Gun Legislation

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Tomorrow's News

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NRA - Sunday with Lubach

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Another good ol' guy with a gun ... just wants to pertek his fambly...
https://nypost.com/2018/01/05/man-confe ... -driveway/

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Right-to-carry laws lead to more violent crime: Isn’t that a huge surprise?
The NRA wants everyone to buy guns and carry them — but research shows that violence rises when people pack heat

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I'm shocked.
Everyone knows that a person who owns a car is less likely to drive it in traveling, and that a person carrying around a fifth is less likely to be a drinker, and a person with a passport and a pile of cash is less likely to be a flight risk. Why wouldn't the same logic work for guns?

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I've been seeing that there have been 11 school shootings this year, could be 15. This list is from a blog post, not verified by me:

Jan. 23: Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky
A 16-year-old boy opened fired on campus, killing two and injuring 18 others.

Jan. 22: Italy High School in Italy, Texas
A 16-year-old boy shot and injured a 15-year-old girl with a semi-automatic handgun in the school cafeteria. He was taken into custody after the incident.

Jan. 22: NET Charter High School in New Orleans, Louisiana
An unidentified person pulled up in a truck and shot into a group of students standing outside the school during lunch time. One teenager was sent to the hospital with a superficial injury.

Jan. 20: Wake Forest University in Winston-Salem, North Carolina
A North Carolina football player from Winston-Salem State University was shot to death while at an event at Wake Forest University.

Jan. 15: Wiley College in Marshall, Texas
Police believe two suspects in a car exchanged gunfire with a person in a dormitory parking lot. No injuries were reported, but a bullet entered a dorm room during the incident.

Jan. 10: Grayson College in Denison, Texas
A criminal justice student fired a bullet through a wall after mistaking the firearm for training gun. No one was injured.

Jan. 10: California State University, San Bernardino in San Bernardino
A gun was fired on campus, however, no injuries reported.

Jan. 9: Coronado Elementary School in Sierra Vista, Arizona
A 14-year-old boy was found dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound in the school bathroom.

Jan. 6: School bus in Forest City, Iowa
A 32-year-old man was arrested after firing a pellet gun into a school bus. No children were injured, but a window on the bus was shattered.

Jan. 4: New Start High School in Burien, Washington
Shots were fired from outside the school into the school's administration office, but no one was injured.

Jan. 3: East Olive Elementary School in St. John's Michigan
A 31-year-old man shot and killed himself in the school parking lot after hours of negotiation with police. The man called authorities, said he was suicidal and had a handgun.

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I would like to think that if the Dems get Congressional majorities and a President, they'll grow some backbone and pass some fundamental improvements, but I find that increasingly unlikely as practically no one is making an issue of gun laws anymore. Everytime a politician brings it up in any manner, they're just shouted down or ridiculed sufficiently by the NRA-fundies to the point that it appears trivial to the public - even if that same public actually supports the idea. I've given up on any legislative solution, and think the only solution will be social/cultural, like what happened to tobacco. Legal restrictions helped, but mostly it was the idea of smoking becoming socially unacceptable and smokers banished to alleys that cut the percentage of adult smokers down from around 50% to just over 10%. Same with the old "2 martini lunch." It's still legal to have a beer or wine at lunch during the business day, but when was the last time you saw anybody actually doing it? Or drunk driving - sure, it's illegal, and they cut down the level for "DWI" down to .8 from .10, but it was social change that made the difference. Remember hearing Sinatra "So, make it one for my baby and one more for the road"? Heard any new songs with references to heading out onto the road at 3 in the morning after closing the bar?

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I'm offering my "thoughts and prayers" for stronger gun laws, but I recognize that with the constant tragedies it will always be "too soon for politics".

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Last night, Trump spoke for eighty minutes. Zero of them were dedicated to gun violence prevention. Despite the tens of thousands of Americans who died from gun violence during his first year in office, Trump's first State of the Union made it clear that gun violence prevention is not a priority -- or even a consideration -- for his administration.

