal mandate emerged from the rightwing conservative Heritage Foundation. You know, the folks backing Ted Cruz. It was the cornerstone of Republican healthcare policy for 15 years, from the Republican alternative to ClintonCare to RomneyCare to the instant Obama adopted it. There's video online of Newt Gingrich explaining to Hillary Clinton why it MUST be done, in the interests of personal responsibility, a free-market alternative to freeloaders forcing others to pay for their emergency room visits.

And BTW, before ACA, before Obama was elected, insurance rates had been skyrocketing for a long time. Even Republicans admitted that something had to be done.... and there was their personal mandate again. But whether you credit Republicans or Democrats for the ACA, no-one claimed that it would stop insurance rates from rising. It would only slow down the rise in rates and cover more people. And it has.

For someone who claims to be Christian, you sure do love bearing false witness.

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Vrede too wrote:GOVERNOR
Roy Cooper 48.97%
Pat McCrory 48.86%
Sweet :thumbup: , McCrory got beat up by a bunch of trannies.
Or not.

Republicans gain governorships, but North Carolina up in the air
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“Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics, and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes, and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids — all while the very rich become much richer. To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic, and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him."

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Trump getting elected isn't really the worst of it. The worst of it is potential Supreme Court selections. But past that, letting Republicans run unfettered in both houses of Congress is a guaranteed disaster. Look what they did in a couple of years in NC. And in Kansas. There's a good chance most civil rights and employment protection laws passed in the last 50 years will be severely watered down. Voter suppression will become legal. Public schools will lose funding and support. Environmental protective regulations will become toothless. Safety-net programs will be cut and/or eliminated. Public land will be privatized and drilled/logged/raped. Ability to sue over harassment and bullying will be weakened if not eliminated. Starting January 21, there'll be new stuff coming out of Congress every week taking apart the standards built over half a century, and already drafted by ALEC. And those "angry blue collar working class people" that voted Trump? They'll get nothing. They've never gotten anything from Republicans, but they keep pulling that R lever expecting a different result. How is that not insane?

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We're gonna have to press the Senate Dems to wield the filibuster vigorously, and Trump to act like a patriotic adult.
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Vrede too wrote:... and Trump to act like a patriotic adult.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one!

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O Really wrote:Trump getting elected isn't really the worst of it. The worst of it is potential Supreme Court selections. But past that, letting Republicans run unfettered in both houses of Congress is a guaranteed disaster. Look what they did in a couple of years in NC. And in Kansas. There's a good chance most civil rights and employment protection laws passed in the last 50 years will be severely watered down. Voter suppression will become legal. Public schools will lose funding and support. Environmental protective regulations will become toothless. Safety-net programs will be cut and/or eliminated. Public land will be privatized and drilled/logged/raped. Ability to sue over harassment and bullying will be weakened if not eliminated. Starting January 21, there'll be new stuff coming out of Congress every week taking apart the standards built over half a century, and already drafted by ALEC. And those "angry blue collar working class people" that voted Trump? They'll get nothing. They've never gotten anything from Republicans, but they keep pulling that R lever expecting a different result. How is that not insane?
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O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote:... and Trump to act like a patriotic adult.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Good one!
I know, it's like hoping that Mr.B/Seth Milner/homerfobe will grow up, but we don't have a choice.
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Vrede too wrote:
O Really wrote:
Vrede too wrote:"... and Trump to act like a patriotic adult."
:lol: :lol: :lol: "Good one!"
"I know, it's like hoping that Mr.B/Seth Milner/homerfobe will grow up, but we don't have a choice."
Ya think maybe you will ever grow up? I doubt it. You do have a choice, you know
Are you still clinging to that "Mr.B/Seth Milner/homerfobe" fantasy? Grow up. (oops, wait, I didn't mean to insult you by insinuating, oh, never mind)

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