Weather in NC

[Vrede too]

but none of them are pre 80s vw beetles. you just let a little air out of the tires, fill the gas tank and throw a 94 lb bag of Portland under the hood - good to go.

I was in the backseat of one that ended up on its side in a snowy median. No one hurt, bystanders righted it, pickup pulled it back to the highway, on our merry and somewhat slower way.

[O Really]

So what is the difference in a radial chain and one for bias-ply?
Yes, I'm only asking out of morbid curiosity. Like I'm ever going to need to know.

[Vrede too]

So what is the difference in a radial chain and one for bias-ply?
Yes, I'm only asking out of morbid curiosity. Like I'm ever going to need to know.

Radial:



Regular:



I don't know why they look so different, you'll have to google that. I also don't know why those smooth radial chain cylinders grip so well, but they do. In the Rockies I eventually just bought 4 extra rims, put studded tires on them, and changed them out seasonally. It cut down on my use of chains drastically.

[billy.pilgrim]

but none of them are pre 80s vw beetles. you just let a little air out of the tires, fill the gas tank and throw a 94 lb bag of Portland under the hood - good to go.

I was in the backseat of one that ended up on its side in a snowy median. No one hurt, bystanders righted it, pickup pulled it back to the highway, on our merry and somewhat slower way.

weight in the front always helped - I always kept at least a hundred lbs under the hood during my Tennessee winters

[billy.pilgrim]

do people still used the tire studs?

[Vrede too]

Could be, makes sense - not my Bug, never looked in trunk, wasn't driving.

[O Really]

Yeah, that "regular" version is what I remember, not so fondly. But I never had to use chains very often anyway. I did always have "snow tires" for winter and generally stayed off un-plowed roads. I can think of some occasions in mostly ice that chains would have come in real handy, though.

[JTA]

Did you guys ever do donuts in cul de sacs and slam your car into snow embankments after a huge snowfall?

[O Really]

Did you guys ever do donuts in cul de sacs and slam your car into snow embankments after a huge snowfall?

Um, no.
But the first winter after I got my drivers license on the first snowfall I was ready to venture out but my dad said "no, you've got to learn to drive in snow first." So he took me to a large parking lot that was mostly empty, and had me drive in the snow, on partly cleared places, and all over. I had to put it into a spin, straighten out, go uphill and down, brake and accelerate. When I thought I was "expert" he took the car down to the bottom of a slope into the side of snowbank by the curb, got out of the car and said "when you've gotten it home safely from here, you can drive in winter." And he left me and walked home. Car was badly stuck, and it took me about a half hour to get it forward-back worked out. The time spent in that parking lot that day paid off many times in the future, though.

[Vrede too]

You never know if a snow embankment is actually ice or is hiding something solid.

do people still used the tire studs?

I haven't bothered here, but in the North and West sure. They're great, almost as good as chains but you don't have to slow down or get out to put them on and off.

[bannination]

Did you guys ever do donuts in cul de sacs and slam your car into snow embankments after a huge snowfall?

I've heard stories about my dad doing such a thing, at least until one of those snow embankments turned out to be a solid chunk of ice..... woops

[Sometime Lefty]

but none of them are pre 80s vw beetles. you just let a little air out of the tires, fill the gas tank and throw a 94 lb bag of Portland under the hood - good to go.

How does putting weight in the front of a rear wheel drive VW make it good to go?

[O Really]

but none of them are pre 80s vw beetles. you just let a little air out of the tires, fill the gas tank and throw a 94 lb bag of Portland under the hood - good to go.

How does putting weight in the front of a rear wheel drive VW make it good to go?

Balance, would be my guess - also more weight on front wheels for steering. I never owned one of those beetles, but I knew people who did. They never got stuck, no matter what.

[Vrede too]

That and less likely to break loose at speed on ice, easy to do with Bugs.

[billy.pilgrim]

correct

weight and balance are good in snow and ice

[O Really]

correct

weight and balance are good in snow and ice

But a plane ticket is better.

[billy.pilgrim]

correct

weight and balance are good in snow and ice

But a plane ticket is better.

All powerful and knowing trump said that he was 45 minutes late because they had to circle Pensacola for 45 minutes due to snow in the area - who knew Jackson Mississippi is part of our area. But more importantly, trump doesn't speak well of travel in a flying machine when they function so poorly with light flurries 200 miles away.

Could his implied support of the superiority of this nazi people's car be more proof of his allegiance to russia?

[Vrede too]

Stumbled on this trivia:

Montana is the only (lower 48) state that doesn't even border a state that has a city of one million. To get to Salt Lake City, you have to drive through hundreds of miles of Idaho. To get to Seattle (or Portland), you also have to drive through Idaho, and to get to Denver, you have to drive across all of Wyoming. And so on. So when you want a city fix, it takes some doing.

[O Really]

The whole state doesn't have a million, does it? These people, along with Idaho, Wyoming, Dakotas, etc. get way more than their share of representation in the Senate. Hell, if you can't raise more than a million people in the whole state you shouldn't get a senator at all.

[Vrede too]

The whole state doesn't have a million, does it?

Barely, 1,042,520 (2016 est.).

These people, along with Idaho,

1,683,140 (2016 est.)

Wyoming, Dakotas, etc. get way more than their share of representation in the Senate.

Yep. Good luck changing that.

Hell, if you can't raise more than a million people in the whole state

Includes VT, AK and DE.

you shouldn't get a senator at all.

1.75 million? But that would include RI, ME, NH and HI, too.

Besides, it's not like FL and NC representation are very good for us.