At the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence (CSGV), we know 38,000 gun-related deaths in a single year is unacceptable. We know gun violence is an area which requires attention....

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MYTH: Promoting gun violence prevention a purely political maneuver by congressional Democrats to take away everyone's guns.
FACT: Congressional Democrats don’t know how to devise political maneuvers.

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MYTH: Promoting gun violence prevention a purely political maneuver by congressional Democrats to take away everyone's guns.
FACT: Congressional Democrats don’t know how to devise political maneuvers.

At least not ones that don't involve shooting themselves in the foot.

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Get your Virginia concealed carry permit online. Fill out the "test" and the application. Good in 28 states. Non-residents eligible to apply.
I. Have. No. Words.

https://usconcealedonline.com/?utm_sour ... =137340222

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Conversation
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Just spoke to Governor Rick Scott. We are working closely with law enforcement on the terrible Florida school shooting.
2:55 PM · Feb 14, 2018

What the hell does "working closely" supposed to mean?

They had a phone call. That covers "working closely" and "working hard".

I'm sure 'thoughts and prayers' were offered.

Kimmel Writer Calls Out GOP In Blistering Replies To 'Prayers' After Florida Shooting

Lawmakers sending “thoughts and prayers” in the wake of Wednesday’s deadly school shooting in Parkland, Florida, are getting slammed for their financial ties to the gun lobby.

Bess Kalb, a writer for “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” is responding to each lawmaker tweeting condolences over the murders by listing how much they’ve taken from the National Rifle Association, which has consistently fought any move to tighten gun control laws.

Here are some of those tweets and Kalb’s replies:

Marco Rubio‏ (R-FL)
Verified account
@marcorubio

Just spoke to Broward School Superintendent. Today is that terrible day you pray never comes.

Do something you spineless coward. How dare you continue to let this happen when you know there are simple common sense fixes that would detour this from the epidemic it has become.

michele collins
‏@michele5411

How much $ have you accepted from the NRA, Marco?

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

$3,303,355

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Senator Thom Tillis‏ (R-NC) Verified account
@SenThomTillis

Tragic news out of Florida. Please keep the victims, their families, first responders and the community in your thoughts and prayers.

Bess Kalb
@bessbell

$4,418,012.00
Four million four hundred eighteen thousand and twelve dollars from the NRA.

... She also replied to Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel:

Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman

My heart breaks for all the families, teachers, and students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Praying for all affected by the tragic shooting in Florida today.

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

In the 2015-2016 election cycle alone, GOP candidates took $17,385,437 from the NRA.

This is NOT counting the $21 million given to President Trump.

Before she started replying to tweets she also shared a few other choice words about lawmakers collecting cash from the gun lobby:

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

God have mercy on your NRA-kept souls:

She omitted:
John McCain
$7,740,521

Richard Burr (R-NC)
$6,986,620

Roy Blunt
$4,551,146

Thom Tillis (R-NC)
$4,418,012

Cory Gardner
$3,879,064

Marco Rubio (R-FL)
$3,303,355

Joni Ernst
$3,124,273

Rob Portman
$3,061,941

Todd Young
$2,896,732

Bill Cassidy
$2,861,047


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... ators.html (op-ed)

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I sometimes watch fox so you don't have to


Rep. Eric Swalwell on fox just said,

"We have to hope and pray that this stuff stops."

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Conversation
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Just spoke to Governor Rick Scott. We are working closely with law enforcement on the terrible Florida school shooting.
2:55 PM · Feb 14, 2018

What the hell does "working closely" supposed to mean?

They had a phone call. That covers "working closely" and "working hard".

I'm sure 'thoughts and prayers' were offered.

Kimmel Writer Calls Out GOP In Blistering Replies To 'Prayers' After Florida Shooting

Lawmakers sending “thoughts and prayers” in the wake of Wednesday’s deadly school shooting in Parkland, Florida, are getting slammed for their financial ties to the gun lobby.

Bess Kalb, a writer for “Jimmy Kimmel Live,” is responding to each lawmaker tweeting condolences over the murders by listing how much they’ve taken from the National Rifle Association, which has consistently fought any move to tighten gun control laws.

