32 dead - tag can't explain deregulation & terdius is wrong
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32 dead - tag can't explain deregulation & terdius is wrong
could it have to do with the close ties to rmoney - nah - the republicons alway put county ahead of party
love that free market self-regulation. betcha tag ain't never read The Jungle
from Thom Hartmann's blog
the pharmaceutical company that's responsible for the outbreak, Massachusetts-based New England Compounding Company, was cited for numerous violations in 2004 while Mitt Romney was Governor. However, his administration did nothing to punish the company or place more regulations on it. Records show that that between 2003 and 2006 - there were six complaints against the New England Compounding Company, yet the Romney administration did not crack down on the company, and instead signed an agreement allowing the company to regulate itself in the future
It should be noted that New England Compounding Company is a big political donor to both Mitt Romney and Republican Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But as a result of their "self-regulation" order by Romney - 25 Americans are now dead. As an attorney representing the victims argues, "It goes all the way up to Mitt Romney...When the person who is supposed to be in charge of oversight does not believe oversight is necessary, this is what happens." This is why a Romney presidency is so dangerous to America.
The safety of our air, water, food, medicine is in jeopardy thanks to government regulation that Mitt Romney wants to get rid of. We know what happens when we try to let capitalism regulate itself: economics crash and lives are ruined.
and tag keeps crying, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate,
love that free market self-regulation. betcha tag ain't never read The Jungle
from Thom Hartmann's blog
the pharmaceutical company that's responsible for the outbreak, Massachusetts-based New England Compounding Company, was cited for numerous violations in 2004 while Mitt Romney was Governor. However, his administration did nothing to punish the company or place more regulations on it. Records show that that between 2003 and 2006 - there were six complaints against the New England Compounding Company, yet the Romney administration did not crack down on the company, and instead signed an agreement allowing the company to regulate itself in the future
It should be noted that New England Compounding Company is a big political donor to both Mitt Romney and Republican Senator Scott Brown in Massachusetts. But as a result of their "self-regulation" order by Romney - 25 Americans are now dead. As an attorney representing the victims argues, "It goes all the way up to Mitt Romney...When the person who is supposed to be in charge of oversight does not believe oversight is necessary, this is what happens." This is why a Romney presidency is so dangerous to America.
The safety of our air, water, food, medicine is in jeopardy thanks to government regulation that Mitt Romney wants to get rid of. We know what happens when we try to let capitalism regulate itself: economics crash and lives are ruined.
and tag keeps crying, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate,
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
billy.pilgrim wrote:deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate,
deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, dereg.....
Running out of something to do? Too much time on your hands?
Mike is working on taking over Banni's forum toy, and you've taken his former avatar. Have you no shame?
Never mind, forget I asked that.

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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
You're a liar.Leo Lyons wrote:Mike is working on taking over Banni's forum toy ...
You're a liar.Leo Lyons wrote: ..., and you've taken his former avatar.
It's obvious you have none.Leo Lyons wrote: Have you no shame?
You are a liar.Leo Lyons wrote:Never mind, forget I asked that.

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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
Leo Lyons wrote:billy.pilgrim wrote:deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate,
deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, deregulate, dereg.....
Running out of something to do? Too much time on your hands?
Mike is working on taking over Banni's forum toy, and you've taken his former avatar. Have you no shame?
Never mind, forget I asked that.
avatars come an go for most. the exception would be some smart-ass with a badge he found in a cracker-jacks box
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
You have to be smart enough to know the fakes from the real thing; Oops...leaves you out.billy.pilgrim wrote:avatars come an go for most. the exception would be some smart-ass with a badge he found in a cracker-jacks box
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
I'm not saying we should deregulate, but regulation does not guarantee safety. Look at all the outbreaks of Salmonella, Listeria, E Coli, etc. in foods that have occurred despite FDA food regulation and inspection.


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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
Leo Lyons wrote:You have to be smart enough to know the fakes from the real thing; Oops...leaves you out.billy.pilgrim wrote:avatars come an go for most. the exception would be some smart-ass with a badge he found in a cracker-jacks box
oh, I can spot a donut eater when I see one, leo
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
Wneglia wrote:I'm not saying we should deregulate, but regulation does not guarantee safety. Look at all the outbreaks of Salmonella, Listeria, E Coli, etc. in foods that have occurred despite FDA food regulation and inspection.
that's all you people say, deregulate, deregulate
and of course, even with good, competent regulation, there will be mistakes
(I've always wanted to discuss The Jungle with a republicon - it seems as if none of you, since, Teddy, have read it)
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
The FDA has the responsibility not the governor. States have more say in OSHA and EPA enforcement.
That is my understanding.
That is my understanding.
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Re: 32 dead and House waits until after election to investig
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/1 ... 24318.html
New England Compounding Center: FDA Wanted To Close Meningitis-Linked Pharmacy In 2003
The report shows that after several problematic incidents, Food and Drug Administration officials in 2003 suggested that the compounding pharmacy be "prohibited from manufacturing" until it improved its operations. But FDA regulators deferred to their counterparts in Massachusetts, who ultimately reached an agreement with the pharmacy to settle concerns about the quality of its prescription injections.
The congressional report also shows that in 2003 the FDA considered the company a pharmacy.
At a February 2003 meeting between state and federal officials, FDA staff emphasized "the potential for serious public consequences if NECC's compounding practices, in particular those relating to sterile products, are not improved." The agency issued a list of problems uncovered in its inspection to NECC, including a failure to verify if sterile drugs met safety standards.
But the agency decided to let Massachusetts officials take the lead in regulating the company, since pharmacies are typically regulated at the state level. It was decided that "the state would be in a better position to gain compliance or take regulatory action against NECC as necessary," according to a summary of the meeting quoted by investigators.
The FDA recommended the state subject NECC to a consent agreement, which would require the company to pass certain quality tests to continue operating. But congressional investigators say Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy did not take any action until "well over a year later."
__ In October 2004, the board sent a proposed consent agreement to Cadden, which would have included a formal reprimand and a three-year probationary period for the company's registration. The case ended without disciplinary action in 2006, when NECC agreed to a less severe consent decree with the state.
Massachusetts officials indicated Tuesday they are still investigating why NECC escaped the more severe penalty.
New England Compounding Center: FDA Wanted To Close Meningitis-Linked Pharmacy In 2003
The report shows that after several problematic incidents, Food and Drug Administration officials in 2003 suggested that the compounding pharmacy be "prohibited from manufacturing" until it improved its operations. But FDA regulators deferred to their counterparts in Massachusetts, who ultimately reached an agreement with the pharmacy to settle concerns about the quality of its prescription injections.
The congressional report also shows that in 2003 the FDA considered the company a pharmacy.
At a February 2003 meeting between state and federal officials, FDA staff emphasized "the potential for serious public consequences if NECC's compounding practices, in particular those relating to sterile products, are not improved." The agency issued a list of problems uncovered in its inspection to NECC, including a failure to verify if sterile drugs met safety standards.
But the agency decided to let Massachusetts officials take the lead in regulating the company, since pharmacies are typically regulated at the state level. It was decided that "the state would be in a better position to gain compliance or take regulatory action against NECC as necessary," according to a summary of the meeting quoted by investigators.
The FDA recommended the state subject NECC to a consent agreement, which would require the company to pass certain quality tests to continue operating. But congressional investigators say Massachusetts Board of Pharmacy did not take any action until "well over a year later."
__ In October 2004, the board sent a proposed consent agreement to Cadden, which would have included a formal reprimand and a three-year probationary period for the company's registration. The case ended without disciplinary action in 2006, when NECC agreed to a less severe consent decree with the state.
Massachusetts officials indicated Tuesday they are still investigating why NECC escaped the more severe penalty.
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Re: 25 dead and rmoney responsible
Tertius wrote:The FDA has the responsibility not the governor. States have more say in OSHA and EPA enforcement.
That is my understanding.
sorry turd boy but the state and ol mitt believed that this was state terrority
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Says the azzhat who pretended to be ex-DEA.Leo Lyons wrote:You have to be smart enough to know the fakes from the real thing; Oops...leaves you out.billy.pilgrim wrote:avatars come an go for most. the exception would be some smart-ass with a badge he found in a cracker-jacks box
Good thing people were smart enough to know the fake from the real thing.
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Stinger wrote:Says the azzhat who pretended to be ex-DEA.Leo Lyons wrote:You have to be smart enough to know the fakes from the real thing; Oops...leaves you out.billy.pilgrim wrote:avatars come an go for most. the exception would be some smart-ass with a badge he found in a cracker-jacks box
Good thing people were smart enough to know the fake from the real thing.
he does act like a true to life donut eater
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”