Here are some of those tweets and Kalb’s replies:

Marco Rubio‏ (R-FL)
Verified account
@marcorubio

Just spoke to Broward School Superintendent. Today is that terrible day you pray never comes.

Do something you spineless coward. How dare you continue to let this happen when you know there are simple common sense fixes that would detour this from the epidemic it has become.

michele collins
‏@michele5411

How much $ have you accepted from the NRA, Marco?

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

$3,303,355

...

Senator Thom Tillis‏ (R-NC) Verified account
@SenThomTillis

Tragic news out of Florida. Please keep the victims, their families, first responders and the community in your thoughts and prayers.

Bess Kalb
@bessbell

$4,418,012.00
Four million four hundred eighteen thousand and twelve dollars from the NRA.

... She also replied to Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel:

Ronna McDaniel
@GOPChairwoman

My heart breaks for all the families, teachers, and students of Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. Praying for all affected by the tragic shooting in Florida today.

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

In the 2015-2016 election cycle alone, GOP candidates took $17,385,437 from the NRA.

This is NOT counting the $21 million given to President Trump.

Before she started replying to tweets she also shared a few other choice words about lawmakers collecting cash from the gun lobby:

Bess Kalb‏ Verified account
@bessbell

God have mercy on your NRA-kept souls:

She omitted:
John McCain
$7,740,521

Richard Burr (R-NC)
$6,986,620

Roy Blunt
$4,551,146

Thom Tillis (R-NC)
$4,418,012

Cory Gardner
$3,879,064

Marco Rubio (R-FL)
$3,303,355

Joni Ernst
$3,124,273

Rob Portman
$3,061,941

Todd Young
$2,896,732

Bill Cassidy
$2,861,047


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... ators.html (op-ed)

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Why would anyone leave mccain off a list of assholes?

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I sometimes watch fox so you don't have to

Thank you for your service.

Rep. Eric Swalwell on fox just said,

D-CA15, eastern Alameda County (suburban Bay Area).

"We have to hope and pray that this stuff stops."

Eric Swalwell: Gun Violence Prevention


Rep. Swalwell at House Democrats' sit-in for gun violence legislation

Why would anyone leave mccain off a list of assholes?

Idk, but I'm guessing that it was just a glitch given that she re-posted his pic and the article that lists him as #1. It would be really dumb to do it for some McCain-protecting reason while also posting the McCain condemnation.

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I sometimes watch fox so you don't have to

Thank you for your service.

Rep. Eric Swalwell on fox just said,

D-CA15, eastern Alameda County (suburban Bay Area).

"We have to hope and pray that this stuff stops."

Eric Swalwell: Gun Violence Prevention


Rep. Swalwell at House Democrats' sit-in for gun violence legislation

Why would anyone leave mccain off a list of assholes?

Idk, but I'm guessing that it was just a glitch given that she re-posted his pic and the article that lists him as #1. It would be really dumb to do it for some McCain-protecting reason while also posting the McCain condemnation.

Maybe she felt bad pointing at him because of his cancer, but wasn't he the one who explained his recent vote by saying, why should other people have insurance, look at me, I've good the best health care in the world and it can't save me.

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Florida school shooting: Many dead, many more injured.

Whenever a tragedy befalls our country, I like to take a stroll to certain segments of the web to gain some insights into how others assess the situation before additional information has been revealed.

First reaction: He's a Democrat! He's a member of antifa! A DACA recipient! Etc. Despite most if not all of these not being case at all.

Anyway, what I'm getting at is it's very telling when someone's very first reaction is to scour the web for "proof" that's only found on very obviously fake websites, immediately taking this info as fact because it confirms what someone wants to be real.

I reckon we're pretty screwed.

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... He's a Democrat!

I'll bet he's not even registered.

He's a member of antifa!

Nope, but we do know he's an ammosexual former JROTC.

A DACA recipient! ...

White American.

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It's been a few dozen massacres since this was last posted...